Huge GOP friend just emailed me.........

[KansasVoter]

Said McCain is DONE and desperate. He said McCain should have picked Romney!!

This is the last guy in the world who I expected to say this.

Wow.........wow!

[RoadRage]

1. Who's he voting for...

McCain in spite of everything...

Obama because he's seen the light...

3rd Party candidate just to show his frustration...

Saving Gas money and staying home... ?

[KansasVoter]

3. He will vote McCain for the Taxes lie that he believes. But he said he is donating NO more money!

[CrispyQ]

14. If he gets company paid health benefits,

you might consider sending him McCain's health plan - particularly the section regarding taxing the company paid preimums like income. I've sent that to a few undecideds & they were horrified. For those with company paid benefits, it's a huge tax bite.


McCain Health Plan Could Mean Higher Tax
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/us/politics/01mccain.html

snip...

ALLENTOWN, Pa. — Though Senator John McCain has promised to not raise taxes, his campaign acknowledged Wednesday that the health plan he outlined this week would have the effect of increasing tax payments for some workers, primarily those with high incomes and expensive health plans.

The campaign cannot yet project how many taxpayers might see their taxes go up, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Mr. McCain’s top domestic policy adviser. But Mr. Holtz-Eakin said in an interview that for some, Mr. McCain’s health care tax credits would not be large enough to compensate for his proposal to eliminate the tax breaks afforded to workers with employer-provided health benefits.

[demmiblue]

22. Send him the tax calculator!

http://www.electiontaxes.com/


Here is a video link from our local channel with a clip that they aired last week:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7558567&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Aloha Spirit]

28. cool! thanks

[speedoo]

2. He's absolutely right. nt

[HughMoran]

4. He's HUGH!11!!

Is he really huge?

:rofl:

[dkf]

5. Any serious Republican would swap Romney for Palin in a second.

I know my boss shut up on politics due to Palin's pick.

I stay away from the subject cuz I feel sorry for him.

[elocs]

6. I have a best friend who bleeds Republican, has been a traditional Republican all his life,

and he refuses to vote for McCain. He has conceded that the Republicans are going to get wiped out in this election and I think that he and others like him may believe this is not a bad thing. They believe that the Republican party has been hijacked by the neocons and evangelicals and by losing it might be an opportunity for the Republican party to be rebuilt more along its traditional lines.

[Rambis]

10. Ditto

I know a guy who resigned from the republican central committee of which he has been a member for years. "those crazy religious fucks have taken over and I won't support them with my time or my money"
He is a Catholic, goes to church every Sunday and volunteers for all kinds of causes through church.

[Demi_Babe]

7. AWESOME

[customerserviceguy]

8. It could still happen

not for VP of course, that's not happening. But what if McLame announces that Mittens is going to be his Treasury Secretary? That position might well be the most powerful one in the government, no matter who gets elected. Sen. Obama would be under pressure to announce his Treasury pick, and we'd be in for some heavy scrutiny of that person.

The fundies don't want to give Mormon missionaries the talking point of the presidency or vice-presidency, but they wouldn't balk at a Mormon for the Cabinet, we've already had a couple of them at that level of government. Mittens might even swing Michigan back to McInsane's way.

Any ideas who might be a good Treasury secretary in an Obama administration?

[sallyseven]

15. It is not to anyone's advantage for

Romney to be Sec. of the Treasury. He wants to be president and will not take a lesser role. His ego won't let him and he would be lousy at it. You would end up hating Romney after all is said and done.

[customerserviceguy]

16. I agree, Mittens has an ego

but let's face it, we just voted for a bailout bill that makes the US Secretary of the Treasury the most powerful person in America. The ability to divert hundreds of billions of dollars to reward your friends, or punish your enemies (especially when either group is on the ropes) is unparalleled in its immensity.

It would be the ultimate trophy for an egomaniac. Besides, Romney sees himself as the savior of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics. Being able to preside over an economic recovery puts him in a great position for the 2012 nomination should McLame decide not to run again. Mooselini will be up on her current events and geography exams by that point, but she still would have zero accomplishments as VP. I lived in Utah, and I fear the Mormons way more than I fear the fundies, especially a Western fundie (as opposed to a Southern fundie).

[CTyankee]

19. Bob Rubin. He could come back if his country called him to service.

Rubin was great. He guided the Clinton Administration to the greatest overcome of the deficit and the greatest surplus in the history of the United States. Pretty good, if you ask me.

Get that guy back in control. Let's see how he does business!

[customerserviceguy]

21. I wish Sen. Obama had named him during last night's debate

while McLame telegraphed his choice of Meg Whitman, pretty appropriate for a country the Repukes have reduced to the status of a garage sale.

[Alcibiades]

9. I was afraid of Romney

Ultimately I think he was not chosen not just because he and McCain hate each other, but because he seems more presidential--hell, Huckabee seems more presidential.

Romney would have been a slam dunk for them. Glad it's Palin, whose selection is a gimmick.

[LibraLiz1973]

12. Had he chosen Romney, we would have been in deep shit.

Luckily for us, he chose Caribou Barbie.

[customerserviceguy]

17. She guarantees the Southern states will go for McLame

but the fundies of the Bible Belt despise Mormons. He might have pulled Michigan in the North, but that's about it. Most wingnuts would have been far less enthusiastic about voting for a ticket where both candidates are considered liberal by their standards.

CB really does bring them out, they're hoping she's enough of a (dare I use the word?) maverick to be able to keep McInsane in line when he veers too far to the left. They're really only reassured that she could be his attendant, and up his meds when he goes off message!

[Alcibiades]

18. She guarantees nothing of the sort

First off, she talks funny. She may be just folks, but she's not our kind of folks. Most southerners don't play hockey. She is an alien creature to us.

Many southerners will vote for anyone with an accent, but it has to be the right kind of accent. Palin may be a redneck, but she's a Yankee redneck. Alaska: hard to get much more northern than that.

I thought Romney would have been better because he's articulate, good looking an a Neanderthal brow ridge sort of way, would pull in support from economic conservatives, and, yes, would help in Michigan. Palin helps in Alaska, maybe anywhere else where folks sound like the characters in Fargo. Romney's a Mormon, but it's not as if the folks who won't vote for the Mormon are going to turn around and vote for the negro, or stay at home and assure he wins: the Republicans have the racist vote sewn up, no matter what.

I'm not convinced Mitt would have taken it, anyway: being part of a losing ticket would hurt his chances of being the nominee in 2012, and I think we can all agree Romney will be very interested in that.

[customerserviceguy]

23. I haven't noticed

a lot of animosity between Westerners (I'm one, having lived in WA state for 37 years) and Southerners. I do know that Southerners don't really like Northerners making fun of their accents, or thinking them stupid because of them, so Palin gets a bit of a sympathy vote there. I don't know if they regard her as a Midwesterner (like from "Fargo") or as a Westerner, that remains to be seen.

I do see McInsane taking all of the Southern states except for Florida, Virginia, and Missouri (a border state, really), but he's going to lose most Midwestern states, all the Northeastern states, and all of the West Coast states (except Alaska). By the time they get to counting the relatively few electoral votes from the Mountain West states, it's going to be clearly over.

[Alcibiades]

24. As a southerner

I can tell you that we don't think of the west much at all. Palin sounds like some sort of northerner to us. Alaska certainly counts as a northern state, even though it wasn't in the union (hell, we hadn't even bought it) in 1865. She's a hockey mom, ergo a Yankee.

To the extent that there's some division between western and easter Yankees, we don't get it. They're all yankees.

You're right: Missouri's not southern, except for the southern bit, and the rest of the state outside of Kansas City and St. Louis. Florida and Virgina, while historically southern, are no longer southern: Florida has not been southern for 20 years, and Virginia is in the process of becoming non-southern. North Carolina is also in the process of becoming non-southern, BTW, as our leading source of immigration has been New York. These folks have come down and brought their Democratic voting habits with them, and been welcomed by legions of Andy Griffith Democrats such as myself. When you look at the voter reg numbers in NC, it looks really, really ripe for an upset.

I do think, however, the rest of the south will go GOP, but then Palin had nothing to do with that. Anyone who thought Georgia was in play was high at the time. All we need to do, however, all we ever needed to do, was shave off a state or two, and I think it will be VA, possibly NC.

[customerserviceguy]

26. But would you agree with me

that McInsane's southern fundamentalist base would have voted for Bob Barr (or some other meaningless third party) if Mitt had been on the ticket? I spend a fair amount of time over in Freeptard land, and the fundies really really hate Romney. It could have tipped some Southern states into the Obama camp, especially NC, possibly Georgia as well.

[Alcibiades]

31. Only out of ignorance

They don't particularly agree with the libertarian stances on most social issues. Some will vote Barr, but I think they would suck it up and vote McCain/Romney. Now if the alternative to McCain was someone like Huckabee and not a party that wants to decriminalize drugs and prostitution, then I think you've have something.

Even more important in swinging these elections, I think, are upper middle class white voters who are not apeshit crazy but who are a little right of center. The ones who are anti tax, but pro choice, or not anti gun control, or pro law and order but against the destruction of civil liberties. The sort of moderate responsible middle class voters who have felt safe voting Republican. At some point, they have to realize "damn, the GOP is nothing but wedge issues and are irresponsible--maybe it's time to vote Democratic at the presidential level." The Freepers belong to the GOP--it's sort of like the PUMAs, they may be a little angry, but where are they going to go? Until the KKK and the evangelicals form their own party, the Freepers cannot afford to vote 3rd party. The sweet spot for us are moderate republicans, especially fiscal conservatives who are a little socially liberal. These are the defectors from the GOP McCain's camp probably are shitting bricks over losing, because there simply are not enough freepers to make up for them, no matter how much someone like Palin might "energize the base."

Again, they may botch about Romney, but they would vote for him if he were the nominee, even if at the top of the ticket.

[customerserviceguy]

32. I guess we'll have a chance to see

since McInsane is going down in flames. The two front-runners for the Repuke nomination will be Romney ("I told you so") and Palin ("It wasn't my fault we lost"), and we can see who does better in Southern primaries. My prediction is that Caribou Barbie comes out on top there, not sure how Mitt is going to play in the rest of the country, but he'll probably do OK in the Northeast, the Midwest, and the Mountain West. He stopped spending money early enough in the game to keep some for four years from now, and I predict he's learned from his mistakes in Iowa.

I do see a lot of Freeptards just shrugging their shoulders especially in states that were 100% safe for either McLame or Obama, and voting 3rd party as a sort of "protest". It doesn't matter if they like Bob Barr or libertarian principles, it would be an anguished cry at the GOP party system that saddled them with a bumbling old man.

[iceman66]

27. Romney would have helped him a lot in Nevada too.

I'm relieved he didn't pick someone more moderate because that would have attracted a lot of independents in the swing states.

[Cosmocat]

30. I agree with the other poster AND ...

Palin is no great southern draw, AND what love they have for her they would have had for ANY VP pick, including Romney.

There is something A LOT closer to the devil to these nutjobs than even Mormons, and that is DEMOCRATS, they would swoon over Benedict Arnold himself if he was an R before they would give up their vote in any way to a D.

The IMAGE of Palin isn't it, they would have created some messianic image of WHOEVER the VP pick was.

[damonm]

25. No we would not -

Mittens was the ONLY GOP candidate who flipflopped more than McSame. He was for Gun Control, Civil unions, AND choice - all before he decided he wanted to be Prez and did a 180 on all of those.

[Cosmocat]

29. ABSOLUTELY, Romney would have been trouble ...

WITHOUT the stock market plunge/banks failing.

[LibraLiz1973]

11. The most Republican person I know- a TOTAL GOP FREAK!- is furious with McCain

for picking Palin. He says those religious nuts need to be ejected from the party.
He was a Romney supporter to begin with. so he has no time for McCain.
He wont vote for them this time. Sitting it out.

[Alter Ego]

13. Is your friend huge?

Or is he Hugh?

[Matariki]

20. What do you mean by 'huge'?

Is he tall? High up in the GOP? Rabid Republican?