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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:00 PM
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I have a new (2nd) favorite website. It will be yours too
http://www.270towin.com/

Everyone has already given Obama states that provide him 264 of the needed 270 electoral votes in order to take the White House.

I have read here today that Obama is up 8? in Missouri...Boom that's 275 ev's and the White House
Obama is up in Ohio (that alone would give him 284 and the White House
Obama is up in Virginia, North Carolina, and even Florida by varying amounts, and Colorado is in play as well.

The Beatles sang, "All you need is love", but we should be singing, "all we need is one (state)".

I am not complacent but hopeful that this puts another theft of an election too far out of the reach for the reich wing.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:03 PM
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1. The MSM's challenge: Keep referring to the "over-the-top" states as tossups
Even when they're +10 points in Obama's favor. Otherwise their viewers might get the idea that he's going to win.

Good luck with that!
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:14 PM
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4. Are they priming us for a theft or trying to keep the "horse race" exciting for ratings?
I tend to resist the idea that there are many, many organizations all keeping secret about some conspiracy, like the theft of an election. I'm thinking, Why wouldn't there be one whistleblower who would feel that they could profit more from being the break the story. Maybe Robert Redford can play them in the movie, too! So I shy away from something that assumes broad cooperation in a lie and prefer to find some other common motivator, like greed. However, what what happened in 2004? Virtually no reporting on the indications of fraud in Ohio and elsewhere that were worse than those in Ukraine. The MSM accepted en masse that Ukraine had a problem and uniformly dismissed evidence and testimony of fraud in the US.
So what's motivating this weird "toss-up" rhetoric? Ratings and relevance, or something uglier and more contrived?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:04 PM
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2. One of the few sites that shows MS as a tossup (as I do)
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 03:17 PM by featherman
Please remember that a good non-white (AA, Hispanic, Asian) turnout of say 40% or more of voters combined with just 21 - 22% of the white vote (liberals, students, professionals, union, and retirees from the Midwest) equals a very close race in MS. This is my pick for the election night shocker.

Mississippi Demographics (2006)

White 58% Black 37.2 Hispanic 2.5% Other 2.2

Total non-white population: about 42%

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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:22 PM
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6. I'd also move CO from "leans Obama" to "remember Florida and Ohio?"
There are ugly indications coming from Colorado that their Scty of State is purging legitimate voters in the style of Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell. So I sure don't count on Colorado when tooling around with NPR's interactive EC map.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:04 PM
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3. I like RCP's create a map function. They let you choose lean states and solid states.
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:17 PM
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5. Yeah, so, after playing with that for about one minute
It's pretty clear that, without a major "game changer" or MASSIVE election fraud, Obama's gonna win.

Even if you give McLame Florida AND Ohio.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:28 PM
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9. Give McMansion all the tossups (per NPR's map) plue stolen CO.... Red squeaks by.
This is an ugly scenario, but not one that cannot be explained away more realistically than 2004. Do you suppose it is in within the authority of the Colorado Governor or Atty General to prevent Republican electoral college electors from leaving the state if there is reason to believe that the state's SOS was party to election fraud?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:22 PM
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7. K&R for hope !! ///
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:27 PM
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8. Neat to look back through old years
Young people like me, (or at least ME), forget that the country wasn't always split the way it is now. Really weird for me to look back just 20 years and see it going 99% to one party one year, then 99% the other way, then splitting East/West instead of north/south...
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