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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:05 PM
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Brainstorming thread
I'll go first with an idea...

Sreet theater type protests all over America.

Pigs for Halliburton, Billionaires for Bush. the best idease that came out of New York.

Sandwich boards.

Impromptu parades.

We have to get an in to start a dialoque with the people we pass on the streets.

next.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:29 PM
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1. street theatre debates
(moderately) rehearsed arguments with two or more actors, one for Kerry, one against, that take place in common areas - laundromats, grocery stores, coffee houses. Debunk the myths so that bystanders overhear, with lots of facts. Argue about what has happened to the environment, health care, whatever your favorite issue is. The environment is a good one, because it's been swept under the carpet for years, and not too many people are in favor of pollution.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:30 PM
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3. impromptu parades
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:30 PM
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2. Canvass, Canvass, Canvass...and then go out and do it again.
:hi:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:31 PM
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4. I agree I canvas everyday in downtown Cincinnati
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:40 PM
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5. talk to folks in supermarket lines
That's an easy way to strike up a conversation-talk about high prices, or higher taxes. Mention how Bush has screwed the working class. State facts. I've gotten into some good conversations around town this way.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:17 PM
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6. We need more of our articulate and attractive Dems on TV
and less of Terry McAuliffe, who is eminently unimpressive. We need a few catchy phrases about Bush repeated over and over and over that will tar him forever. One idea Kerry is using now is good: that Bush is running on 9/11 because everything else he has done is a failure. I would prefer he is "hiding behind" 9/11 and terrorism. It makes him sound more wimpy.

Another theme that should be repeated: Bush's reckless and belligerent policies have made the world more dangerous and increased the number of terrorists. He has inflamed the Arab world against us. Bush uses militarism in place of diplomacy. (another great phrase Kerry could use.)

A campaign ad could be made using several newspaper quotes and quoted studies: about how the number of terrorists has increased due to our invasion in Iraq; using quotes of the percentage in various countries that no longer respect the US compared to a few years ago (there was some study done recently); about how we didn't guard the radioactive material in Iraq during the war; how Bush unilaterally ended the nuclear treaty with Russia; and then show pictures of millions of protesters protesting Bush in London, Paris, Rome, and New York. And then end with a question: is this how to make the world safer?

Hit him in his national security bullshit!!! Hit him in his strength, which is all charade and lies anyway!

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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:33 PM
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7. From Josh Marshall a quote from NBC News
This kind of thing needs to be incorporated in an ad.

"As speakers at the GOP convention trumpet Bush administration successes in the war on terrorism, an NBC News analysis of Islamic terrorism since Sept. 11, 2001, shows that attacks are on the rise worldwide — dramatically.

Of the roughly 2,929 terrorism-related deaths around the world since the attacks on New York and Washington, the NBC News analysis shows 58 percent of them — 1,709 — have occurred this year.

In the past 10 days, in fact, the number of dead has risen by 142 people in places as diverse as Russia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Israel. On Tuesday, the number of civilians killed by terrorists totaled 38 — 10 at a subway entrance bombing in Moscow, 16 in a bus bombing in Israel and 12 Nepalese executed in Iraq.

Moreover, the level of sophistication is increasing. Terrorism experts point in particular to the attacks apparently carried out by Chechen rebels during that 10-day period. The rebels, whose top military commanders have been Arabs, are operating at a whole different level."
NBC News
September 2nd, 2004
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:37 PM
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9. I still say massive writing to advertisers on new channels.
Tell them they support BS and are losing customers.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:35 PM
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8. Start sending people in "Chicken George" outfits
since he wants to cut the debates from three to two.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:38 PM
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10. I like Chicken George!
with Halloween so close Bush masks should be easy to obtain

Anyone know how to contact the groups that staged protests in New York?

Rosebud
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:41 PM
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11. We need something catchty
I say a stuffed "chicken hawk", i.e. the bird looks like a chicken but screeches like a hawk.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:44 PM
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12. But most of all we need to just do it
Instead of Kerry meetups at Pubs and homes, street theater!

rosebud
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:45 PM
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13. Bush is a coward
Not just because of being a chicken hawk. He is hiding behind 9/11 and fears to face his record.

I also think we should blast his patriotism. Every policy he has supported has benefited the global corporate elite and harmed America. Bush doesn't stand for America, he stands for his corporate buddies who have no loyalty to America.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:49 PM
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14. protesting hurts us with moderates
It casts our whole position as radical. Hate to say it, it's just what I believe. I think its necessay, but I don't think they respond to anything creative. We are taling abour uncreative unimaginitive people. TRhey might respond to traditional picketing, because it is somewhat standard and mainstream, but the people who were carried away on TV at the convention hurt us.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:52 PM
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15. I don't consider creative street theater type performances
like parades and vignettes to be protest.

more conversation starters

plus they will get local press

rosebud
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:57 PM
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16. Juan Cole comes up with an interesting metaphor
that the campaign could use:

http://www.juancole.com/

Bush gave a long speech Thursday night, which sounded like a laundry list of promises more than anything else. He pointed to few genuine accomplishments during the past four years, and seemed stuck in fall, 2001.

If you think about George W. Bush as CEO of America, Inc., it becomes clearer why his poll numbers have been so low (low to mid forties) in the run up to the election. No president with those kinds of poll numbers in the spring before the election has ever won.

Bush's basic characteristic is not steadfastness, as the convention attempted to argue, but rashness. He is a gambler who goes for the big bang. He loses his temper easily, and makes hasty and uninformed decisions about important matters. No corporation would keep on a CEO that took risks the way Bush has, if the gambles so often resulted in huge losses.

Let us imagine you had a corporation with annual gross revenues of about $2 trillion. And let's say that in 2000, it had profits of $150 billion. So you bring in a new CEO, and within four years, the profit falls to zero and then the company goes into the red to the tune of over $400 billion per year. You're on the Board of Directors and the CEO's term is up for renewal. Do you vote to keep him in? That's what Bush did to the US government. He took it from surpluses to deep in the red. We are all paying interest on the unprecedented $400 billion per year in deficits (a deficit is just a loan), and our grandchildren will be paying the interest in all likelihood.

And what if you had been working for America, Inc. all your life, and were vested in its pension plan (i.e. social security)? And you heard that the company is now hemorrhaging money and that the losses are going to be paid for out of your pension? What if you thought you were going to get $1000 a month to retire on, and it is only going to be $500? Or maybe nothing at all? Because of the new CEO whose management turned a profit-making enterprise into an economic loser? Would you vote to keep him on?

What if the CEO convinced himself that the Mesopotamia Corp. was planning a hostile takeover? What if he had appointed a lot of senior vice-presidents who were either incompetent boobs or had some kind of backroom deal going with crooked brokers, and fed him false information that Mesopotamia Corp. was making a move and had amassed a big war chest for the purpose? And what if, to avoid this imaginary threat, he launched a preemptive hostile takeover of his own, spending at least $200 billion to accomplish it (on top of the more than $400 billion he is already losing every year)? Remember, it was a useless expenditure.

It turns out that Mesopotamia Corp. was a creaky old dinosaur with no cash reserves, and couldn't have launched a hostile takeover of the neighborhood mom and pop store. And, moreover, its arena of operations is extremely dangerous, and nearly a thousand America, Inc. workers get killed taking it over. And it turns out that the managers that the CEO put into Mesopotamia Corp. were bunglers. They adopted policies that made the taken-over employees bitter and sullen and uncooperative. Instead of standing on its own, the wholly owned subsidiary of Mesopotamia, Inc., requires continued infusion of capital from America, Inc. It looks increasingly as though Mesopotamia, Inc., will have to be let loose, and that its new managers will opt for interest-free Islamic banking as soon as they can.

Meanwhile, the real threat of a hostile takeover comes from al-Qaeda, Inc. Because 138,000 employees had to be assigned to Mesopotamia, Inc., there are few left to meet that challenge.

So given this kind of record, do you vote this CEO back in? It is often said that a lot of Americans want to stick with Bush to "see Iraq through." But if you think about him as a CEO, and look at how well he has run things, you can see the idiocy of this argument. The real question is, do you throw good money after bad?
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