Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Palin said today that the military gives us the right to protest. The AP and WaPo changed her quote.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:23 PM
Original message
Palin said today that the military gives us the right to protest. The AP and WaPo changed her quote.
In Richmond today, Sarah Palin had this to say to supporters yelling "louder," who she mistakenly thought were protesters:

"I would hope at least that those protesters have the courage and the honor of thanking our veterans for giving them the right to protest."

The video was shown on Countdown, and can be found here with the above quote beginning at the 1:10 mark:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27170156



But the AP directly quotes Palin as saying:

"I hope those protesters have the courage and honor to give veterans thanks for their right to protest," she said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h21ZbzgPbTVRftcJPT5vkHkonY5QD93PUPJG0



Juliet Eliperin of The Washington Post also misquotes Palin, using the exact words used by the AP:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/13/palin_stays_on_the_offensive_a.html



There is a substantial difference in Palin's actual quote and as she is quoted by the AP and the Washington Post. Palin said the veterans have given the protesters the right to protest. This would be news to our founding fathers. Maybe in a military dictatorship rights are dispensed by the military, but that's not how we do it here in the United States.

In the "cleaned up" quote, the veterans have not given the protesters the right to protest. Instead, the veterans are the receivers of thanks to be given by the protesters. This language allows for the interpretation that Palin meant the veterans protected the right to protest. There's a big difference between giving rights and protecting them, and both the AP and the WaPo seem to have taken it upon themselves to change Palin's language, and thus the meaning of what she said.

Darn those words and why they're put in a certain order!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:24 PM
Response to Original message
1. funny how she assumes protesters cannot be veterans
very telling
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:07 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. Yeah, it's telling all right - she's the equivalent of a 60's "Chatty Kathy" doll programmed to
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 05:08 AM by 1Hippiechick
repeat the same phrases over and over when her string is pulled. She's a bimbo. Period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:27 PM
Response to Original message
2. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Not even the Constitution gives us rights, it only enumerates them
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 10:36 PM by NYC Liberal
and protects the government from infringing upon the rights we as human beings already have, inherently.

Any rights listed in the Constitution are worded as a limitation on the government:

"Congress shall make no law..."
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"
"the right of trial by jury shall be preserved"
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude"
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax."
"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:49 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. Exactly
As Rabrrrrrr pointed out so well on another post on this same subject, the Constitution says what the government CAN'T do with respect to mankind's inalienable and inherent rights, which the Founders viewed as existing a priori and ad infinitum. The Constitution does not grant any rights, man is born with them already.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
4. Damnt that liberal media anyhow!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
votetastic Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:35 PM
Response to Original message
5. great catch... very subtle, but there is a huge difference
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:38 PM
Response to Original message
6. I noticed this too
The problem is that it's considered politically incorrect to question anything someone says when they invoke the troops. That's why the media won't call her out on this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:53 AM
Response to Original message
8. So this is what "in the tank for Obama" looks like, then?
So now we need to believe that the press is liberal and pinko, but utterly incompetent at carrying out their evil plot to install Obama.

Is this the same as me having to believe that Obama is a Muslim fundamentalist terrorist extremist anti-white Christian atheist? My head would hurt too much to ever be a right-winger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
10. kick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
11. Big difference.
Why must Republic morons always be given the "benefit of the doubt." Isn't that how we got saddled with Bush?

-Laelth
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:46 PM
Response to Original message
12. AP wants you to thank John McSame personally.
:rofl: I love it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
13. Yes, but it's more complex than that. The military gives you the citizen the "right" to protest.
The military gives you the freedom to protest, but you, you the civilian beneficiaries, must not arrogantly avail yourselves of the "right" to protest because, unless you are actually in the military, you are not worthy of freedom; for you are a worm that isn't even fit to scrub the bottom of military man's boot with your tongue. And of course if you are in the military you do not have the right the right to protest anything at all, unless you just like to spend years looking at the insides of a military prison. There is a time and place for everything except the exercise of your freedoms and liberties.

So to summarize, the military is the sole source of any supposed right to protest and only the military is worthy of such rights, and no one in the military is allowed to exercise those rights since that would be inconsistent with military efficiency and discipline.

It's a little tricky, but I think that covers it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC