"He sat there for 20 years listening to Wright"

[question everything]

an acquaintance commented. And then added the new mantra of a "split government." I pounded on this one, asking where were they in the past 8 years...

Still, I wonder whether Wright was having inflammatory sermons during the whole 20 years, or whether they got harsh after Bush came to power. I think that all the videos that were published were from relatively recent years.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Your acquintance has been listening to McCain.

So he's really got no ground to stand on.

[WinkyDink]

5. And Limbaugh, Hannity, and the rest of the LIARS.

[olkaz]

2. I don't waste time on this sort of thing. I attack attack attack.

I'd go on about how Palin sat and listened to patently antisemitic diatribes and didn't leave her pew.

[Catshrink]

6. Not to mention spoke at the AIP convention

that her husband belonged to. Talk about hanging around with terrorists!

[question everything]

7. To be fair, this, and the witch doctor something were a one time event

I think that this was the point of that former Democrat: the duration.

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. "To be fair" I hate those quotes BTW Palin attended her NUTTY church since she was 12

Tell that to your dumbass friend .....TO BE FAIR


Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God in Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002: over two and 1/2 decades. Sarah Palin's extensive pattern of association with the Wasilla Assembly of God has continued nearly up to the day she was picked by Senator John McCain as a vice-presidential running mate. Palin's dedication to the Wasilla church is indicated by a Saturday, September 7, 2008, McClatchy news service story detailing possibly improper use of state travel funds by Palin for a trip she made to Wasilla, Alaska to attend, on June 8, 2008, both a Wasilla Assembly of God "Masters Commission" graduation ceremony and also a multi-church Wasilla area event known as "One Lord Sunday." At the latter event, Palin and Alaska LT Governor Scott Parnell were publicly blessed, onstage before an estimated crowd of 6,000, through the "laying on of hands" by Wasilla Assembly of God's Head Pastor Ed Kalnins whose sermons espouse such theological concepts as the possession of geographic territories by demonic spirits and the inter-generational transmission of family "curses". Palin has also been blessed, or "anointed," by an African cleric, prominent in the Third Wave movement, who has repeatedly visited the Wasilla Assembly of God and claims to have effected positive, dramatic social change in a Kenyan town by driving out a "spirit of witchcraft."

The Wasilla Assembly of God church is deeply involved with both Third Wave activities and theology. Their Master's Commission program is part of an three year post-high school international training program with studies in prophecy, intercessory prayer, Biblical exegesis, authority and leadership. The pastor, Ed Kalnins, and Masters Commission students have traveled to South Carolina to participate in a "prophetic conference" at Morningstar Ministries, one of the major ministries of the Third Wave movement. Becky Fischer was a pastor at Morningstar prior to being featured in the movie "Jesus Camp." The head of prophecy at Morningstar, Steve Thompson, is currently scheduled to do a prophecy seminar at the Wasilla Assembly of God. Other major leaders in the movement have also traveled to Wasilla to visit and speak at the church.

The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form "Joel's Army" to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.
>>>>>>>SNIP

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/sarah-palins-churches-and_b_124611.html


YOU TELL ME HOW NUTTY HER CHURCH IS?

[question everything]

27. Thank you. I was not aware of this...

Still, we should not compare Obama to Palin. It is Obama vs. McCain. This way they cannot even bring the flimsy "experience" that she has.

[olkaz]

17. Doesn't matter. Attack, attack, attack.

It feels stupid to do it, but with people like this, it's the only language they'll understand.

I'd never argue with a fellow DU'er like that.

[FrenchieCat]

19. There was another witch doctor, and a Jews for Jesus Freak,

and speaking in tongues, and AIP, and rape and incest victims forced to bear the children of their attackers, and Breaking the public trust.

The bottomline is that you don't want Barack to win, and therefore you aren't going to argue any point with any real vigor apart from providing the counter argument no matter what any of us say.

You continueously post these assinine OPs, and the term that comes to mind in reference to you is; Do you think we are stupid?

[WinkyDink]

3. This person wants a "split" govt? Because he wants nothing accomplished?

[Liberal_in_LA]

4. funny how quickly they pick up the latest tactic from rightwing radio

[FVZA_Colonel]

8. Why do these people who suddenly want a "split government" seem to be the same people who thought

there was nothing wrong with how Bush and the Republican Congress from 2000 to 2006 opperated?

[riqster]

9. That sneaky Moslem, going to a Christian church for 20 years

...throw THAT little disconnect at the haters.

[Peacetrain]

10. Key up Hagee, and those radical pastors of Palins.. they make

Wright look like a walk in the park..

edit for spelling

[NatBurner]

11. This attack has always bothered me...

They imply that for 20 years, Rev just came out and said "God Damn America! Amen" and nothing else-

As if he preached the same sermon over and over and over

[Overseas]

12. Cuz golly, if Obama listened to radical sermons, he might be a believer in Freedom of Speech !!

OMFG !!

But actually, they have no evidence that Obama was in the audience for the wildest sermons they were playing over and over again already on TV.

How will the Republican owned corporate media handle a re-introduction of the Wright stuff when they've already played those sermon clips over and over and over and over and over and over already?

[liberalmuse]

13. Anyone reading the story of Emmett Till...

along with countless stories of this sort, will completely understand where Rev. Wright is coming from. Granted, I prefer MLK's more peaceful way of bringing about change, but you see where that got him. :(

I will not begrudge any person for feeling angry and helpless when they've seen friends and relatives carted off in the middle of the night to never be seen again, or to be found lynched, and then see the perpetrators walk amongst them, never having to fear the consequences for their act, gloating.

It does not matter that Obama sat in Wright's congregation for 20 years (and this is an ironic argument, given the belief amongst these same people that Obama is Muslim). What matters is, Obama has chosen the peaceful method of change, and he has not made Rev. Wright's rhetoric his own.

[FrenchieCat]

14. "I pounded on this one, asking where were they in the past 8 years..."

That doesn't make much sense.

Split government is not what has happened for 8 years, so what pounding did you do eggsactly?

Also, Did you bring up the anti-semitic pastors on the Republican side, or did you forget.

You might should ask your "acquaintance" why hate speech coming from some sources are more acceptable than from others? Considering that only 2 short excerpts were pulled from the archives in reference to Rev. Wright, what 20 years are they speaking of?

Bottomline is that your posts always make me want to go take a shit.

[treestar]

15. Wright was a marine

How dare the repukes attack his service to the country.

He can criticize it from time to time if he wants to.

I also doubt every single sermon of his was like the one.

And why shouldn't Obama listen? These people make it a virtue not to listen to someone! Like you are supposed to close your ears when someone says something you don't like? Morans, every one of them.

Why should Obama have to leave his church because some white people don't like being reminded of racism in the U.S.? They think he, a black man, should have been so offended at this supposed slight to white people that he should have left his church over it?

[Cosmocat]

25. Two points that burn my butt ...

first, that Wright was a MARINE - ONLY a D who served can be trashed like he has (though, admittedly, he should have kept his yap shut after it first broke). But, make no mistake, ANY R who so much was a army reservist would be able to literally take a dump on a flag and the right wing/MSM would say leave him alone, he EARNED the right to do it.

Second, darn right he didn't do this EVERY sermon. I have no doubt he got on fire about the country no more than one a year or even once every couple years. YOU KNOW, these freak jobs managed to get tape on hundreds of his sermons, and they found one or two where he went off on a rant.

BO spent 20 years listening to the average fire breathing christian sermon, not America bashing.

Christ, could you image what the MSM would have done had Michele Obama been active with a seperatist group?

[treestar]

26. So true. The MSM should be all over the separatist group

The Ayers thing they spend so much time on is so ridiculously lame compared to it!

[TheKentuckian]

18. Tell numbnuts to at least bother to listen to the ENTIRE sermon

in question.

Wright was QUOTING SOMEONE in the segment that created so much concern. I thought it was a pretty good sermon.

Ask numbnuts if they would refuse to vote for someone that had listened to Robertson, Falwell, or Hagee.

Ask how they can vote for McCain who sat in Congress for over 20 years voting to bankrupt the country.

[MadrasT]

24. THANK YOU. I've heard the sermon, didn't object to it,

and I'm tired of people (Wingnuts and "on the fencers") tossing "Wright" around like they know the first thing about Wright or his theology.

All they really know about Wright is the neocon spin.

[cameozalaznick]

20. How about this...

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

[Metta]

21. McCain's spent his career voting agains people and for his monied friends.

Irony intended.

[Thrill]

22. Why is it they have only been able to find that one clip of Wright?

Kind of tells you he didn't preach it all the time

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. It tells me a lot more about the OP who already went through this in the primary

Doesn't it?

[yardwork]

28. What has Sarah Palin's church been doing for twenty years?

Palin's church has been casting out witches and recommending that Alaska secede from the nation.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

29. For somebody who spent 20 years listening to Wright's supposedly non-stop assualts on America

Obama seems to have an amazing amount of love and respect for America (otherwise he does an amazing job of hiding his sneering contempt for it)