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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:51 PM
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Conyers On FBI ACORN Probe

Conyers On FBI ACORN Probe

By Zachary Roth

Below is a letter sent by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), chair of the House judiciary committee, to Attorney General Michael Mukasey and FBI director Robert Mueller, in reaction to the news that the FBI has launched an investigation into ACORN in connection with its voter-registration activities.

In raising questions about DOJ's motives, Conyers makes the obvious link to the U.S. attorneys scandal, in which several U.S. attorneys were fired for not pursuing voter fraud cases with sufficient aggressiveness. And he makes the point that John McCain had raised the ACORN issue in last night's debate.

Here's the letter:

Dear Mr. Attorney General and Director Mueller:

It is with shock and disappointment that I read today's Associated Press report that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has opened and leaked an investigation into whether ACORN, a longstanding and well regarded organization that fights for the poor and working class, is involved in nationwide voter fraud.


As an initial matter, it is simply unacceptable that such information would be leaked during the very peak of the election season. Such leaks of information about ongoing criminal investigation matters are always inappropriate, and likely violate the provisions of the U.S. Attorney manual governing release of information about ongoing investigations (and which, in any event, would require approval from the responsible U.S. Attorney or Department division before release1). More significant in this case, however, they also run afoul of valuable Department traditions regarding the need for cautious and sensitive handling of election-related matters during the run up to voting (or, as here, while early voting is underway). Indeed, I note with dismay that this sort of release likely would have violated the traditional principles stated in the Department's Election Crimes Manual, such as the requirement that prosecutors "must refrain from any conduct which has the possibility of affecting the election itself," and that "most, if not all, investigation of an alleged election crime must await the end of the election to which the allegation relates," but those provisions were removed by the Department in May 2007 as the U.S. Attorney controversy was unfolding and it was learned that former U.S. Attorney Brad Schlozman had apparently improperly brought enforcement action against ACORN volunteers during the run up to the 2006 national elections.


Moreover, this news is all the more troubling in light of the proven wrongdoing at the Justice Department in the United States Attorneys scandal. As you are aware, there is extensive evidence that political operatives improperly pressured United States Attorneys to investigate and prosecute spurious claims of vote fraud in close proximity to an election. When some did not, they were terminated. Thus, one must view the timing of this extraordinary leak with added suspicion, given that it comes less than 24 hours after the Republican Presidential candidate raised these allegations in a nationally televised debate.


I know that it has become a right-wing cottage industry to cry wolf over alleged "voter fraud" during an election season (only to have such claims evaporate after the election has concluded). Indeed, using superlatives that would make P.T. Barnum blush, Senator John McCain, the Republican Presidential candidate, said in the debate last night, that ACORN "is now on the verge of maybe perpetuating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy." One would hope the Justice Department and FBI would more skeptically examine such sensational accusations than some cable news outlets. And this is particularly true where the allegations, even given their fullest reading, simply do not support such alarmist and unreasonable claims.


The facts as I understand them are these. A longstanding and well regarded organization that fights for the poor and working class has come under partisan fire for its voter registration acitvities. This organization has registered more than one million voters. There are allegations that some paid workers essentially cheated ACORN by filling out registration forms with bogus names and incorrect information. This of course would have harmed ACORN since ACORN pays to register potential voters, not phantoms, but - critically - does not deprive any person of their own right to vote or result in any unauthorized or fraudulent votes being cast. As one expert in this field has explained, "Mickey Mouse may show up on a registration list, but he's not likely to vote."


Furthermore, despite a long partisan campaign to stir up fears regarding so-called "voter fraud," they have been unable to produce any credible examples of meaningful fraudulent voting that could have a tangible impact on any election. Just this week, in fact, the Republican Governor of Florida, Charlie Crist, said - with respect to his state - that such allegations are "less than is being discussed" and ascribed these types of allegations to "some who enjoy chaos." Similarly, the Republican Secretary of State has indicated that he does not believe that ACORN is engaged in systematic voting fraud. Indeed, such allegations repeatedly dissolve under fair scrutiny.2


At the same time, numerous allegations have emerged that political operatives are engaged in supression of eligible voters and this activity has apparently failed to receive the intense attention that the federal government is now reportedly devoting to ACORN. For example, there are reports that the chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County, Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, has planned to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP's effort to challenge some voters on Election Day. Additionally, the Columbus Dispatch reports that the Ohio GOP in Franklin County, "has not ruled out challenging voters before the election due to foreclosure-related address issues."3


Accordingly, I condemn the leak of this sensitive information and remind you both of your and your agencies' obligations to handle election-related matters in an appropriate and non-political matter as the election season proceeds. In addition, please let me know no later than Thursday, October 23, 2008, if the release of information and all other actions taken regarding this investigation are consistent with the US Attorneys Manual and the Election Crimes Manual and, if not, what action has been taken in response. Please direct your response to the Judiciary Committee Office at XXXXXXXX (tel: XXXXXXXXXX, fax: XXXXXXXXXX).


Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr.

Chairman

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:56 PM
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1. YES!!!! It is what it is and it's time for it to stop. NOT THIS TIME!! nt
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:07 PM
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2. "..has opened and leaked an investigation.."
LOL! Love it. :thumbsup:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:19 PM
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3. It's a political
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:26 PM
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4. All the way.
It's really no shock that organizations like this get targeted. I think the most damaging aspect isn't to Obama's campaign, which seems to weather these storms without missing a beat, but to Acorn itself which now has a undeserved cloud of suspicion hanging over its head.

It's been a common theme this election - they want to kill the idea of community service, bury it under a mountain of cynicism, ridicule and false charges so others seeking to take Barack Obama's route to effect a positive change in their lives and communities are 'drowned in the bathtub' before they even begin the journey. That's the atmosphere in which republican politics thrive - one of fear, ignorance and hopelessness.

Of all the vile things we've seen this election, this is perhaps the most pernicious. They don't just want to cut down the tree of liberty, they are looking to clear-cut the forest and salt the earth so it never has a chance of growing again.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:33 PM
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6. Excellent points.
No one can forget Secessionist Sarah's comment belittling community service.



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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:33 PM
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5. these asshat illegal fucktards do this EVERY election
you can go back and check out the illegal investigations of Dems and voter fraud..."leaked" to the press

and then mysteriously cleared up and forgotten about later

This has been infuriating me for years now

and McCain on national TV whipping his base up into a frothing frenzy of blind rage -- GOOD one, moran. LIARS. Orwellian of you, you reptilian monster.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:53 PM
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9. ... and God willing, the scum will pay for it with "hard time".
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:34 PM
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7. write in to the editors of newspapers
tell them the problem
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:47 PM
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8. Let's hope this doesn't become yet another
strongly worded letter that leads to hearings that result in no action taken. :eyes:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:05 PM
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10. The first step is to call them out.
How many posters here were already giving credence to the FBI investigation?

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:09 PM
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11. Thank you, John Conyers..we will
beat this witch hunt.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:59 PM
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12. Thank you, John Conyers..we will
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:10 AM
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13. Iglesias on the investigation

Simply a Disgrace

By Josh Marshall

"I'm astounded that this issue is being trotted out again. Based on what I saw in 2004 and 2006, it's a scare tactic."

Who's that speaking? And what's he talking about?

That's fired US Attorney David Iglesias talking about the news leaked today that the DOJ and FBI are opening a nationwide investigation into allegations that the community organization ACORN is somehow working to undermine the November election through fraud. For more from Iglesias and his fellow fired US Attorney Bud Cummins, don't miss TPMMuckraker's Zack Roth's interview post from earlier this evening.

Iglesias got fired not long after the 2006 midterm election because he wouldn't get off the dime and bring bogus vote fraud indictments against Democrats or of Democrats to sway the 2006 election. In other words, he got canned for not doing what a number of his former colleagues at the DOJ are happily doing this very day.

Nor was Iglesias simpy a respected attorney with solid enough connections to swing a US Attorney appointment. He was a rising star in the New Mexico Republican party. Iglesias was the Republican nominee for Attorney General in 1998. (Not that it's immediately relevant to this question, but Iglesias was the Navy JAG lawyer on whom Tom Cruise's character in A Few Good Men was based.) This was that reassuring case where a political person's partisan attachments butted up against his integrity and the latter won the day hands down. This is someone who knows this scam from the inside and whose testimony -- literal and figurative -- comes not in line with partisan attachments but in spite of them. Everyone should listen.






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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:05 PM
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14. Cool ... Glad to see he's writing more stern letters .. at least it's SOMEthing
I'm still sticking to my guns on a MAJOR News Conference that couldn't be ignored by M$M.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:06 PM
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15. Have you heard about
the victory in Ohio?



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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:17 PM
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16. Yes, and that's awesome. Did Conyers' research play a role in that victory, do you know?
that at least would be some consolation here.

But my core concern here is that this gets stopped in it's tracks, by calling out these GOP Thugs
with a MAJOR NEWS CONFERENCE aimed at setting the record straight about faux "voter fraud" and
REAL "election fraud".

I'm genuinely concerned that these hate-mongers have gone over the line with this shit, to the
point that someone could get killed .. like a random volunteer who might have been sleeping on the
floor at the Obama Hdqrs that was just broken into by GOP Brownshirt thugs.
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