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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:05 AM
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Clinton in hospital - CNN Just Reports
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:14 AM by mbali
(edited to reflect new report)

Wolf is reporting that he's in the hospital for tests. When he first reported this, the banner read "CLINTON SURGERY." Now it's been changed to "CLINTON MEDICAL TESTS."
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:05 AM
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1. What! Is he okay?
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:06 AM
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4. Didn't say, but suggests that it could be just tests or could be serious
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:07 AM by mbali
But don't think Wolf would have broken in with this if his sources weren't suggesting something serious.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:22 AM
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37. Link here (Reuters)
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=916320

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Bill Clinton checked into a New York hospital Friday for tests after suffering chest pains, CNN reported.

That's all they have. :-(
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:06 AM
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2. Diary on Kos says quadruple bypass
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:07 AM
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6. What? Oh no
I hope this is not true
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:09 AM
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10. I don't often say prayers but I will today
Get well Mr. President
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:11 AM
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the world needs him
I hope this is not true! He is the best!
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:06 AM
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3. Quadruple bypass
rushed to hospital
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:07 AM
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5. HOly crap!
Saying prayers now.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:08 AM
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7. Oh my dear God!
I'm feeling an utter wave of panic and helplessness at the moment. I sure hope and pray he's going to be ok.
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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:09 AM
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9. please let him be ok! n/t
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:09 AM
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8. Freepers think....
"Timing is suspicious."

I shit you not... It's almost a universal suspicion!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206587/posts
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:10 AM
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11. F**K THEM
Aholes.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:11 AM
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14. They're not cheering?
damned asshole freakerreapers :mad:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:14 AM
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21. I'm more likely to think...
....that someone's out to do him harm. The BFEE even does its own when someone's in the way, remember.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:15 AM
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23. OMG! How did those geniuses at Free Republic figure out
our secret strategy!? Yes, Clinton will undergo unnecessary open heart surgery to help Kerry win the election.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:17 AM
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26. damn. who leaked the uber secret memo???!!?
Those freepers are on to us. How did they get to be sooo smart? :eyes:



idiots.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:20 AM
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33. Be sure to save these fuckers posts. . .
. . .
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:26 AM
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43. We'd be saying the same thing if it was Crashcart...
How "convenient"... now they can remove the liability from the ticket.

At least I would.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:48 AM
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63. Get Well Mr. President. We Are All Cheering For You.
Only our Clinton knows how to zing those creepers.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:10 AM
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12. Just turned on MSNBC...not covering?
A former president rushed to the hospital for open heart surgery and they aren't covering it?

I'm confused. Is this a rumor or a confirmed event?

I hope it's the former.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:11 AM
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15. Really nothing to cover at this point . . . n/t
I'm sure they've dispatched reporters to the hospital and are working the phones trying to figure out what's going on.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:11 AM
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13. Where did this quad by-pass stuff come from?
That is almost NEVER done on an emergency bsis! Bill undergoes checkups much more often than most people, and clogged arteries (the reason for by-pass) is always detected way before and emergency arises. Get a grip here folks.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:12 AM
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17. i hope you are right, i hope it's just a regular thing
or nothing too serious. these posts really have me scared.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:13 AM
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18. Thanks - also CNN didn't report that he was "rushed" to the hospital
Wolf simply said that Clinton has checked himself into the hospital and some of his sources say he may be having surgery.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:15 AM
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24. because it is not the plaque that causes the problem
it is the clot that can form in a few short hours or even minutes. The plaques breaks off and the inside of the vessel becomes irritated. Then one day whammo, a clot happens and you are in trouble.
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JSG Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:35 AM
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55. exactly
My Dad had emergency triple bypass in July after just having a complete cardiac workup in March that came back fine.

The only way to really know the extent of any blockages is to do a cardiac catheterization - a fairly invasive diagnostic test that isn't typically done in routine checkups. Typically it is ordered only when something specific warrants it - complaints of chest pains, for example.

My guess from what I've heard is that Mr. Clinton went in with chest pains, they did the cardiac cath, and ordered the bypass. The GOOD news is that they caught it before it could do any further damage. That is good news.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:12 AM
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16. Columbia Hospital
Heart bypass surgery - Fox
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:14 AM
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22. A really great hosptial
He's in good hands. Keep positive thoughts going!
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:13 AM
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19. CNN
Wolf says Clinton had chest pains and is undergoing tests.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:13 AM
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20. He's lost a lot of weight on the South Beach Diet...
isnt' that one of those diets that emphasize meat/fats??

Please correct me if I'm wrong on that....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:27 AM
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44. No! It's an emphasis on good oils. Veggie, fish, lean meat.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:30 AM by Lex
.
Besides, don't you think what he's eaten for the last 30 YEARS would be more contributing than the last year?

It is a diet developed by a cardiologist, in fact.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:16 AM
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25. CBS just confirmed it...test and a possible bypass, at Columbia Hospita
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:19 AM
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30. really? CNN is making it out to be no big deal...just tests
how hard is it for these idiots to get the news straight before reporting??? Now I have no idea what's going on.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:19 AM
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31. Fox reporting admitted after blockage found
to undergo surgery
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:21 AM
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35. Dr. on phone with Fox questioning their surgery information
should be angioplasty
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:21 AM
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36. Why is Fox reporting so much more detail than the others?
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:22 AM by mbali
Do they have better sources or are they more interested in getting it first than in getting it right?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:18 AM
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27. Complaining of chest pains....
So far, it sounds like he's just getting tests done. May or may not be serious.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:18 AM
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28. This really unnerves me because it's all so scary right now...
and, God bless him, the Big Dog always knows what to say, and makes things simpler and not so scary. Even if it goes to bypass surgery, it's very very common; he should be just fine. We're with you, Bill -
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:22 AM
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38. hey clinton is good, and i have faith got him in time
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:24 AM by seabeyond
and will be well taken care of. but really, he is just man......

i just dont like the feel of hero worship like right does with bush or did with reagan, a yuk feel

not to make anything clinton has done/does less

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:29 AM
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48. Not so much a hero, just a good player on our team --
which helps as we face what we're facing now. I'm also a native of Arkansas, a small state, and grew up with Bill around.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:32 AM
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51. aaaahhhhhh.........i see
ya. well you know it is something today is the day, a day after bush speech, another story to take bush off the news. isnt this clinton dude so good to us, that he choses this day.

i hear ya. sounds good though. and msnbc is being awfully compassionate in talking this, which is nice to see for once being nice to clinton
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:38 AM
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57. That's good to hear -- thanks...
:)
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:18 AM
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29. So far, chest pains
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:20 AM by RatTerrier
According to Wolf.

Clinton checked himself in.

FOX is claiming bypass surgery.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:20 AM
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32. Hold everything then...
If he has a slight blockage, he could have a MUCHE less invasive angioplasty procedure.

Let's not jump on the bypass bandwagon just yet.

Let's hope it's nothing serious.

Hang in there, Mr. President!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:21 AM
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34. FOX is the only one saying bypass
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:22 AM by RatTerrier
I don't trust FOX. I'll believe it when I hear it from others.

Now they're saying 'tests'. Who knows?

Possible angioplasty.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:23 AM
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39. Hang in there Big Dog - we need you!
more than ever
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:24 AM
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40. First link I've seen
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:25 AM by RatTerrier
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:24 AM
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41. CNN - He has been told that he needs bypass surgery
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:25 AM
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42. CNN Source says that Clinton told he needs bypass surgery
but not an emergency - would need to be done today.

Source - a high level Clinton Administration official who spoke to members of Clinton's staff.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:27 AM
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45. Sounds pretty positive
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:28 AM by RatTerrier
He's in good health, though he's on that nasty SB diet. That's cholesterol city, folks.

CNN is talking bypass.

Checked in due to chest pains. Surgery could be as early as tomorrow.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:29 AM
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47. Thank God he went to the hospital when he did.
My understanding is that bypass surgery, while serious, is no longer that big of a deal.

Is that true?
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:28 AM
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46. CNN - Clinton has called friends to tell them he needs surgery
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:44 AM by unfrigginreal
surgery may come tomorrow
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:30 AM
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49. Don't you LOVE it? Can't you see Big Dog laid up in his hospital gown
with tubes every whichaway, calling his friends and telling them what's going on?

Gotta love him.

He's going to be fine. :-)
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:32 AM
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52. Yeah, things sound much better now than when it first broke
I hope he's going to be fine too.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:31 AM
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50. Thoughts of strength going out to Bill, Hillary and Chelsea
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:34 AM
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53. Freaking Drudge reporting heartattack
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:40 AM
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60. He's taken that down and now links to story of quadruple bypass
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:41 AM by unfrigginreal
Reports: Clinton to Undergo Heart Surgery
Email this Story

Sep 3, 12:31 PM (ET)

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - Former president Bill Clinton, after experiencing chest pains, is to have heart surgery for a quadruple bypass, media reports said Friday.

CBS News and CNN reported that Clinton, a former Arkansas governor, had gone to Columbia Presbyterian hospital in Manhattan with complaints of chest discomfort. ABC News said the former president would have a quadruple bypass on Friday.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040903/D84S9OQO0.html
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:35 AM
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54. I love President Clinton
:cry:
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:37 AM
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56. Oh I will keep him in my thoughts...I hope he is okay!!!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:38 AM
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58. Hopefully he will do OK (I have plenty of friends that have had that done
and are doing great!)
And another thing to take the air out of Bush's sails...how many millions for RNC and then hurricane, Russian hostages, and now Clinton....
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:38 AM
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59. Get well soon, Bill.
I know he will get excellent care, and with his willpower, he'll mend quickly.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:40 AM
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61. pisses me off
talking about Clinton and McDonald's.then say bush is in great shape..I think it was CNN....why why why do they always turn things around to bush.just like our hurricane.....they are saying that bush will respond fast to Fl....because of the election and what his father did.
These smackers don't realize that we are facing a storm the size of Texas.for Christs sake..I hate these bastards.......
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:42 AM
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62. Sounds like some on TV are downplaying that
I heard reference to his weight loss due to South Beach diet.

I noticed on The Daily Show a few weeks back that he didn't seem himself. Too mellow.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:53 AM
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64. An optimistic thought
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 11:53 AM by RatTerrier
I worked with a guy who underwent quintuple bypass, and he's in worse shape than Clinton could ever be. Also a heavy smoker.

The surgery was a success, though he had to take time off work.

Clinton will be fine.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:08 PM
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65. kick
:kick:
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:10 PM
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66. MSNBC - Surgery scheduled for Tuesday
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