It was a good speech.

[Kimber Scott]

I usually can't stand to listen to Bush, but the last 10 minutes of the speech was very powerful. If anybody was hoping he was going to bomb this and hand the election to Kerry, it didn't happen. The convention up to this point was horrific, crass and hateful. During the part of the speech where Bush mocked Kerry, if I was in a focus group I would have turned the nob all the way down. The majority of the speech was robotic and repetitive, but he found it at the end. It's still a fight. The ball's back in Kerry's court.

[BlueStateGirl]

1. Last ten minutes were good. He got better after the protestors.

[WI_DEM]

2. Well I luckily missed the speech

but thanks for your honest perspective. This is why we can't underestimate this chimp. We have to raise the expectations for the debate as well.

[JI7]

6. agree

we need to view it not from how we feel or see things but from what those who aren't partisans would see it since those are the ones who easily go from one candidate to the other.

[Chomskyite]

3. I agree

The passage about his emotion when families who'd lost members to war or terror was very well written and Bush also displayed some pretty sincere emotion there. It was one of the only moments in the convention that may play to an audience not in the GOP base.

[Kimber Scott]

19. Exactly. At first, I didn't even want to watch it because he usually

sends me over the edge with anger, but I did my best to listen with an open mind. I also thought it was interesting to watch the audience. They are very devoted. Some looked like they were viewing the Messiah.

I don't know, if this is a problem, or not. I don't know many people as "religious" in their devotion to Kerry. I like Kerry. I had thought to support Kerry before Clark came along, then went back to Kerry, but I don't feel the kind of connection with him, Bush's audience seem to feel with Bush.

I wanted to try to understand this devotion and it is pretty obvious, it's all predicated on fear and the belief Bush can protect them.

[slojim240]

40. But this is the shit that they all complained about when Clinton did it?

What planet are you folks living on. There is no place for "sensitivity" or emotion with the Rethugs. You are falling for this shit and it blows my mind. No wonder the polls show Bush will win.
I can't believe it. You whimpy whimps. Wait until Rush gets through with you tomorrow.

[qwertyMike]

4. Sentimental Rhetoric

He ever go to a veteran's funeral?


He doesn't give a SHIT

[Kimber Scott]

8. I didn't say it was true, just good.

nt

[Blue_Roses]

46. that's what good speech writers are for

have you ever heard Bush speak off the cuff? Did you hear him speak to to the 5000 journalists a few weeks ago... a disaster. Anybody can have a good speech writer write for them Will Pitt could have written a better speech than bush READ tonight, but it doesn't mean he will follow though. Pure bullshit.

[earthside]

5. Nah

Even if you concede that Bush finally got a bit emotional in the last ten minutes and got better ... the subject was war, war, war.

Not very "hopeful".

No flubs, but mostly a downer of a speech.

[bigtree]

7. The truthout team's perspective on the speech

http://www.truthout.org/rnc04.shtml

[sonicx]

9. Bush did the same fake emotions stuff right after 9/11

"we will *hold back tears* not relent"

[sffreeways]

30. That's not empathy

that pouty I'm gonna cry look is guilt.

[LisaL]

10. Does it really matter what he says?

Because we all know what he does.:eyes:

[WillyT]

11. If Somebody Purposefully Yanks On My Heartstrings...

I truly don't care what tune they play. I ain't buying.

I'll get emotional when I feel like it's TRULY coming from THEIR heart. Not when I think they've come after mine!!!

No... Way...

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. I agree. Kerry will have to keep working for it cause the sheeple heard

what they thought was a terrific speech.

---------------------------------------------------------------
And God told His children: "I love you. Play nice."

Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm

[Sparkly]

13. I disagree. I felt deeply offended

that he stood on the graves and sacrifices of generations of Americans and tried to tie it to the immoral, disgraceful actions of his administration.

[democratreformed]

24. I only saw the last few minutes and I felt NOTHING.

There was absolutely NO emotion coming from that man. Then, he would pause every once in a while and give some weird, fake, crooked half-smile. That made it seem even LESS emotional.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

14. Did we listen to the same speech?

I thought it was one of his worst. Kerry's going to have him for lunch in the debates.

[mzmolly]

15. That it was ... to bad it's filled with empty rhetoric, lies and a plan

for more wars.

"America is called to lead the world in it's fight for Democracy." ~ hmmmmm

[RummyTheDummy]

16. Bullshit

If it was good, the delegates wouldn't have acted like they were at a wake. Very little energy in the hall.

[TheWebHead]

17. good not great

it was too long... avoided several of Bush's weaknesses.

[newsguyatl]

18. i thought he started off well

but just before the protestor and there after, it fell apart. the latter portion sounded too much like his stumps "terra terra, 9/11, saddam," blah... he read it very robotic -- AND WE WIll...... NEVER STOP..... OUR FIGHT.... AGAINST EVIL...

he tripped up about 6 times to my counting...

the ending was nice, but just poetic, nothing more than rhetoric.

overall, a c-

not a blunder, but certainly nothing to sway independants.

[Kimber Scott]

31. Funny, I thought the beginning was pretty stale.

It was at the end he seemed to melt into it.

Don't anybody get me wrong. Nothing Bush could say would make me vote for him. I'm just trying to look at this the way a non-political junkie might look at it and I really think I could have made an impact on some of them. Does it mean I think he will win? No. I'm counting on Kerry to come out, guns blazing, and start putting this thing in the bag. I'm hoping. But, I have to give credit where credit is due.

[bushwakker]

20. B+

very bad start - even fred barnes didn't like the first 30 mins. some compelling rhetoric near the end. some humor and humility go a long way. they will be up 7-10 points now.

[Crunchy Frog]

21. For me to POOP on!

[Kool Kitty]

26. My thoughts exactly. n/t

[complain jane]

39. Thank you

I love Triumph!

[NinetySix]

22. I just don't know why he ended with 'vagina.'

n/t

[NMDemDist2]

41. ROFL jon stewart strikes again n/t

[LTR]

23. It was what I expected

Decent, but not great.

I said before that it was the best speech of the Convention, but that isn't saying much.

It was still too predictable. 75 minutes of cliches, catchphrases and assorted Bushisms.

In Bush's defense, he is capable of giving a good speech. His address before Congress following 9/11 was very good (don't flame me please). Tonight was the same ol' same ol'.

[lagniappe]

25. I thought it was average. It was very flat in the beginning and

ended a little better. The hypocrisy of him criticizing Hollywood when their star speaker was the Terminator is just amazing.

[guitar man]

27. Ok, it was a good speech

you know what to do Triumph!

[Kimber Scott]

35. ROFLMAO!

nt

[guitar man]

37. Triumph is my new partner!

He's going to help keep me sane until after the election. He even has a neat feature on his website that lets you poop on websites you don't like. Like this.

http://www.formetopoopon.com/poop.php?url=georgewbush.com&you=&friend=&x=117&y=29

[Connie_Corleone]

28. I agree.

I hate saying that, but the last 10 minutes were the best minutes of the speech. The rest was just a bunch of empty rhetoric and hollow promises.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

29. Very little real substance or details

but the moments where Bush tried to explain his swagger as Texas walkin', his poor English usage, and the fact he gets his bluntness from his Stormtrooper Mama will probably play well in the dueling-banjo areas of the United States.

[Bucky]

32. Agreed. He did what he needed to do. But the lack of substance hurts him

He's not a fuck up when it comes to marketing himself. Only when it comes to managing the people's business. But they're leaving too much unsaid. These glittering generalities will give him a bump, but they won't win deep support.

[Gregorian]

33. It was good in that it proved that he can actually read.

The reading chimp!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

34. Oh the part where he

raised up his voice when he was doing Kerry?

Oh yeah, ICK. That would turn me off even if I didn't vote, I hate that kind of infantile behavior in adults.

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[burrowowl]

38. Somebody gave it a C-

about right, but the Sheeple are not enarmored of real rhetoric and will think it just great.:(

[Javaman]

42. I have a new nick name for moron after that speech he gave...

Mr Cardboard. They just paint on him the message that he has to say and poof, oh look, emotions.

Mr. Cardboard says, "it's time to feel sad"

Mr. Cardboard says, "it's time to get angry. Grrrrr"

Mr. Cardboard says, "it's time for payback"

they just switch out the chip in his head to display emotions.

Mr. Cardboard...

[burrowowl]

50. As I said

how many of the sheeple are going to swallow it.
I hope not many.
Good synopsis of speech.

[acmavm]

43. Good. Well he's always been a good liar, even a great one.

.

[Quixote1818]

44. Luckily a lot of people tuned out before the last 10 minutes.

The speech was too long and the best part was probably not heard by one hell of a lot of people who can only listen for so long. I have to admit that I think it will help him some but by the time the debates happen reality will have set back in. Kerry will tear Bush apart in the debates and it will be ours to loose.

[MadHound]

45. I've got to give him credit, he was coherent for the most part

He has improved his syntax, pronouciation, enunciation, body motions, the rythym and mechanics of delivering a public speech. He delivered a B-B+ in the technical aspects of speech, if you are a sophmore speech student.

However, his content is same ol' same ol' Bush. Animated and alive when speaking of death and destruction, stilted and stale when speaking of domestic issues. Lots of code talk, first to his financial backers in the form of "cutting medical liability"(AMA, insurance industry), "increase domestic energy production"(big oil) and the combination of "simplifying the tax code" and "making the tax cut permanent"(Yeah! A nice regressive flat tax:eyes:)

He was also once again code talking to the radical RW Christians, with phrases such as "we can see the valley below" and "from beyond the stars", though there was hardly any need to make things so obtuse, given his publicly stated stance vis a vis religion. No, I think he was diddling the Apocalyptic faithful, tantalizing their visions of death and rapture. After all, it all does fit so nicely in with his plan to "bring freedom to all corners of the Middle East"(while stealing all of their oil). A nice whiff of rapture in the air will comfort these poor folk when the man calls up their sons and daughters in the military draft needed to fulfill his dreams of empire and oil.

All in all, another signature Bush speech, minus the stutters and gaffes. The two protesters did throw him off stride(bless their brave hearts and give them strength), but he recovered well. And like all of his other speeches, it leaves me cold and shaking my head in wonder at the number of people this man has managed to charm. Any half way intelligent person could see through his act, yet time after time, he proves the old adage that yes, indeed, a sucker is born every minute.

[blondeatlast]

48. Wow--that was fast... nt

[MadHound]

49. Thank you,

I think?!

[blondeatlast]

47. Specifically--what was good about it?

C,mon, you can do better than that...