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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:15 PM
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Anyone else notice McCain attacking Obama's "eloquence" tonight?
"Look how eloquent he's being?"

As if that's a bad thing. To be eloquent. No, John, let's just say any old stupid shit that comes into our heads! Let's sit down to a big ol' helpin of word salad, the official food of the McCain campaign!

Clearly, he was reaching out to the lowest common denominator more than usual tonight.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:16 PM
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1. Several times....
he's such a jealous old fucker.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 PM
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11. I agree that this is the number one emotion here with McCain.
The jealousy and the condescension just seeps from every crease on the bastard's face. People who talk to others the way McCain talks to Obama are people who feel threatened.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:17 PM
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2. Using the word eloquent in this context means feminine.
It's a way to feminize Obama.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:50 PM
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31. You think so?
I thought he was framing Obama as disingenuous. He was calling Obama a liar without saying it out loud.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:17 PM
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3. In McCain's world, eloquent is the new uppity.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:51 PM
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32. Yep. Romney called it "smooth".
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:18 PM
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4. Of course! Because Joe the plumber does not do "eloquence"
:D
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:18 PM
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5. He's a hater, pure and simple. Wishes he could be the man that Obama is
minus the beautiful brown tan - well he might have some hate for that too!

Barack Obama is the complete opposite of John Mccain. Thank God!
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:18 PM
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6. Maybe 'eloquent' just = 'please don't hold my being a shitty-assed speaker
against me'?
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:19 PM
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7. More Rovian lowbrow populism.
"I don't know what he means by ell-o-quint, but it sounds like some mamby-pamby liberal elite B.S.!" :rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:19 PM
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8. I know it's wrong of me. I've worked with aphasics of all sorts. Still,
I laugh whenever I come across the phrase "word salad." I love that term. Love love love it.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:22 PM
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15. lol. I love to revisit it on occasion.
As a way to remind myself that I once did go to school for Psychology and have since decided to pursue a writing career. I miss my studies, though, and hope to return very soon.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 PM
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9. In other words...Obama sounds smarter than him n/t
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 PM
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10. My fellow prisoners .....
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:22 PM
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16. Senator Government
another great moment... lol
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 PM
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12. Imagine that. Mastery of one's native language
Too bad Grampy never did master it. Wonder how his conversational Vietnamese is? And I wonder what he thinks of his colleague Sen. Jim Webb's beautiful and accomplished Vietnamese wife. She's probably just another "gook" to Grampy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 PM
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13. See, this is why I can't
watch..I don't even want to think of how furious that would have made me.

Obama has had to go up against the forces of evil and he's still standing strong!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:25 PM
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17. I like to think I have a slightly moderate tolernance level, at least for the debates.
I can't stand to watch Fox News or listen to right wing radio anymore. The debates are usually entertaining for me. But tonight... tonight I was seething with fury throughout many parts of this. My stomach was in knots. Obama cleaned McCain's clock pretty effectively though. He neutralized Ayers and mostly ACORN. He flat-out pummeled McCain on the health care debate too. Overall it was a very heated debate.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:39 PM
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27. Thanks for watching and
giving your very vivid report..this is how I like to digest it..in small doses:)
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:21 PM
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14. He was feeding a lot of red-meat to the anti-intellectual base tonight. Eloquence = elitist
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:25 PM
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18. This is why I don't vote Republican.
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clarkgabe Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:33 PM
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23. Kinda of Like Chris Farley's Old Character on SNL
It kinda reminds me of the character that Chris Farley used to do on SNL, Bennett Brauer, the Weekend Update Correspondent(The finger-quote guy) (I don't "shower on a daily basis", or even "at all"..) John McCain turned into Bennet Brauer before our very eyes tonight! "Oh sure, he's the ELOQUENT one"
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:36 PM
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24. "I eat my own dandruff"
:rofl: LOVED that character! :)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:52 PM
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33. And to the racist base. "Eloquent" is damn close to "well-spoken". nm
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:26 PM
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19. Yeah its like telling a beautiful woman. "Ugh, she soo hot"
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:28 PM
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20. You know what that means?

"Out of one's league"
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:30 PM
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21. In addition to many other things, it's another variation on ...
attacking anyone who appears smart/intellectual, implying they'll pull a fast one on us. Problem is, it's going to take someone smart and capable to get us out of this mess, which the voters are already recognizing given the polls breaking for Obama in recent weeks. McCain doesn't have much left in his little toy ammo box, so he's playing to the lowest common denominator here ... once again ... pretty much what he's done from the get go. What a sad and pathetic piece of work he is.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:32 PM
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22. I am no orator, as Brutus is
but as you know me all a plain, blunt man
who loved his friend
And that, they know who gave me public leave to speak of him
For I have neither wit, nor words, nor worth
Action, nor utterance, nor the power of speech to stir men's blood
I merely speak right on
And tell you that which all of you do know
Show you sweet Caesar's wounds
These poor, poor dumb mouths
And bid them speak for me
But were I Brutus, and Brutus Antony
There were an Antony would ruffle up your spirits
And put a tongue in every wound of Caesar
That would move the stones of Rome to rise and mutiny!

(That's from memory...bagging on the other guy's "eloquence" is the oldest trick in the book)
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:36 PM
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25. Impressive recall of Shakespeare!
I was always a fan of Antony before Brutus. Brutus was a bullshit artist.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:37 PM
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26. Beautifully done!
:applause:
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:46 PM
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28. The trick works best if the speaker affecting humility
is in fact more eloquent than his opponent. As was Antony according to Shakespeare. As was Socrates (on numerous occasions) according to Plato.

The trick didn't work very well for McCain.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:47 PM
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29. yes and i bet Obama uses Cutlery and puts the napkin on his lap. Step out the cave McCain.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:50 PM
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30. Just like in the VP debate
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 11:50 PM by liskddksil
when Senator Biden would give an intelligent answer, Palin would say how she's not a Washington insider (ie. I dont know as much as you do about the issue).
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:53 PM
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34. It's something that we haven't seen for eight years
that's why it's so surprising to him.
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