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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:27 PM
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Email I rec'd today, need good rebuttal -
My dad is a libertarian but is also quite anti-Obama. I'd love a few quips in response to the following:

143 days .....

You couldn't be a new lawyer with 143 days of experience and become a partner in any law firm.

You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.

You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.

You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.

BUT....

'From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of "experience" in the Senate.
That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work "experience," Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World ..... 143 days.

We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a start. AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America ?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:31 PM
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1. my advice
delete it and stop posting it around
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:32 PM
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6. Oh Noes!!
Not before you mess with their minds...at least a little bit!!!
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:33 PM
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8. That's the plan.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:17 PM
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19. What a breath of fresh air!
thank you for your post!

What the hell is going on around here on DU? I just don't get it.

What is the utility in posting these things here???
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:31 PM
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2. Snopes and and be sure to "reply to all"
if there are other email addresses available.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:32 PM
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4. Thank you. He's never uses BCC so I have them all. LOL nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:31 PM
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3. You couldn't become chief of surgery if you came 894/899 in your class
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:32 PM
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5. Aw, jeez, this shit again.
:hurts:

So his community work doesn't count? His time in the IL Legislature?
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:34 PM
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10. I know. It's ridiculous.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:33 PM
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7. So this assumes what? That he just walked out of the void when
he was elected to the senate? He has no history beyond that? Okay. Whatever.

And what do you mean by "A libertarian BUT he's also anti-Obama?" Libertarians are the worst sort of economic free-marketeers. As the saying goes, a libertarian is just a republican who wants to smoke pot and screw prostitutes. Or, as I refer to them, libertarians are the spoiled 8 year olds of the political sphere...
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:35 PM
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11. His libertarian views about gov't don't apply to his anti-obama. His views are blatant racism
and I'm completely aware of that.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:34 PM
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9. Plain and simple answer
The Presidency is not a job. Obama ran; he got the nomination. If he wins the election; he's president. It's a vote, not a decision by a higher up who also works in or owns a company.

also, the Failin' the Republicans have given up that card.

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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:35 PM
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12. Thank you!
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:27 PM
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20. Also
It is not simply a question of experience. Obama's qualifications extend beyond his time in the Senate. You have to consider his years in the Illinois State Legislature, 12 years as a constitutional law professor, Harvard law review, etc.

Also, Obama has demonstrated better judgment on issues like the Iraq war than many others with more Washington experience.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:28 PM
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21. Thank you. I sent that. I think he's pissed at me now. I know it's an attempt
at futility.

Here's part of what I responded with as well:
I suspect that the anti-Obama rants are either blatant or an attempt at making inconspicuous a racist POV. The second McCain chose Palin the whole non-experience rants from the right should have mellowed considerably. Certainly a more compelling argument would have been about issues and not his experience?
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Captain Sensible Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:36 PM
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13. Bill Gates was CEO of Microsoft right out of college!!!!
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:33 PM
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25. Bill dropped out. Didn't graduate. nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:36 PM
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14. How many days experience does "1 heart attack away from pres" Lipstick have?
snopes.com
Aside from "you couldn't"s being false, since you could, and how many days does Lipstick have, and the "143 days work experience" being a lie, send him snopes.com and reply all.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:46 PM
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17. I already went after the Palin part of the package deal.
It seems to have shut him up but maybe he quit reading my responses. LOL
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:41 PM
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15. Lincoln
was in the Illinois House and then served one single term in the US Congress before being elected President.
Not enough experience?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:46 PM
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16. 143 days is all Obama needs. The other guy
hasn't learned anything in 26 or 27 years.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:47 PM
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18. That would fall on deaf ears. Hahahahhaa!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:31 PM
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22. Days of experience AS PRESIDENT anybody has when running for what would be their first term? Zero.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:32 PM
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24. Ewww good one~!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:32 PM
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23. Better to have a serial crasher of airplanes with a bad temper who
was almost last in his class? I guess Libertarian dad won't be taking his social security or any of those other leftie, socialist programs, either. Like John McCain, I'm sure he wants to put his faith in the stock market.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:35 PM
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27. Wrong! He's been pulling SS now for over 3 yrs.
I always said he's claiming Libertarian so if something goes wrong (like with bush) he doesn't feel compelled to accept responsibility for being a republican! LOL He's now anti-bush as well but still gung ho McCain.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:22 PM
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37. Send him the Rolling Stone article.
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Frumious B Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:33 PM
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26. It's game seven of the World Series.
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 03:33 PM by Frumious B
Your options for starting pitcher are a rookie fireballer with a 97MPH heater who went 10-2 with an ERA of 2.08 after being called up from the minors just after the All Star break and a 15 year MLB veteran who went 11-14 for you this season with an ERA of 4.32. Which pitcher would you pick to give you the best chance of winning?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:45 PM
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29. Love It!
Dump McSchilling and put in ObamaBillingsley
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applexcore Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:35 PM
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28. Thats only his time in the US senate (of days actually worked)
It doesn't count his 8 years and thousands of votes at the state level.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:46 PM
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30. Nobody would hire a 72 year old
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 03:46 PM by Nevernose
Would you let a 72 year old perform surgery on you?
Would you be happy if your local school board hired a 72 year old to be the superintendent?
Would you hire a 72 year old with a history of medical problems to run the world's biggest corporation?
Would the military even let a 72 year old still be on active duty, even as a rear officer?

Obama has a lot more than 143 days of experience, by the way. Ten years or so was spent in public service, but the rest was in the private sector. John McCain's spent his entire life -- from the womb until today -- sucking from the public teat.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:47 PM
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31. I keep hammerin' him. If I hear back this is next. Thank you!
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:50 PM
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32. It's simply going to happen
Obama is going to win. That's your rebuttal.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:51 PM
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33. :o)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:52 PM
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34. Who would he rather be the pilot of his flight
McCain with all his 'experience', or Obama after 143 days of flight training?

I'll go with the rookie that doesn't have tons of crumpled aluminum as part of his resume, thankyouverymuch.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:59 PM
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35. Here Ya Go:
He finished #1 in his class at Harvard Law, and became the first black president of the harvard law review.

He's worked in the community as an organizer, helping those disenfranchised organize to obtain rights.

He was a CONSTITUTIONAL LAW professor for 12 YEARS.

He was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years in a state with over 13 million people and passed mabny reforms such as historic healthcare reform in the state.

He served in the U.S. Senate for 4 years, where he has served on the Foreign Relations Committee.

He has passed bi-partisan legislation on ethics as well as legislation keeping nukes out of the hands of terrorists.

He's run a flawless presidential campaign for 2 years that defeated the "inevitable" clinton machine.

I think he can handle it.

(also mention he's had more experience than Lincoln had when he was elected)


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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:02 PM
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36. Cool stuff. Thank you!
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