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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 08:43 AM
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Poisoning the Well...the McCain Strategy for 2012
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 08:44 AM by peacetrain
All republicans at this point know that it is over. They know they are going to lose. The only thing they can do is try and lessen the spread.

But before they go, they are going to "poison the well" for the democrats. They are going to try and set up Obama like they did Clinton.

They want to poison the electorate against Obama, so they can come back in after Obama and the democrats clean up the mess, this group has left.

If you ever listen close, you will hear it more than once from the hell hounds of talk radio. That this is their opportunity to "clean house", as they call it.

That is why it is so important for Obama to hit back now,. and the timing is perfect. This idea that the democrats would not hold McCains feet to the fire. when he started this, shows how delusional the right has become about those on the left. They think we will roll over and play dead with their new tactic.

Going to be an interesting 2 or 3 weeks to be sure. But we are ready,

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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 08:57 AM
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1. That's what Gore/Kerry should have done to Bush in 2000/2004!
If you're going to go down, you should do damage to your opponent on the way down. That's the way you win a war while losing a battle.

Instead, our side usually prefers to lose on the high road.

Let's hope Obama doesn't fall for that bullshit. Take them out, destroy them, and even if you are going to lose, do as much damage to them as you can on the way down. That's the way you play in politics.
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jacksonian Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:04 AM
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2. No, both Gore and Kerry had shots at winning at the end
and both probably actually did win. Different situation completely than knowing you're dead meat.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:05 AM
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3. If there's a McCain strategy for 2012, it won't be with McCain
Hell, he'll be 76 years old in 2012. :scared:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:16 AM
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4. Its not McCain, or even Palin for that matter.. it is just a republican
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 09:19 AM by peacetrain
strategy. McCain is being "advised" by the neo cons of bush. They are going to try and do enough of an all out smear on all democrats, so that people first of all will not go with a progressive agenda. They are going to make sure of that if they can.

But if we get it cleaned up , like we did with Clinton, then they can step back in and try and take credit.

They are bloodsucker non stop.

Its all they have, they are leeches

Let me add,,that is their last ditch goal. They are going to attempt this. But again, they are drinking their own kool aid on how we will let it pass again. That is the meme on democrats, we cannot play in that mud and mire.

Well we are not going to play in it, like they want, we are going to BURY them in their own muck and mire.


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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:19 AM
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6. They can't take credit if we clean it up
They will have no power. All they can do is nitpick at the things that are still bad.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:23 AM
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7. Duplicate post
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 09:26 AM by peacetrain
Finger hiccups.. :) sorry about that
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:23 AM
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8. This is not just about Obama.. they are going to try an pull
a 1994 plus and get back the congress so they can pull down Obama from the congressional well also. The are so damn predictable. And how they do it, if they cannot win, they will slash and burn the fields of congress so to speak

Now it has worked before, but I do not think it will work this time. But they are getting nasty
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:18 AM
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5. I'd agree, except for the one remaining political paradigm:
Presidential elections involving an incumbent are nearly always a referendum on the incumbent's performance.

This means, essentially, that whomever runs against Obama in 2012 won't be able to use hardly any of what's happening now against him. Simply put, none of it will matter - Americans will judge whether or not Obama gets another term almost solely on whether or not the country's in better shape now than it was before. The only way this paradigm is broken is in the face of a tragedy, which nearly always benefits the incumbent (see: Bush 2004.)
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:25 AM
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9. Bush, Mccain and Palin are all toxic. GOP have to focus on 2010 congressional gains...
And they are obviously at a loss with how to handle the bleeding.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:27 AM
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10. I agree,, I think they are shocked ..they did not think
Keating would be coming their way. This is a last ditch effort on their part.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:27 AM
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11. It's an ancient war tactic. Catapult dead animals over the castle wall...
Maybe you get lucky and one goes down the well. Bad water, not to mention a courtyard filled with dead animals; and soon the people come out.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:28 AM
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13. That is exactly it!! You said it better than me NT
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:20 AM
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14. Best post of the year!
The entire election summed up, and yet I'm somehow reminded of Monty Python.
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obiden Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:27 AM
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12. Yeah slam the bastards high
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