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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:16 PM
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Could that "That one!" remark possibly be considered a racist comment?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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1. Yes.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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8. Yeah but you don't have to even use that, it was plain disrespectful on a human level
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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My husband and I both took it to be racist.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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2. no, it was just an assholish comment n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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Okay.... racist asshole?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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3. I took it that way
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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4. Of course it's racist
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:20 PM by DesertedRose
Poppy Bush pointing out his "little brown ones"

It's meant to dehumanize people.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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5. That's how I took it
unbelievable.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:22 PM
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40. McGrumpy says NOT YOU TOM -- he's generally an ASS
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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6. It was condescending, rude, and disrespectful, but it was not meant to be racist.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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32. I tend to agree with you. Let's face it. McCain would act like this with anyone.
It's his reputation in the Senate, and most of those folks aren't black!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:20 PM
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34. Right. He's an asshole all the time, to everybody. This is just one of many many examples.
;)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:17 PM
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7. Don't make it about race. Just make it about McCain being bitter and mean and angry.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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20. Why should we be afraid to call a racist comment racist?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:20 PM
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36. We shouldn't, but Obama should.
Because then he goes from the "candidate who is black" to the "black candidate" -- huge difference.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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9. Definitely, IMO. nt
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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10. Watta ya mean "possibly"
It was the usual out-and-out racism you get from privileged GOP asswipes.

"That one" = "that n*gger over there" and everyone in America knows it.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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11. That's how I took it and my two roommates as well. n/t
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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12. It was a condescending remark from an asshole.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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13. yes but he didn't mean it that way I don't think...that was just his arrogance coming through
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:20 PM
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35. One of those "I'm more privileged than you so get out of my way?"
That was his attitude when he was in the Navy. Even to the point of telling the Navy if they didn't let him land he was taking his Grampa's field with him.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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14. I took it that way.
De-personalization.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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15. It fits with some of the other "code words" his campaign has been using.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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16. I saw it as a rude, partisan comment.
However, that's just my personal take.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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17. Considered? I thought he was going to call him boy, I am still shocked
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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18. arrogant, snide, rudeness is enough
race doesn't have to be an issue here. It was fucked up. Period.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:18 PM
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19. Possibly? It WAS racist!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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21. No doubt in my mind it was racist. He might has well have gestured to him as the house negro.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 PM by LibraLiz1973
It was that archaic and disturbing.
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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Not exactly. But I couldn't imagine it being used to describe a white prez candidate. nt
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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22. I think he just misspoke
I think he meant "Their kind"
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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23. It's Republican codespeak for sure.
Maybe it's similar to 'uppity'.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 PM
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37. Or "arrogant" n/t
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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24. I don't think so, I think Mcain is just plain jealous of Obama.n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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25. No
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM by bigwillq
I didn't find it to be racist at all but it was a very, very, very dumb thing to say. McCain is toast.
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sakura Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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26. The undecideds on CBS found it insulting and childish.
Then Bob linked it to McCain refusing to look Obama in the eye last time. Every time McCain tried to be funny, it reminded me of Bush senior-- pissy old man humor.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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27. No question about it... It's Racist.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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28. McRude was rude n/t
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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29. ABSOmotherfuckingLUTELY
Its the first thing I turned and said to my wife.
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Obamarulz11 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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30. I took as racist and disrespectful
That_________=I dont like him.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:19 PM
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31. that's exactly how it hit me
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:20 PM
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33. "That one" not to be confused with "one of the good ones" n/t
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 PM
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38. No need to go there. People will make their own judgments themselves but
the comment was pretty pitiful regardless.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 PM
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39. There's two levels...
1. Basic lack of respect for a fellow senator
2. Nasty history especially of old white people towards black people in this country.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:22 PM
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41. of course... *everything* is racist if you see the world that way /nt
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:22 PM
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42. It was disrespectful and rude, I don't see any substantiated argument for racist.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:22 PM
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43. Likely, but not certain.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:23 PM
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44. No, McCain has a long reputation of behaving like a "rude asshole" to almost everyone
at some point in his long and disruptive career. :eyes:
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM
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45. Racist? oh hell yes... "They call me Senator Obama!" nm.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM
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46. No. He didn't say "That BLACK One".
What he said and how he said it was disrespectful, rude, and patronizing. People will see it for what it was.. petty and dumb. No need to pile on and cover it up... let it be what it is.
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mr1956 Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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47. No, but very condescending and dismissive
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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48. No, just disrespectful. Ain't that enough?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:26 PM
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49. I heard the dog-whistle.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM by backscatter712
Any racism insinuated, of course, is quite deniable, but the remark was definitely rude and disrespectful. And I'm sure the submessage reached its intended audience.

McCain was a real prick tonight.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:26 PM
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50. Combined with his refusal to shake Mr. Obama's hand at the end of the debate, yes.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM by political_Dem
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:26 PM
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51. It was certainly demeaning
I generally don't refer to human beings as "that one." I give them the courtesy of using personal pronouns.
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM
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52. We don't need to make a big deal about it being Racist or not.
That might be turned on us a using the "race" card.

It's sufficicient to point out that it was rude, demeaning and full of disrespect for a Presidential candidate. Play it as an example of McCain's temperment, not as a racist remark. Works better for us.
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Dem_4_Life Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM
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53. Yes
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:39 PM
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54. I don't think so,
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:41 PM by DiktatrW
Remember he was a Naval Aviator, and most of these pricks treat everyone below their perceived class the same regardless of skin color.

Trust me, been there, been called worse, and I'm white.

Edit: It was more a diss to the working class without a billion in the bank.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:40 PM
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55. Absolutely it is.
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