**DU just doesn't get it:** SNL appearance a WIN/WIN for McCain campaign

[Bippity Boo]

I am amazed by the media savvylessness of the reactions to Palin's SNL appearance on this board. PALIN REQUESTED TO BE ON THE SHOW. Her campaign would not have done this if they saw it as a potentially dangerous situation. And it wasn't. It was a win/win situation.

If SNL had viciously attacked Palin (which was unlikely given their history of treating walk-on celebrities with kid gloves), they would have played the "poor victim Sarah" card, and used the appearance to prove that the "Eastern Media Elites" are out to get her.

The narrative of this appearance was: Brave Sarah walking into the Den of the Media Elites that ridiculed her and showing she doesn't give a damn what they say about her. If she had reacted with anger, she would have lost, but she smiled and winked and got out precisely the message that her campaign wanted. Did anyone else notice that the entire opening skit took place OFF STAGE, where the audience could not boo her, protecting her from the only possible unpredictable element in this little farce. For god's sake, she had McCain donor Lorne Michaels practically holding her hand, protecting her through the entire opening sketch.

On every news program for at least the next 24 hours they will be playing those clips and celebrating what a good sport Palin was and how she played it cool. This was a media coup for them. SNL has been played by the McCain campaign and anyone who thinks this made Palin look bad is deluding themselves.

[Make7]

1. This is certain to cost us the election.... ( n/t )

[Bippity Boo]

2. I'm not making any claims that the election is lost.

This is not the end of the world, but anyone who sees the SNL appearance as a stinging rebuke to Sarah Palin has never seen a Friar's Club Roast.

[Trajan]

41. DON RICKLES FOR PRESIDENT !

Er ... I mean ... Joey Bishop ....

Or how about : Courtney Love ?

Cmon ....

[Sidney J Mussburger]

56. I knew it

an unfunny performance on any stage with retarded female Christ reborn, will cost us the election. It happens everytime. Not. It's a weird senerio though.

One of these days we'll figure out how to stop these Fascist members of the opposing party to represent 'Real Americans'

[VolcanoJen]

3. I am very concerned!

[NYC_SKP]

5. That poor puppy...

Awwwwww, come here little guy, it's ok, you didn't do anything wrong....yes, that's it...good dog!

[thunder rising]

6. Me too, very very concerned (cute puppy pic)

[Monk06]

43. It's not my fault. I just learned to eat solid food a week ago. WTF do I know.

[madaboutharry]

79. Is this your dog VolcanoJen?

I love it, its so adorable. That face!

[Arkana]

88. I'm just drowning in concern here.

Fucking trolls.

[951-Riverside]

4. Is this SNL appearance changes people's minds in spite of this country's predicament....

We're screwed

[NYC_SKP]

7. Just another distraction, the last few days it was Joe Plumber...what's next?

Meantime, 100,000 folks at Obama rally, 75,000 in a different city later the same day, these go unreported.

what will it be next?

[VolcanoJen]

9. I mean, really

Good gawd. It's infuriating, isn't it? Palin's SNL Stunt was just another Epic Fail from The Shittiest Campaign Of All Time. And yet there are those here who would invent some kind of imaginary backlash.

:wtf:

[Bippity Boo]

13. the Obama rallies were unreported, this Palin appearance will be toast of the news

that is not an "epic fail" for their political campaign. that is McCain controlling the media message and taking the heat off of his campaign, taking the spotlight away from Obama. this is not good for us.

Again, I am not playing Chicken Little here. I don't know the precise effect this will have, obviously. But it is not some sort of rebel blow to the face of Palin's media image. It plays into the McCain camp's game plan, which is why they put her on there in the first place.

[VolcanoJen]

18. Who needs some kind of "rebel blow" to the face of her media image?

Please. Her image is a fail. If there's one real person you could point to, one real event, that is driving McCain's numbers south, it's Sarah Palin. And this SNL stunt doesn't help her one damned bit.

If anything, the media will replay "The Palin Rap" over and over again. You actually think that helps her?

[Bippity Boo]

21. Two words: "Rappin' Ronnie."

Rappin' Ronnie didn't hurt Ronald Reagan's image. They call these people "teflon" for a reason. The bigger an amoral psychopath you are the less you care what the media says about you and the harder you are to satirize with any really damaging effect.

[VolcanoJen]

31. With all due respect, you're nuts.

Sarah Palin isn't "teflon." She's awful. Her approval ratings plummet with each new poll. You have no factual basis with which to claim that somehow, an epic backlash from her "treatment" in the SNL appearance to which she volunteered will somehow hurt Obama.

[Bippity Boo]

35. There will be no backlash.

She simply went there and looked good in front of a camera, which has been her job ever since she was a beauty contestant and TV sports announcer. Mission accomplished.

[VolcanoJen]

38. So you're conceding the point you tried to make in your OP?

What a weird, weird thing to be worried about.

You should be troubled by McCain/Palin's increasing negativity. The whipping-up of the base. The charges of Anti-Americanism.

But some stupid appearance on SNL? Get real.

[Jennicut]

80. That is bs. I watched CNN a lot yesterday and his rally was mentioned 3 times at least.

This "his rally was not mentioned" is not real. They reported it on CNN on the Battlegrounds show with John King. I hate the MSM as much as anyone but to say no media reported on the rally is a lie.

[OmahaBlueDog]

98. What's next is "That $150M sure looks funny to me"

The inference will be that he received money from all kinds of unsavory sources. One particular unsavory contributor will be found (I have no idea who -- this is just the tactic), and this contributor's name will be shouted from the rooftops.

Obama needs to keep playing high-road politics, and making appearances in battleground states in front of huge crowds. He also needs to advertise them to death. However, our "down-ticket talkers" (up to, and including Joe Biden) need to more forthrightly discuss:

AIP -- Why doesn't Sarah Failin' love America?
Charles Keating- How can McSame, a man partly responsible for the last huge banking crisis in America, possibly be expected to fix this one?
David Ifshin - Oh my goodness, John McSame has been pals with some people who didn't like America much either, hasn't he?
One House/One Spouse -- Wasn't it Bob Dole who said "character counts"? Let's discuss Mr. McSame's character: his 1st marriage ending, his gaming, his temperment

...there's more, but you get the picture. Bottom line -- we need to put them back on defense.

[TooRaLoo]

8. Oh, please.

She looked like a very embarrassed cardboard cutout. I think she's also embarrassed a lot of her voters. Not that it will change their vote, but the "base" will be disappointed by this.

This was no media coup.

Add to that, it's a matter of perception and personal opinion. I think people "get" their own impressions of Palin's appearance just fine. :eyes:

[Bippity Boo]

10. To be clear, I find her completely repellent and uncharismatic...

Yet if the media can champion her debate performance as doing a good job, they will be championing this as well. Her handlers know how to play the expectations game. People tune in looking to see Palin get mocked by SNL, and get this lightweight puff pastry, so she comes out looking tough.

[TooRaLoo]

12. I don't think it will have that effect, though.

People will think she looked like she gave in. And then she just sat there while she got made fun of.

Most voters will not be informed enough to realize she wanted to be there. Even if they do know, it was a very awkward, lame appearance.

[VolcanoJen]

14. Except that her handlers don't know shit.

I mean, c'mon now. Sarah Palin has been an Epic Fail since the day after her speech at the RNC. It's been fail after fail after fail. It's been entertaining to watch. But I get a little irritated when someone pops up on DU telling us "we don't 'get it'"

We get it totally. We're laughing. And we really don't feel like a bunch of predictable whining from the Palin Camp is going to buy John McCain six points in the polls or something.

[silverojo]

20. Sorry, but you don't get it

You get the HUMOR (as all of us do), but most people will come away with the impression that Sarah Palin has a great sense of humor about herself, and that makes her more likeable.

That is never good for the opposing candidate. And yes, people really are that fucking shallow....

[VolcanoJen]

34. With all due respect, that's just plain nutty.

Nobody gives a crap about Sarah Palin's f'n feelings. It shows in every poll. Her approval ratings have plummeted. This will be seen by most people as a silly stunt and any kind of whining about something to which a candidate volunteered will be met with a massive yawn by the American people.

I'm getting bored with the hand-wringers, I really am. There's plenty to be concerned about as we head to the polls, but this isn't one of those things. Please.

[H2O Man]

82. Seriously.

It has gone to pathetic to worse. But that's pretty darned good, in a few people's opinion.

[opihimoimoi]

11. WHO CARES???...the Game is OVER....McLame is TOAST

[Bippity Boo]

16. Obama has repeatedly said this can still be lost

There is massive GOP vote supression going on. I can't see how anyone can claim this election is won. The right wing is playing every dirty trick at their disposal. THEY BUILT THE VOTING MACHINES, for chrissakes.

[regnaD kciN]

50. Unfortunately, you're right...

I don't think anyone can look at the polls today vis-a-vis where they were last Tuesday and conclude that "it's over and we've won."

Yes, I think it was reasonable to expect a tightening of the race before Election Day. I don't think it was reasonable to expect it to come immediately after a debate where the consensus opinion was that "Obama won" and quite easily. I was actually expecting his poll lead to increase a bit in the wake of the debate, and only start narrowing during the final week or two. Instead, we've had a major tightening of the race at the very time Obama's lead should have been increasing...and for no discernable cause.

It's not over because such narrowing in tracking polls will likely start manifesting itself in upcoming swing-state polling as well. Currently, Obama has several paths to victory given the apparently solid lead he has in the Kerry states plus NM/IA; he has only to win one of a number of swing states (Colorado, Ohio, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, or Florida). However, in some of those, his current lead is narrow enough that a tightening of the national polls will likely flip them to McCain (it's almost certain to happen in North Carolina, Ohio, and Missouri). That leaves Virginia, Florida, and Colorado -- two out of the three of them with Republicans supervising the vote and a history of voter suppression.

Don't get me wrong -- at the moment, at least, we still have a lead beyond the margin of error. But the Obama campaign is very worried about complacency, and (it would appear) for good reason. We really can't afford to get in another 2000/2004 situation, where the only way to win lies through a state where the deck is stacked against us.

[OmahaBlueDog]

100. It ain't over until the votes are counted.

[silverojo]

15. Finally, somebody gets it!

The polls began tightening when McSame was at the charity dinner, showing what a "wonderful" guy with a "great sense of humor" he is. It blotted out the image of him with his tongue hanging out at the end of the 3rd debate.

This SNL appearance will make the average idiot--I mean, "independent"--voter think Sarah's got a wonderful sense of humor about herself. And, being as shallow as people are, this will help the McCain campaign.

Don't think so? Remember how Bill Clinton's appearance playing sax on Arsenio Hall's show won people over?

People here need to listen to Obama's own words, and quit being so cocky. This election will be a fight to the finish, and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

[TooRaLoo]

25. Two things -

1. Clinton playing a sax, very well, I might add, does not in any way compare to Palin sitting there getting laughed at in a place where she seemed very uncomfortable.

2. Noting her awkward "performance" is not akin at all to being cocky that an Obama win is eminent.

[poverlay]

17. Oh ye of little faith. Obama has countered every lame, transparent attempt by mclame to overcome

him with transcendent bad-assery. This is NOTHING. No Obama voter is going to be swayed by a SNL appearance. The "American Public" will have forgotten all about this by the time the election rolls around. I want the media to fawn all over Mcsaggypaleballs for a bit. Right before the election they will be annoyed, swing the other way and start tearing into them so as to make up for lost time. That's how they roll. They've got to keep the suspense up so they can sell magazines.

[silverojo]

24. It's not "Obama voters" we're worried about

It's SWING voters. The idiots who are too stupid to side in with one candidate or another, they're the ones who decide elections.

And many of them are just shitheaded enough to think this SNL business is cute. :mad:

[Bippity Boo]

26. Exactly... elections are about images and illogical appeals to the unconscious as much as facts

So many voters are voting based on personality and emotion rather than facts. This is why the "person I'd like to have a beer with" factor is so prevalent.

[VolcanoJen]

36. Wake up. This is not a "Person I'd Like To Have A Beer With" election.

Are you paying any attention? Like, at all???

[Bippity Boo]

39. every election is that

That is why the media have focussed so much on how angry McCain looks. When he looks angry, he looks unlikeable. It's not about facts, it's about image. His image is old and bitter and unlikable, so Obama has actually had a chance for a change with our shallow electorate, because he is younger and more handsome.

[VolcanoJen]

42. So you think Obama has a chance because he's younger and handsome?

Really????

You haven't been paying one bit of attention, have you? This particular election actually has been, to the surprise of most of us here at DU, about facts and ideas.

If you can't see that, then the only conclusion I can draw here is that you really suck at political punditry and Zeitgeists.

[Bippity Boo]

44. famous Jack Kennedy / Richard Nixon debate

Nixon lost because he looked old and sweaty and Kennedy looked young and appealing. That's the way it is. We are not living in a meritocracy, we are living in a high school level social environment where the cheerleaders like Palin are still on top.

[VolcanoJen]

46. Oh gawd

You're pointing back to a debate that occurred FORTY EIGHT YEARS AGO as evidence to support your preposterous argument? Do you recognize that many of us (including me) were not even born when that moment occurred? Do you believe we are somehow frozen in our perceptions and that absolutely nothing has changed since Nineteen Freaking Sixty??

You're really not very good at this. I'm sure you're of good heart and you're on our side, but your handwringing over this SNL thing is just outrageous. Stop it. You don't know what you're talking about, and you keep proving it with each additional post.

[Bippity Boo]

49. i'm not telling you to shut up, so stop telling me

you disagree with me, i disagree with you. please stop presuming this means i automatically lose.

[VolcanoJen]

52. Fair enough

Please continue defending your hypothesis. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

[Kukesa]

96. Hey, I disagree with you, too, Bippity.

Ms. Palin came across as shallow and plastic last night. But then, we knew that, didn't we?

Vote changer? No way.

Colin Powell will be the talk of the media for the next two days, not what's-her-name.

[TexasObserver]

51. OK, you're definitely not talking like a Democrat.

If you're going to pretend to be someone you're not, you have to learn the things we would not say.

You just said one of them. You see, we loathe Grumpy because he's is IS angry, he IS unlikeable. Those are FACTS, not matters of image. And our attraction to Obama isn't shallow.

[Bippity Boo]

54. you're not talking like a democrat, you're talking like a bully

I don't express myself as you would prefer, so I'm not a real democrat? So much for the "big tent" theory. You're being a paranoic, witch-hunting "narc" detector.

I want Obama to win with all of my hope. That does not mean that I do not see how hard it is for Democrats to win the Presidency in a society where plutocrats control every single media outlet.

[TexasObserver]

55. WE capitalize Democrat, and you're talking like Sean Hannity.

You ain't foolin' anyone here except yourself.

[Bippity Boo]

58. you're talking like an Obama-hating conspiracy theorist

I guess the GOP don't have the monopoly on fear and scapegoating.

[TexasObserver]

63. Whatever, Mr. Buchanan!

[cliffordu]

110. Swing voters?? Anyone who says they haven't made up their mind is

a lying sack of crap, in my not so humble opinion.

[blitzen]

19. It was boring, lame, inconsequential, and, insofar as there was "content"....

it all was meant to portray her as a fool. So, lose-lose for McLoser.

[soothsayer]

83. well said!

[Joe the Liberal]

22. I agree......

She didn't just go on there for shits and giggles, they have an agenda. I doubt this will make many people change their minds on who they are voting for but like I said she didn't go on there just for the hell of it.

[tkmorris]

23. You amuse me

You are either the most frightened Democrat I've ever met or just very bad at..... being something else.

The media will do what they will do. If they will praise Palin for appearing on SNL, they would just as easily praised her for NOT appearing. They don't say things based on anything that actually happens, they make up the narrative to fit their argument. It doesn't MATTER what the candidates do, at least when it comes to what the media will say.

What matters is what gets through to the public, regardless of what the media says. Palin went on SNL, and looked lost. She looked like the butt of a joke, and most who saw it will remember it that way no matter what the media says happened.

If you are just trying to yank our chains here, well, you suck at it. If on the other hand you really believe the nonsense you spouted above then you have a metric assload to learn about politics, elections, and the media. Perhaps you would do well to become an expert on the subject material before calling other people delusional. I realize that everyone feels they have a right to their opinion, and I suppose in some sense they do, but having an opinion on things you know little about just makes you look extraordinarily foolish.

[silverojo]

28. Come down off your high horse

I've been heavily into the election game since 1984, and I have seen where seemingly unimportant things have made drastic changes in polling AND election results.

This SNL appearance is a distraction from Obama's campaigning and from the issues. In other words, it's just what McSame's camp wants. It makes me sick that SNL even had that bitch on their show. Why not have Joe Biden on, and have him debate Tina Fey as Sarah Palin? It would've been a lot funnier, and we would've gotten the big-time publicity.

[TooRaLoo]

32. I think you're right about the distraction part.

But the people who see clips on the news will probably still see her as either looking out of her element, or they will see her as a joke. I agree with you it will probably be used, but not to the effect that the McCain camp would like. Just like so many of their backfired ideas.
edit: typos

[tkmorris]

48. Dude, the OP is punking you

Don't you realize that?

[Bippity Boo]

33. if the system is as trustworthy as you suggest, why was Bush re-elected?

Fox News is the highest rated cable news network at the moment. We are not living in a fact-based society. That is the entire premise of The Colbert Report: the GOP exploits and maniuplates gut feeling over actual facts.

Jimmy Carter was a great man who spent his presidency being mocked and maligned. Ronald Regan was a malevolent poseur who was lauded as if he were a great man for most of his 8 years in office.

Elections are not about who has the facts on their side. Elections are in large part about about manipulation. The GOP has the upper hand in this regard because they mind lying to the American public less than Democrats do. The more you are willing to lie, the more you can manipulate the public, and the better you will do at politics. Ethics are a disadvantage in political life.

[tkmorris]

53. I don't recall saying the system was trustworthy

Don't be ridiculous. If anything, I was saying the system is LESS trustworthy than you seem to believe. So untrustworthy in fact that iit makes NO difference whatsoever what Palin does, they will attempt to sing its praises. That's why her appearance on SNL is largely irrelevant, because the media will praise her in any case. If it matters at all, it is only to the few undecideds who could be swayed by what she did there, and those few will remember what they SAW, not what the media says about it.

[VolcanoJen]

40. Exactly. Perfect.

And you're right... in the end if this SNL stunt has any kind of effect, it will be that people will view her as a sorry butt of a joke.

[WallStreetNobody]

27. Just saw it and thought she looked kind of foolish

I just saw both the sketches that included her and in the first one she had maybe 3 or 4 lines, and in the other one (the rap) she had like 1 line. In that cold open where she had only 3 or 4 lines they had Alec Baldwin (who in real life hates Palin big time) talking about how incompetent she is and then the "joke" just being that he realizes she is right there and then calls her hot. Big deal, she got pwned right to her face and didn't have any comeback. The bigger joke of all this is that she, the Republican vice-presidential candidate, has yet to hold a press conference and won't even go on Meet The Press (which all candidates before her except for Quayle have done) but she will do a late-night comedy show like SNL?

[TooRaLoo]

29. The uncomforatble part before the rap:

I actually thought she seemed very serious about backing out of doing the rap herself. I'm sure that's the way that segment was written, but it came off as such a somber thing when she said that her campaign thought that was a bad idea. As another poster said, she looked lost.

[LisaL]

30. Well, to me it just looked horribly awkward.

They seem to have been mocking her to her face.

[TexasObserver]

37. Go on!! You're so full of fascinating observations.

Or ... something.


Anyone who thinks Palin's appearance on SNL moves the polls anywhere is delusional, the kind of delusion that only followers have.

[steve2470]

45. if anything, she lost part of her base but maybe gained a few mindless swing voters, net effect of 0

eom

[Bippity Boo]

60. you might be right there

most of the right wing racists she appeals to hate rap music, so i definitely concede that possibility.

[democracy1st]

47. Ok a VP that goes on a comedy show but refuses interviews and Sunday Morning Talk

I Call BS

[Bippity Boo]

57. That should tell you how threatening the McCain camp views SNL: not at all.

They allowed her to go on a show, but they do everything to avoid placing her in any situations beyond their control. SNL was a cakewalk for them. Lorne Michaels is a McCain donor.

[TexasObserver]

59. Tomorrow, they'll have a silly segment about her in news, but then a serious segment, too.

All the serious newspeople will lament that she has time to go on SNL, but can't answer simple questions in interviews, like every nominee for president or vice president has.

She'll get some chuckles from the more vacuous news talkers, but the more serious pundits will pan her for her continuing cowardice in refusing to face the media.

The net impact will be that it will diminish Palin's already fallen stock.

[Monk06]

61. If they're banking on a solid performance on SNL to take them over the top three weeks from

the ballot box, they are beyond desperately fucked.

The only way they can win is to steal it and that
is what they are attempting to do.

Get the polls as close as possible so the theft can't
be detected

[snowbear]

62. If Colin Powell actually endorses tomorrow, that will be the =BIG= news the next few days...

And I'm pretty certain that before this thing is all over, our guy will also be on SNL and he will ROOoOOOOOck!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~ I love you President Obama ~~~~~~~~~~~

[TexasObserver]

65. The economy is big. The endorsement of Powell is big. Palin is a footnote.

Palin no longer matters to anyone except the GOP base.

She's turned off Democrats and independents.

The SNL show will not move anyone, except Rich Lowry, and he's pathetic.

[barack the house]

64. Believe me it's all over we are only working for how much we will win this election now. >

Not even being over confident just on absorbing the data. McCain even knows it that is why the dinner had his concession speech.

[Douglas Carpenter]

66. I agree that the self-deprecation - "lightens up" her image and makes her

look like a good sport, not the ignorant, nutter and vile smear master that she really is. It was certainly more positive for her than negative; by far. Much like Barack Obama seen laughing at jokes about himself at the Al Smith dinner.

However, I doubt very much that it will have any real effect on the election one way or another.

[Bippity Boo]

67. Final thoughts, to clear some things up...

My intention was not to declare this a decisive moment in the campaign or to claim that Palin is charismatic. My intention was to draw attention to the fact that I believe that SNL allowed itself to be used by the McCain campaign, and they got out of it what they were hoping for. Palin was treated gently, there was no effective blows directed at her, only lightweight material about Eskimos and beauty pageants. My main reason for posting was a feeling that those who felt that Palin was humiliated by her appearance on SNL are misreading the situation. No insult towards those of that opinion intended.

Gotta get some sleep now. Thanks for discussing this with me, for the most part civilly!

[crappyjazz]

71. I can see the point you are trying to make

but I disagree ...

I don't think this will have a lasting effect either way, especially with Colin Powell coming up this morning, SNL will be forgotten.

[nc4bo]

68. The joker and the clown: Ready to Lead?! Pfft.

Didn't watch - hope to get in line early enough to see Obama today and watching tweedle dum-dum on SNL was just soooo not worth staying up late for.

[Tarc]

69. It is not any sort of "win" for the Republicans. Your analysis is shit

They got to sling all the Palin stereotypes right to her face, and she had to suck it up, smile, and nod along with it. If you were expecting SNL to do some sort of vicious broadside Punk'd sort of thing with her there, then I marvel at your serious lack of intelligence. Above all, SNL is an entertainment show. It isn't news, it isn't even the Daily Show.

This is by far the dumbest thread in the DU today.

[shaniqua6392]

70. Actually her appearance was so bland

that the media is hardly giving it a second look this morning. There was not really anything newsworthy that happened. It was actually boring. No one will even be talking about it tomorrow. SNL played it perfectly. She will not get any traction out of her appearance. There is no big story. It did not do anything to promote or improve the McCain/Palin ticket.

[Sodan]

72. It was boring. Just boring.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

73. Don't mean dog-do, but I feel your palin.

[npincus]

74. yeah, but she wasn't that good.

Not a rehabilitating perfomrance, and I would say the SNL writers made sure of it.

[Clio the Leo]

75. Pretend Barack went on the show and....

..... someone sang a country song "for him" in which the lyrics made reference to him being a Muslim and pallin' around with terrorists.

That's essentially what Palin did last night.

See, not so positive huh?

But *I* enjoyed it! ;)

[radfringe]

76. she just sat there, said a couple of lines

what kind of appearance is that?

if they put glasses/wig on a crash test dummy, sat it in the chair - you wouldn't know the difference

it didn't garner any more support than she already had, just reinforced the paliniac devotion

[spanone]

77. i'm voting for palin fuck mccain win win win win win you said it

[bcoylepa]

78. it was beyond creepy

and she was clueless

[Debi]

81. Oh yeah....how'd it turn out for the moose?

:cry:

[Motown_Johnny]

84. not much of a win. standing/sitting there and being insulted was about all she did.

[Beetwasher]

85. "On every news program for at least the next 24 hours..."

They will be talking about POWELL ENDORSING OBAMA AND OBAMA'S 150,000,000 HAUL IN SEPT.

:rofl:

PWND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[randr]

86. She followed the script

and all the jokes went so far over her head her eyebrows never moved.
She has been exposed as the new role model for bobble head dolls the world over.

[mzmolly]

87. Colin Powell endorsed Obama ---- next.

:hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

89. I watched Faux this morning to see their take .... "she didn't blow her lines"

'She was good fun'



They wouldn't show it except 12 seconds of it, promising they would show it later.
If it was soooooooooo good like you say! Don't you think they would have played it
over and over and over again? They never came back and played it like they promised
the whole morning segment.

Talk about being Delusional

Faux News is the John McCain campaign.

[AlCzervik]

90. i think you're wrong but if Powell did not endorse this morning you would have been correct.

Rock, Paper, Scissors.

[casus belli]

91. They appeared to be fairly hostile towards her...

and they didn't really hold back when throwing punches her way. If you had listened to the rap, it was pretty biting. She was going along with it, but you could tell she wasn't particularly comfortable. I thought Baldwin's "How could you put Tina out there with that woman when she goes against everything we stand for, Lorne" was awesome. It was one of those not-really-joking jokes that apparently went way over her head.

I wish they had laid it on a litte thicker. She deserves every uncomfortable moment she gets.

[Orangepeel]

92. It will help her with her post-election career as a TV talking head. So that's a "win" for her

:shrug:

[NEDem]

93. Thank you for your concern

[fishwax]

94. it didn't help her or the McCain camp at all

Who cares if she's a good sport, willing to stand by with a smile while SNL makes fun of her lack of qualifications. Much of America (including many in the media) had already reached the conclusion that Tina Fey's and SNL's critique of her was right on target. The fact that she can suffer through it with good humor does nothing for her.

You are right about one thing--she handled the situation as well as she could have. It would have done her no good to get angry. But the appearance didn't help her at all. Nor did it help her campaign. In short: the bulk of the country is laughing *at* her, not with her.

"For god's sake, she had McCain donor Lorne Michaels practically holding her hand, protecting her through the entire opening sketch."

Michaels donated to McCain in the primary, well over a year ago. He donated to Obama--the maximum, in fact--when it was clear Obama would be the Democratic nominee.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

95. Not after this morning it isn't. The media coverage is now all about Colin Powell.

Palin's lame SNL appearance is forgotten already.

[me b zola]

97. Silly Sarah was punked

:smoke:

[Essene]

99. all media attention that she gets is lose/lose for Mccain. That's what we get.

all she did was VALIDATE the attention SNL has put on her patheticness.


and they made fun of her behind her back while she wsa there, for anybody really paying close attention.

[TheZug]

101. You may be right, but Powell's endorsement just canceled it out.

[Bippity Boo]

106. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong, and am GLAD I was wrong.

As I've made clear from the start, I'm praying for Obama to win. My trust of the American electorate is not exactly firm based upon the outcome of the Presidential elections in my lifetime.

[gauguin57]

102. Bippity Boo, we're voices in the wilderness. Our hatred of Sarah Palin is preventing

some of us from seeing how successful her performance on SNL was.

Now, I don't believe for a minute that it's going to help McCain/Palin politically ... not after a couple of days of pundits patting her on the back, anyway. The economy is still in the toilet -- no SNL appearance can change that.

But it won't hurt her, either. I am not concerned that this will make any difference in the election. I just know that I saw a politico demonstrate her own media savvy last night on SNL. I howled -- watching her put her hands in the air, with those button-down clothes and that B-52 bun ... comedy gold! And she knew it, too.

I hate the woman and everything she stands for. She's a liar and a hypocrite, but she also knows how to go on a comedy show and demostrate she's willing to laugh at herself -- embrace the cast's mockery of her. She earned her pop-culture cred last night.

Bippity Boo, I tried to float all this last night; about 2 percent of DU agreed with me. So, I'm giving it up. Time to put the Sarah Rap behind us and GOTV!!! GOBAMA!

[MarthaMyDear]

103. Kind of a hostile title for a thread! Coming on DU forum...

...and telling everyone they just don't get it.

Glad to know there are geniuses like you to set us straight! Thanks!

[Bippity Boo]

104. if i hadn't named the thread that, no one would have read it; it would have dropped like a stone.

hyperbole is sometimes necessary to get a point across

[budkin]

105. Bullshit. It won't make one bit of difference. The base still loves her and no one else does.

[cliffordu]

107. Well, THIS is certainly concernful....

[saltpoint]

108. Palin is a minus.

It doesn't matter whether she was good on the program or not good on the program. She's bad for democracy, she's a flirtatious dolt, and she has roughly 2 more weeks before voters toss her into History's big dumpster.

[zulchzulu]

109. All you need to know: Palin said she wouldn't talk to the press and they did a...

...spoof on her in the News segment while she acted like she could dance while they made fun of her.

It was pretty meaningless overall.

[myrna minx]

111. She was merely set dressing. What, exactly did she do but look uncomfortable

and read a few lines? :shrug: If this changed any minds, they were leaning toward McCain anyway.

[azmouse]

112. I haven't watched SNL in more than 20 years and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Most people don't give a flying fuck about that show.

[intaglio]

113. No, the media spotlight will be on Colin Powell n/t

edit for word order

[kid a]

114. Its only a WIN on November 4 - I'll bookmark this til then

I disagree.

You have no clue what you are talking about.
If the media plays her clips from last night and spins them as BRAVE SARAH - SHE BETTER SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH HER "POOR SARAH" BULLSHIT WHINING about the media.

FUCK sarah failin (and i don't mean literally)