I know the polls look bad today but key point to remember

[Politics_Guy25]

From my studying of the 1980 campaign, the polls told us that Carter/Reagan was going to be a dead heat/too close to call race as well in an environnemnt similar to this year and the party out of power ended up winning by 10 points. Hopefully, that happens to us this year. They also don't reflect the a*s* whipping that Senator Obama handed Mcsame last night either.

[kwolf68]

1. What in the hell are you talking about?

The Polls LOOK BAD?

[MercutioATC]

4. They sure do.

Obama doesn't have even ONE triple-point lead...

[kwolf68]

6. LOL

And also...Obama is losing in Idaho. Shit, Im really worried.

[leftist.]

25. He losing Utah as well, I'm drinking my lunch today

:)

[sharp_stick]

2. What looks bad?

Obama is still leading, McBush/Palin are still trailing. Looks pretty good to me.

[Lex]

3. Link to polls that "look bad" please?

[Lex]

15. Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

[jobycom]

24. You know how...

you sometimes start a post, and you get called away, and you come back later and just hit "POST," only to find that what you had to say is outdated? Maybe he started this a month ago, and just got back. :shrug:

[musicblind]

28. lol

:rofl:

[blisteringcold]

5. Are you smoking crack?

Um, evidence of polls that look bad that haven't been freeped? Waiting...

[Politics_Guy25]

14. Zogby, Rasmussen, GW Battleground and Hotline all moved today

From +7 to +4 in the GW 7 day tracking poll, from +2 to +1 in FD, +8 to +6 in Rasmussen and +3 to +2 in Zogby.

Essentially back to a dead heat when it looked like we were pulling away last week.

Even John King mentioned a national tightening last night on CNN. I just don't want anyone to become complacent. That's what I am all about. Work and feel like we're 5 points down! Overconfiddence leads to disaster.

[blisteringcold]

20. He's still up in points

So what am I not seeing? He even smoked McStrokeye in the polls last night. I think you're mistaking excitement and optimism as overconfidence.

[Cosmic Charlie]

38. thanks for your most concerningest concern!

[11cents]

19. Polls can't be "freeped" or "DU'ed"

Only online pseudo-polls can. Polls can be badly designed, but that's a different thing.

[blisteringcold]

22. Are we even talking about the same "polls"?

[WI_DEM]

7. The polls don't look bad today! One poll has tightened

most of the others are fine. Why are people getting into a tizzy about that stupid Hotline tracking poll? Obama still has solid numbers with Ras, Research 2000, and I'm sure GAllup will be fine, too. A new poll out today conducted in the last two days has Obama up by ten in Wisconsin. The debate won't be reflected until starting tomorrow and I think Obama will end up getting another boost.

[LibraLiz1973]

8. Um. I'm totally confused by your post? We are winning. What polls?

[DemzRock]

9. Oh, a couple of the GOP slanting polls went down a little...

But most still have Obama WAY up.

http://realclearpolitics.com/


Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 10/01 - 10/07 -- 48.9 44.0 Obama +4.9
Rasmussen Tracking 10/05 - 10/07 3000 LV 51 45 Obama +6
Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking 10/05 - 10/07 1220 LV 47 45 Obama +2
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/05 - 10/07 904 LV 45 44 Obama +1
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/02 - 10/07 800 LV 49 45 Obama +4
Gallup Tracking 10/04 - 10/06 2747 RV 51 42 Obama +9
Ipsos/McClatchy 10/02 - 10/06 858 RV 47 40 Obama +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/04 - 10/05 658 RV 49 43 Obama +6
CBS News 10/03 - 10/05 616 LV 48 45 Obama +3
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 45 Obama +8
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 49 46 Obama +3


And dailykos.com has Obama ahead by 10 last I checked.

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. Looked at an electoral map today?

Fuck the right wing, whore media polls. The only polls that matter are the exit polls on 11/4. If those don't match the "official" results, then there's a problem (They were always amazingly accurate before the invention of "voting" machines)

[TexasObserver]

11. the only poll that didn't show a major ass beating was Drudge's online

Real polls?! Obama is steamrolling, by all polls.

[spanone]

12. i think you meant to post this on a pro mccain thread

[Wetzelbill]

13. Here are all the polls released so far today and they all look good

Not only that, but Obama stomped McCain in every debate poll that I saw, including Fox's poll.

Wisconsin Rasmussen Obama 54, McCain 44 Obama +10
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
National Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 45, McCain 44 Obama +1
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 49, McCain 45 Obama +4
National Ipsos/McClatchy Obama 47, McCain 40 Obama +7

[Lex]

17. Those do look good! Thanks.

[Bucky]

16. I get your joke, even if some our literal minded friends here don't

I'm particularly impressed with the subtlety of "a*s* whipping" I bow to the master.

[ailsagirl]

18. (CBS) Who won the debate? Mccant 15.55% - Obama 81.5%

Voting is still open

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/07/politics/2008debates/main4508400.shtml

[Politics_Guy25]

23. Also DKOS/Research2000's one day sample went ffrom being up +13 a few nights ago to +8

A 5 point swing. The WORST thing that any of us can do is sleepwalk right now. This is the most dangerous time of the campaign for us. Keep at it!

[Wapsie B]

37. And honestly, this 15% of McCain's is what I would call the core gop.

Not the 25 or 30% people throw around.

[jobycom]

21. There are three types of elections.

Those where people want change, those where people want the status quo, and the tossups, where people are mostly happy so they vote on personality. 1980 was a change election. 2000 was a tossup.

Polls don't show this. They take snapshots, but trends need moving pictures. Even daily tracking polls can't show a trend, because they are pictures of what people have decided at that moment. Polls under-represent the undecided. In 1980, you could feel the dissatisfaction, even when the polls showed a close election. Even people who didn't like Reagan wanted change, and in the end, that's what they voted for.

I think this is a change election. You can feel it. People who normally vote Republican are unhappy with the way things are going. Even those who don't like Obama, and even some who like McCain, don't want more of the same. I think on election day a lot of people will have decided to vote for change, no matter who they personally like.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

26. You may be looking at them upside down

[mvd]

27. The race MAY have tightened a little

Negative ads might have temporarily brought out some racists and USA!, USA! type people. But Obama's response was good and we won't let the Repukes get away with it. No real damage done. Throw the Hotline poll out. No way are they tied on the economy! You are right that the debate will also help us.

[McPainsBrain]

29. Hey big boy

Higher numbers in presidential election polls = good

Lower numbers in presidential election polls = bad

Does that clarify a few things, large?

[thewiseguy]

30. WTF?

[Bleacher Creature]

31. You might want to check out Gallup. n/t

[five_horizons]

32. Gallup Daily: Obama 52 (+1), McCain 41 (-1)

Yeah, today's polls look terrible. :eyes:

[thewiseguy]

33. Yes those damn polls must look bad to you today.

[nc4bo]

34. I think you posted this on the wrong board, my friend. nt

[WritingIsMyReligion]

35. Must be some tasty crack you got there.

:D

[LynneSin]

36. Obama 349 electorial votes to McCain's 174 with only NC in a tie....

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Yeah it's a real nail biter

But we should ALL treat this race like we're 1point behind. Don't slack off just because it's looking good right now.