McSame's sneering at the health of the woman...

[MarianJack]

...is an even bigger gaffe than the media is stating. It is, IMHO, an even bigger gaffe than "that one".

The media and the pundits are, correctly, saying how damaging this idiotic statement was with the women's vote.

However, it is also very offensive to those men among us (like me) who are married to their best friend. I have so much love, respect, admiration and regard for my wife that I can hardly put it into words. I certainly don't ever want to live without her. When I say that I want to go before she does (when we're both in our 90s hopefully), she says "Thanks", because she doesn't want to live without me either.

We are adoptive parents. One of the reasons we went the adoption route was the likelihood of a high risk pregnancy if we conceived a baby. We have few regrets. We are the parents of a wonderful little boy. We couldn't imagine loving a child of our blood more than our child of choice.

I do feel very strongly that John McSame's callas indifference to the health of a woman and his dismissive and contemptuous dismissal of it as an extreme position will hurt him very badly among men who love their wives, girlfriends, fiances, sisters and mothers as much as I love my wife.

THIS is a family value? As Palin(comparison) would say (although I say it truthfully), "Thanks but no thanks!"

I'll happily read and respond to your responses in the morning. My ass is very tired and I'm taking it to bed. Good night &...

PEACE1

[Quantess]

1. This will not go over well with most Americans, I predict.

Thank you for reminding me that men potentially have a lot at stake, as well. Women shouldn't have to fight for this by ourselves.

The level of his contempt: outrage goes beyond what McCain anticipated. It's one thing to be a young woman, worried that you may not have a choice whether to get an early abortion. What John McCain said tonight should strike fear in every woman of childbearing age, even the ones who are eager to have a baby. And their loved ones should be afraid for them, if they paid attention.

[MarianJack]

3. People who love their families...

...don't want their families to be damaged for an extremist's political gain any more than we want it to be done for the profit of a health insurance company.

Thanks for the response!

PEACE!

[mb7588a]

2. When McCain finished his rant,

my girlfriend said, "He just lost."

She's the smartest person I know and I feel about her how you feel about your wife.

The women of this country should riot if he wins.

[MarianJack]

5. I don't think we'll see him within 10 points again.

I think your girlfriend is right.

Previously, I was hopong for a 6-8% popular vote margin and about 325 electoral votes. NOW, I'm hoping that McSame/Palin(comparison) lose VERY badly.

PEACE!

[pokerfan]

7. Stick a fork in him

he's done...


MCCAIN: Just again, the example of the eloquence of Sen. Obama. He's health for the mother. You know, that's been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in America to mean almost anything. That's the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, "health."

[mb7588a]

8. Your pics reminded me of this one:

All the Sith Lords have to stick together....

[pokerfan]

9. Yeah, it looks like Johnny is trying to conjure up some force-lightning

but that's really him making the air-quotes as he mocks the very idea that a woman's health could ever be in danger from pregnancy.

[MarianJack]

10. How contemptable of him.

I want him to lose by a very wide margin!

PEACE!

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Really wonderfully said...

:thumbsup: :hi:

[MarianJack]

6. Thanks!

:patriot:

[Raven]

11. Exactly how close to death would I have to be to satisfy John? n/t

[MarianJack]

17. I don't think he cares!

He was channeling his running mate. SCARY!

[Hepburn]

49. Ummmmmmmm.....close enough to have heard god's voice telling you...

...to vote Republican!

:evilgrin:

[cjsmom44]

12. Thought of my daughter...RANT COMING

Last night when I heard McCain sarcastically "DISSED" women in the form of mocking women's health...steam poured out my ears...I was furious, as I suspect many women across this nation were.
I thought of my daughter and her daughters and thought My God what century does this man belong to?
I thought of my Grandmother....the suffragettes...who won the right to vote
My Grandmother born in 1897...who graduated from high school in 1917...yes a woman graduating further than the 8th grade....who went on to become a partial owner of a major business. A working married mother of 2... in the 1920's Trailblazers...
She gave me choice...I am forever grateful to the women who fought so valiantly for women's right to choose...HOW DARE HE MOCK WOMEN AND WOMENS HEALTH... :grr:

[MarianJack]

18. He did MOCK!

He thought that he was immune to any charge of sexism since he has a 2 X chromosome running mate. Pathetic. This was a level of disdain for women that I'm sure his handlers never wanted the public to see.

BTW, You daughter certainly comes from a great bloodline!

PEACE!

[blogslut]

13. see sig

n/t

[MarianJack]

19. Great sig line!

:patriot:

[DangerousRhythm]

52. healthofthemother.com -- Oh yes, I got mad!

That moment in the debate and that picture really sum it up for me, why he is completely undeserving of the Presidency. Shameful!

[JohnMcCant2008]

14. My wife flew through the roof when McKKKain used his "finger quotes" when the woman's "health"......

she has NEVER been as insulted by any political candidate......

He is a vile and disgusting person - Palin even worse, plus STUPID.

I can't wait to take this country back............

[MarianJack]

20. This was awful and terribly insulting!

:patriot:

[Debi]

15. My "health" is important to not only my husband but to my son and

parents, brother, aunts and uncles, grandparents and cousins as well as people who are not even related to me. John McCain believing my "health" can be reduced to a (overused - barf inducing - Say Anything - cutsie) air quote is disgusting.

But let's step back and look at who used those air quotes to describe a mother's health....his callous treatment of his first wife....his behavior toward his second wife....his use of a woman as a prop in his campaign....and now the "quotes".

John McCain hates women. Why should he care about women's health????

[MarianJack]

21. A woman's health is not as important to him...

...as HE is to him!

[Ian_rd]

16. He characterized the health of pregnant women as a trial lawyer gimmick.

Damn he screwed up. A similar failure was his epic misfire after Barack Obama shot down McCain's criticism that "Joe the Plumber" would pay more under Obama's plan. McCain then pulled the "congratulations, Joe, you're rich" gimmick which was rife with the tone: "OK, nevermind the middle class, let's talk about the rich instead."

I expect small business owners and women were disconcerted at the least with these two moments.

[MarianJack]

22. WAIT!

I thought you weren't rich until you were worth $5,000,000.00! :sarcasm:

[Left Is Write]

23. I had a friend who was a breast cancer survivor.

Despite taking precautions to prevent it, she unexpectedly became pregnant. Her oncologist told her pretty firmly that the pregnancy was dangerous to her (history of hormone-fed cancer, and it would also mean she'd have to stop taking a medication she was on) and that she should terminate. She already had three children who needed their mother.

In McCain's world, she would have had to carry that pregnancy to term, virtually guaranteeing that neither she nor the baby would make it and depriving her husband and children of additional years with her.

[MarianJack]

25. YEP!

He was channelling his running mate.

BTW, a big :pals: to your friend. Hows she doing? Well, I hope.

PEACE!

[Hepburn]

50. Obviously merely a "pro-abortion" excuse, right?

:grr: Fucking asshole McCain probably would see it that way. :grr:

[Democat]

24. Can someone post a video link for this McCain rant?

Thanks!

[MarianJack]

26. I wouldn't be surprised...

...if it was in the political videos forum.

[Democat]

27. Thanks...

I'll check!

[Quantess]

28. Here's one. Only 21 seconds long.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x216109

[Arugula Latte]

29. I'm a woman and I flipped off the TV -- I mean with my middle finger -- when he did that.

"Meh -- women's health. Those damn broads are always exaggerating their women problems down there, aren't they? Screw 'em. Literally."

May his prostate explode.

[MarianJack]

31. OUCH!

He brought this anger on himself.

He deserves to lose very badly!

[spooky3]

37. good one, Oregonian!

:hi:

[Arugula Latte]

38. Thanks, spooky!

Good to "see" you! :hi: :hug:

[ncgrits]

45. ME TOO! I turned to my 16-year-old son and said pardon me, Ben, but

this needs doing. And I flipped him off on the tv.

The whole debate made me angry but that one moment sent me over the edge!
And this morning when I got to work, my business partner was still having a fit. She said she almost called me at 10:30 last night because she was apoplectic!!!!

God he's despicable.

[DeschutesRiver]

30. McCain the Misogynist

like he would ever discuss a man's issue, and put the word "health" in quotes as an insult to men?

I don't think so. Women are objects to him - he brags about it in his books and words in the way he describes only "his" uses for women; in what he did to his old wife and now his new wife, "Cindy the C**t"; and so many other examples. Palin is another.

[MarianJack]

32. YEP.

No respect for women at all!

[Overseas]

33. I agree. Sneering and waving quote marks-- the "health" of the woman

And then using the volatile words-- "those pro-abortion extremists stretch that definition of what is woman's (quotes gesture) health." He emphasized the word stretch, in an angry, disgusted manner.

Angry and disgusted by allowing abortion in cases of a threat to the woman's health ! That was really an intense moment.

That just capped off the whole mood of hostility that permeated all of McLiar's ugly remarks the whole evening.

I was glad to see Barack talk about what a difficult decision it was for everyone, and affirm his support of Roe v. Wade, while also talking about the need to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

[MarianJack]

34. A clear contrast...

...one guy who believes abortion should be "safe, legal & rare" and another who sneers at the health concerns of American women.

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Thank you! That's good to hear

and my husband would agree with you.

Callous disregard for women's health has been part of McCain's MO all along. This just crystallizes it in front of the entire country.

[MarianJack]

36. And his handlers...

...probably crapped their pants when he revealed himself so cynically!

[JerseygirlCT]

41. I'm still amazed by the number of people I come across

who think McCain is a moderate, and likely pro-choice.

And very few realize the extent of his anti-woman policies and votes.

It's as if he names one idiot from Alaska who happens to own female genitalia and it's all supposed to be good.

[MarianJack]

42. His Image...

...is the sheep's clothing for the wolf.

[Ozma]

39. Since when did the women's right to choose become a

PRO-ABORTION "movement"???

I missed that.

Is it like when rights for gay people became the "homosexual agenda"?

[MarianJack]

43. Unfortunately,...

...many of us allowed the rightists to frame the debate in those terms for a long time.

No more!

[WinkyDink]

40. McCain is not among the "men who love their wives, girlfriends, fiances, sisters and mothers."

[MarianJack]

44. And when you see how he treated his first wife...

...that's obvious.

[DangerousRhythm]

46. It's a HUGE gaffe and he should be ashamed.

http://www.healthofthemother.com/

Check it out. :)

[MarianJack]

47. A gaffe and an insult...

...to women and the men who love them.

Thanks for the link.

PEACE!

[DangerousRhythm]

48. Exactly!

No problem... I was pretty mad when I registered that domain, haha. If I stop to think about it for more than two seconds I get mad all over again. I was actually shocked when he did the air quotes, as if women's health is a joke or just something he can be snide and dismissive about.

Awful!

[Hepburn]

51. Your link needs a thread of its own, IMO. n/t

[DangerousRhythm]

53. Will do!

And done!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7496625