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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:00 PM
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CNN accidently reveals behind-the-scenes sloppiness
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 05:01 PM by Armstead
1)CNN accidently revealed what a bunch of sloppy whores they are a few minutes ago.

Just before Crossfire, they came back a few seconds early, while Judy was talking withe the staff. "Are you sure you want to use that poll? There's another one that shows them tied." Then realizeing she was on air, recovered the "oops" moment.

Then lo and behold, onm Crossfire, Tucker trots out a new poll showing Bus is opening up a lead. And then on Wolf Blitzkreig he makes a big deal about the new Time poll showing Bush with a double digit lead.

I've noticed this before. When there are polls with conflicting results, they show the one with Bush ahead.

I don't know if it's bias or sloppiness, but either way we need to call them on this shit when we catch them.





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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:02 PM
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1. Oh if only a DU'er caught it on tape
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:00 PM
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12. If only? If it was on IP, I have it.
nt
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:40 PM
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17. I have it on Tivo
I caught Judy in mid-sentence saying "She said there may be problems with this poll, there's another poll out today that has 'em even. I don't know what it is."

Then she notices she's on air, smiles and says "That's it for Inside... you picked up our conversation here.... that's it for Inside Politics." Then I can hear Carville saying the word "terrible".
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:14 PM
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22. excellent catch!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:24 PM
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28. Maybe you can PM Wonk to make it available
then we cn media blast it
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:05 PM
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2. Don't be a Naif, of course it is intentional.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:06 PM
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3. Nice catch.
I just put this on the homepage.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:12 PM
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6. Oops...
...I just nominated anyway.

:)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:08 PM
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4. There is a poll that gives Bush a double digit lead?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:09 PM
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5. It was conducted at a country club, apparently
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:13 PM
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7. The Reason Why Polls Don't Matter To Me
... There's only one person who's opinion I care about and that's ME.

I ask myself every morning: "What do you think of George W. Bush?"

And the invariable answer is: "Not much".

So if come November 3rd you find that the entire nation voted for George W. Bush, except for one asshole in Massachussets...

... blame me.



:grr:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:14 PM
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8. "the new Time poll showing Bush with a double digit lead."
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 05:15 PM by MrBenchley
If I had a nickel for every instance in my lifetime that Time magazine has been either dishonest or full of crap, I'd have more money than Halliburton.

And I wouldn't have killed American soliders getting it.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:34 PM
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9. It's a holiday weekend, few people will be watching any news
so CNN's lame poll reporting won't be very effective.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:37 PM
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10. That sounds like
Woodruff was questioning the validity of the Time poll.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:52 PM
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11. Wouldn't that be something
If they actually questioned a poll that was out of line with all the other polls. :think:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:02 AM
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25. Only When She Thinks She's Off Camera
It doesn't matter how much questioning she does when the cameras are off, if she's going to be a shameless whore as soon as the producers says, "You're live!"

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citizen Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:33 PM
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13. Has anyone here ever been polled?
Do you know of anyone who has ever been polled?

Who in the hell are these people?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:54 PM
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14. I (think) I heard someon on PBS say they thought that double digit lead
was fishy....I think it was Mark Shields and the rethug agreed.

Folks...we have 60 days to go...a lot can, and will happen. Don't get all shook up.

Rove has fu**ed up everything he has done...remember that.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:58 AM
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24. I'm one of those people...
... I participate in two online polling surveys by major polls. Can't say which.





(Begins with a 'Z'?)
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:07 AM
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26. Please note the Time poll includes leaners...
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 09:09 AM by obiwan
...those notoriously fickle poll-skewing voters. Also look at small sample size. Go to the Gallup site and find out their methodology.


(See response #23, this thread)
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:09 AM
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27. The problem is that the poll itself is likely to influence people
especially given the over-the-top coverage it's getting
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:28 PM
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15. bias or sloppiness
you still ask? it's OBVIOUS they are biased.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:34 PM
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16. Time owns CNN
so of course they were going to use that poll since they commissioned it payed 'good' money for it. :silly:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:20 PM
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31. Exactly.
Good point!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:41 PM
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18. For more info on see thread below
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:42 PM
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19. Thanks
:)

'Preciate that.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:46 PM
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20. What's the poll that has them tied?
Has it been released?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:46 PM
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21. LOL
They wouldn't TELL us that one...

I'd like to find that one, too.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:55 AM
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23. Here's a poll reality check...
...courtesy pollingreport.com.


Copy & paste to your browser:

http://www.pollingreport.com/
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 05:52 PM
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32. Not necessarily related, but good ammunition...
... good talking points at this link:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=154
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:35 PM
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29. I saw it, too
I thought she was cautioning that the Time poll might be an outlier.

God only knows what goes on during commercial breaks.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:05 PM
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30. the truth is more and more know about CNN and FOX..fuck them
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