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blueinindiana Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:24 PM
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Most major polls will have Obama within margin of error by election day.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-08 09:25 PM by blueinindiana
I am not saying this is reality just how the media and most polls will shape it as.

Corporate media wants Republicans to turn out and the only way they can insure that is a perceived close race.

In fact it has already begun.


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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:25 PM
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1. Thank you Mr. Hannity.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:25 PM
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2. welcome to the context free post of the day
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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3. gotta keep the viewer ratings up.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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4. I don't think that's how it works
They usually get closer to the truth closer to election day, so that they don't lose their credibility. The time to manipulate things is right now.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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5. The race always tightens before Election Day, but let's see what happens.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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6. Wait until you see tonight's ABC poll.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:28 PM
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13. What have you heard, DI? I read some excerpts but have no inkling of the top numbers
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:29 PM
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14. Just a hunch, I've heard nothing.
I think they're teasing something big, it'll probably align with the Newsweek Poll we saw Friday.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:30 PM
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16. When does this come out?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:33 PM
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17. In a couple of hours.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:34 PM
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18. 12:01 AM Eastern or so they said
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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7. Who cares about the national polls, Obama is blowing McCain out in the state polls. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:26 PM
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8. Thank you for your concern n/t
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:27 PM
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9. Maybe not.
McCain is performing more poorly than expected and Obama might still have a significant lead BUT the media has INCESSANTLY been pushing the 'Bradley effect' to, in effect, increase the margin of error.

That way, if Obama still has a 6-7 pt. lead and 'loses', they have a ready excuse!
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:50 PM
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25. I'm a lot more worried about the Diebold effect than the Bradley effect
And the systematic purging of registration lists. There might be a couple percent of Bradley effect, but there's a case for a reverse Bradley effect too. There may be some dyed-in-the-wool Republicans who say they are voting for McCain, but actually pull the lever for Obama. That probably depends on how angry people are about the economic mess on Nov 3. If the Dow returns to the mid-9000s and gas is running about $3.00 a gallon, that will be good for McCain.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:04 PM
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27. There is no 'Bradley effect'.
Not a significant one anyway - if there were, Obama would have never made it through the primaries.

'Bradley effect' is the 'cover' the media will use for any 'Diebold effect'.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:27 PM
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10. Of course one could say if the media spins it as close fewer dems will show up.
If they say it will be a blowout many people might not bother voting.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:28 PM
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11. Doh! Mmmmm. Doughnuts,,,,,,
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:28 PM
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12. I so hope you are wrong - but I'm afraid you are right. nm.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:29 PM
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15. WILL YOU QUIT THIS F-ING NEEDLESS NEGATIVE CRAP ALREADY !!
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:34 PM
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19. They want to make it look close so we may be fooled when they try to steal this election.
If Obama is ahead by too many points, they know their chance of stealing the election is slim.
And the corporate news whores will obey their corporate masters and try to ensure that a filthy rePigliCon is elected, so business will continue to get massive tax breaks and subsidies, while those who do the work and make the product and provide the service will continue to get shafted, as usual.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:36 PM
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20. step away from your cheesy faux crystal ball.
history doesn't agree with you. you may or may not be right, but it's simply silly guessing, and it all depends on what happens in the next 3 weeks.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:37 PM
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21. I am concerned about your concern.
In 2004 it was 50/48 Bush over Kerry. Of course it will probably tighten by election day unless we really do have a landslide.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:37 PM
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22. We'll see...
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:39 PM
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23. Thank you..it's been a real treat.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:42 PM
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24. Its likely to tighten up
Not just the polls. The real race. There are still undecideds out there as well as a few percent who are Nader/Barr fans who will probably switch at the end. McCain has gotten as high as 48% before so all he'll have to do is get his people back. As long as Barack is over 50% though, he's safe. Especially state by state.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:52 PM
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26. I just don't see how anyone
can be undecided at this poing. Maybe they are hoping for some personal media attention, a spot on a Frank Luntz debate focus group or they just woke up after all these years.
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:06 PM
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28. what a turd of a post!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:40 PM
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29. All the wheels haven't come off the McSame Hate Express yet
Because of the Alaska Disasta, voters are increasingly turning away from his campaign.

She is preaching only to the quier, and not to moderate or undecided voters at all. She already has the racist fundy nut-job vote, yet she wants to narrow the focus even more.

Real good way to sway them, using racism, hate, and all. Moderate voters just love to hear stuff like that.

I think McCain's numbers are rapidly tanking even worse than realized , and his internal polling numbers reflect that.

He knows it's over. He threw out the kitchen sink, and all it did was piss people off with his tolerance of hatred coming from his supporters.

Now he got nothin'.

He backpedaled from the vitriol. You can't do that in a political campaign. If you're not on offense, you're losing.

Kerry tried to play a defensive campaign. It doesn't ever work, it's a losing strategy. You are either on offense, or finished.

McCain's campaign is, as boarders say, 'rolling down the windows'.

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:46 PM
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30. Your concern is noted...
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