Some DUer's have proven that even attacking a six-year-old girl is not off the table.

[Danger Mouse]

Each and every one of you engaging in such garbage should be ashamed of yourselves, if you have any shame.
Which doesn't seem likely.
EDIT: Here's the original picture, for anybody too brain dead to figure out that the picture was photoshopped:
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/large_photo.php?id=175

[emilyg]

1. Yep.

[Sugarcoated]

2. I have to agree

When the thread first popped up here I called my daughter over to show her and of course she was appalled. As the thread continued it was shown to be photoshopped so now I have to go back and tell her it wasn't true and it makes us look bad. She went out right after and I hope she didn't pass this on to anyone.

[Danger Mouse]

6. This kind of shit does make us look bad. Especially the assholes...

who tear down the people pointing out that it's a photoshop. Which means they WANT it to be true.

[seabeyond]

3. yup. just the total breakdown in society of personal responsibility

everything is acceptable. no personal boundaries.

decency is no longer a word we use

[MNDemNY]

4. Jeez...lightn the f up.

[seabeyond]

5. no. grow the fuck up. n/t

[MNDemNY]

22. Blah...blah...blah

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[seabeyond]

41. yada yada yada

[MNDemNY]

45. E I E I O !!!!!

[seabeyond]

50. just to silliness.... lol. n/t

[Danger Mouse]

7. Making fun of a kid isn't funny to me.

At all.
But you guys go ahead.

[Whisp]

14. not to me either - it's disgusting behaviour to pick on a child.

[MNDemNY]

21. Do you really think the kid is looking at liberal websites????

That spawn of palin needs some re-education. Hopefully she will get it before she becomes the creationist freak her parents are.

[Name removed]

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[MNDemNY]

28. Maybe we should lay off Sarah, too, she is obviously disabled.

Making fun of someone who is a victim of religion should be off-limits. As well as making fun of the old and sick.

[Danger Mouse]

30. Maybe you should lay off the freepers. You love their tactics so much.

[MNDemNY]

37. They are mind-addled, and mostly 6 years old,...

so by your logic I guess we should!!!:P :P :P

[roguevalley]

95. little kids are off limits or did Chelsea being called a dog strike you

as funny?

[Sugarcoated]

It's not right when Repub's do it

not right when we do.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. i told you sometimes we are as classless and tacky and essentially lacking in taste and empathy

as freepers.

sometimes, esp in this forum, i dont see the big difference

[Danger Mouse]

this is definitely one of those moments.

:hug:

[pecwae]

87. What you said.

Definitely what you said.

[time disk]

132. Are you decrying the fact we are all just human beings,

two sides of the same coin?

[dorktv]

9. Can we make fun of that thing that Gov. Palin is wearing at least?

[Sugarcoated]

10. It's superficial and subjective

but not the same as going after a kid.

[dorktv]

29. I know but who wears something that lame? Seriously!

[Hepburn]

Looks like a housecoast, IMO...

...can I give it the finger? :evilgrin:

[Hepburn]

15. Looks like a housecoast, IMO...

...can I give it the finger? :evilgrin:

[Quantess]

20. Her cutesy, whimsical jacket?

Looks like children's clothing in adult size.

[faithfulcitizen]

49. you mean rainbow bright coat? yes.

:)

[WorseBeforeBetter]

85. Particularly since she thinks she's some sort of fashion maven.

I initially couldn't get past anything the little girl was doing thanks to that jacket.

What is the problem with the little girl? She appears to be giving the peace sign and stink eyes to some little boy. Is that what all the fuss is about? I think she looks cute -- she's a kid being a kid.

[Quantess]

90. Many schools teach that gesture to mean "be quiet".

Including some schools I worked at.
I'll bet $1 she was making the "be quiet" sign to the boy, while the band was playing.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

101. That makes perfect sense then.

I'm astonished at how whipped into a frenzy many DUers are over a little girl in a Photoshopped pic. Definitely a low point for this site.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

111. I was taught that it is the equivalent of the middle finger

In the UK. So I still think it's rude.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

117. Can yes, should no.

Doing so is contemptable and counterproductive, and anyone who does so should be ashamed of themself, but it's not forbidden.

[Hippo_Tron]

126. I was about to say, I have no idea what he's talking about, but Palin in that jacket is hilarious

I suppose she thinks it's the official Hockey Mom uniform or something.

[dorktv]

127. Even the pitbull she compares herself too says that thing is tasteless.

[aasleka]

11. even if it wasn't photoshopped it's a 6 year old kid, leave her be she is having a tough time

as it is having her parents busy campaigning.

[Quantess]

12. Thank you.

I'm sure she's a delightful 6 year old, so let's please not make her life any more difficult than it's going to be, given her unenviable situation.

And who knows, she just might turn out to be a sensible person who thinks for herself. She might even grow up to be a liberal.

[Danger Mouse]

16. Children don't always grow up to be like their parents. A lot rebel and become their own people.

It's not fair to assume she's just like her mother. In fact, it's disgusting.

[Me.]

13. I Immediately Disliked McLame In '96 When He Told That Chelsea Clinton Joke

It was, I felt, a revealing moment about his character and he has recently proven that I was correct in my judgment of him. Kids have it hard enough these days. When I saw that little girl trying to take care of her brother I thought she could grow up to be a dem.

[Danger Mouse]

17. Right. We were sick about McCain doing it, yet some on DU see no problem in doing the same..

as long as it's a republican child. I recall people making fun of Rick Santorum's kids when he lost his seat in 2006. Utterly tasteless.

[treestar]

51. The McLame joke was worse, though

Santorum and Palin's kid were in some picture making a certain face. Whereas McLame's smear came out of his head.

So while it's not good to make fun of kids caught in a photo doing something a little off - it's worse to make the kind of crack that McLame did.

Also the DUers are making more fun of the parents, really. I wouldn't do it but others doing it doesn't concern me much. Obama himself would never say anything rotten about these kinds, as McLame had shown himself capable of.

[MNDemNY]

57. You mean this gem!

http://brendancalling.com/2007/10/27/proof-that-pop-country-is-for-idiots/

[QC]

18. Proud to be the 5th rec.

:kick:

[Danger Mouse]

19. Thanks QC.

[IndianaGreen]

24. Sprinkle some holy water on yourself and kindly go away with your piety!

We are at war and that woman Palin will have us all shot if she ever gets the chance!

[Danger Mouse]

25. So that excuses lies about a child? This is the EXACT SAME SHIT that freepers do.

[Name removed]

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[Danger Mouse]

56. Kill the children too?

[IndianaGreen]

69. Liquidated as a class is not killing is just eliminating their class as a whole

They will just be members of the working class, not the parasitic class.

[Name removed]

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[QC]

34. You are right.

Not all freepers are right wing, something we've been reminded of a lot lately.

[Odin2005]

91. For God's sakes, leave the kids out of it.

They didn't choose that wretch to be their mom. Your attitude is disgusting.

[traveller]

116. OP is referring the child.

[cali]

26. k&r. fucking disgusting - whether the photo

was real or not.

[Bucky]

27. no THIS is the original picture HERE

[MNDemNY]

32. And that one is NOT photoshopped!!

}( :toast: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hi:

[Bucky]

35. You are correct. I did not use PhotoShop on this picture

Just don't ask me about MS Paint

[MNDemNY]

38. I will not. Could you add a cigarette to the boy?

[Bucky]

40. Not just to our boy

But to his dog and his role model, too

[MNDemNY]

42. Now THAT"S fuckin' funny.

Better put on your flame suit, friend!:o :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :popcorn:

[Curtland1015]

33. Ah. I see she gets her hands from her Mom's side of the family...

[traveller]

118. Your post is exactly the kind of crap the OP is referring to.

[MNDemNY]

39. I am so ashamed. I shall go hang myself, now.

[chicagoexpat]

43. I'm sorry, I'll stop attacking u, I didn't know u were a 6-year old girl

[Danger Mouse]

54. Hilarious.

[Froward69]

44. In Rome when an assignations happened, it was common

to assassinate the senator's, governor's, and yes the Caesar's children also.

Yes we should behave and Follow the leadership of Obama. However the republicans see an election as a street fight.
Those of us Here at DU are indeed operatives. Therefore we should fight fire with fire. careful to not have our actions associated with Obama in any way.

[Quantess]

48. You can't be serious.

Do you have any idea how insane you sound?

Maybe you are intentionally trying to sound like a moonbat.

[Froward69]

55. What part???

the operatives part?
We both know DU could never organize to defeat nazis as the french Underground did during WWII. however I do work every day to defeat republicans.
Simply sitting here ranting about how rethugs this and fascists that... without doing anything about it, is why Us Dems have the reputation of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. shooting ourselves in both feet.

Me?? I volunteer Mon Wed and Fri at the state party. Tues and Thursday I am at a Hank Eng's campaign office. just about every extra minute i troll around conservative websights/newspapers etc... giving the DEM perspective.

and You?

[Quantess]

79. It's great that you are actively campaigning for Obama---

---as long as you are representing the Democrats in a positive and respectable manner.

In my opinion, anyone who sounds like a stereotypical moonbat (the right wing's stereotype of liberals) ought to stay home and let someone else be an ambassador for Obama.

Obviously, I don't know you, so for all I know, you might be making a really great impression on voters. But, going after a candidate's children, especially young children, is loathsome and inexcusable. And, I'm not sure what good it does to "troll conservative" sites. Looks like you may picking up some bad ideas from them, if you think picking on little kids is okay.

[Danger Mouse]

52. So we should behave but then again we shouldn't behave.

Obama said kids are off-limits.

[MNDemNY]

58. Yes, the campaign should lay off the kids.

I am not the campaign.

[Danger Mouse]

60. He also meant his supporters.

[MNDemNY]

62. Even Obama does not have that much sway.

Sorry, Charlie.;) (a palin wink for you!)

[Froward69]

59. Yeah he did.

The only real attack we have remotely close to sarah's Kids is the "abstinence only" education Issue. and how it works for Sarah?
beyond that i reserve my rants to posting here.

I advocate getting out and doing something, rather than just sitting here bitching.

[MNDemNY]

67. Does that mean I can't ask....

Why Sarah named her kids after sled dogs?:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[Froward69]

74. I thought they

were named after parts of Alaska.

therein begs the question... If she is so fundie, then why arent her kids named after people in the Bible? like Josephus, Adam, Eve, Gilgimesh, Herod, Matthew ,Luke, John, or Jezebel?

Jezebel is fitting for her...
:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

46. It's the Internet, and DU is not some kind of benign Utopia

No matter how much enlightenment and entertainment this site may bring, it will never be perfect, there are assholes here, and they know how to post threads. Sometimes they get tombstoned in short order and sometimes they accumulate 1000+ posts.

It's the Internet.

One of the biggest lessons in life I've learned is that the people who "should be ashamed of themselves" usually are NOT, and they derive an additional amount of pleasure from the people they piss off. They get a big laugh out of people who think they should be ashamed of themselves. It's their own personal "money shot."

Don't give them that pleasure. FUCK them. Put them on ignore, hide their threads, alert the mods, whatever you want to do, but make sure that the underlying theme is FUCK THEM.

Don't waste your time on a very small percentage of assholes.

:patriot:

[Name removed]

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[krawhitham]

53. They both look photoshoped

[Name removed]

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[BrainStorm]

63. Barack said that the FAMILIES WERE OFF LIMITS.

Especially the kids. What about that do you not understand??

[Seen the light]

64. I hope you're not saying that me originally posting the picture was "attacking" her

Because that's BS. I saw the picture on another site and it made me laugh so I thought DU would get a kick out of it too.

[Danger Mouse]

65. No, I don't think you as attacking her.

You just posted the pic. It's the comments people made about it that were loathsome.

[MNDemNY]

66. Yes, you created the forum for all of this bile.

:evilgrin:

[LisaL]

73. Oh brother. What exactly did you mean by saying she isn't so nice?

[Jennicut]

68. Remember guys, it was McLoser that attacked Chelsea Clinton

Comparing her to Janet Reno. He is a d*ckhead but we don't have to be.

[Me.]

93. Actually

The 'joke' was:

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno are her parents.

[LisaL]

70. Piper is a really cute kid.

Saying negative things about a six year old kid doesn't get anyone anywhere anyway.

[Ikonoklast]

71. You are correct.

I like this one far better.

[LisaL]

72. Just how old are you?

[Ikonoklast]

77. Old enough to see hypocrisy and self-righteousness for what it is.

Old enough to see through bullshit and non-issues.

How about you?

[MNDemNY]

75. Fabulous!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

78. she could probably kick your ass.

[the48er]

76. Somewhere, William Claude Dukenfield Is Weeping over the Photo's Inauthenticity

Who needs shame when you can be in the entertainment (or political) business?

[progressivebydesign]

80. Dear God.. we make light of a funny picture of a scowling child and we are lectured.

Thanks Mom!! sheesh!

[MNDemNY]

81. To your room, no tv or phone, and just wait till your father gets home!

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[Number23]

107. I know! Good grief, this thread wins the DU Daily Drama award

Dear God.. we make light of a funny picture of a scowling child and we are lectured.

What's the big damn deal?????

Did anyone call for Piper to be taken from her mother?? Did anyone assert that she was white trash, that her mother be put in jail, or that she be beaten senseless for giving another child the finger?? All folks did was say that she wasn't nice and maybe needed some more "attention" from her parents. I even mentioned "tenderizing" which is what my grandad called a good swat across the backside when kids are acting up.

Some folks are simply not happy unless there is beating of breasts, gnashing of teeth and a whole damn bunch of drama.

[MNDemNY]

82. Very interesting to see what gets deleted and what does not.

:crazy: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: Oh, well, back to my scotch.

[mokawanis]

83. Can we argue about some other trivial topic tomorrow?

I think the photo is wrong but I don't think it's all that big a deal. I'll agree it is a cheap shot and inappropriate though.

[Neecy]

84. So why are you starting a new thread with this photo?

Link or not, it's still spreading this fake photograph here.

If you really cared about this kid, you'd let the original thread die and not drag this photo around again.

[LisaL]

86. Oh for crying out loud. The post has a link to the original photo,

not the fake one.
Good god.

[Neecy]

89. what's the difference?

It's still spreading around a fake photograph - I'm assuming at least a few people who didn't see the original thread clicked on the link.

ETA: I notice the OP has now replaced the fake link with a link to the real photo. Perhaps you got to the thread late.

[cjsmom44]

88. RE: I Second that

I agree...to target a small child is to invite the right wingers scorn even more....We have to walk the walk and not just talk the talk....If it was targeted at one of Obama's kids we would be outraged....

[Odin2005]

92. I agree. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE, damnit.

They should not be mocked and humiliated just because they have an asshole for a mom.

[swishyfeet]

94. Please, how was she being attacked?

Exactly, how does posting a fake/humorous picture of a darling little girl (who's on teevee ALL THE TIME) cause her any harm?

It was a nice chopjob that ultimately made a few people chuckle. I doubt anyone around here was worked up enough to start sending hate mail to the Palins for it.

[begin_within]

96. Can anyone please explain WHY THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR KIDS IN FRONT OF CAMERAS?

[Binka]

98. I'll ExPALIN It To You Bob These Wanking Losers Use Their Children As PROPS

They lack in the most basic parenting skills because they are narcissist assholes. They think they can gain a bit of approval if they parade their kids around as if they are at a dog show or maybe a beauty pageant. They are fucking creeps. Track is a drug addict and vandal, Bristol is knocked up at 17, who knows what the rest of this rat infested pack will become. But But But hands off this family.:wtf: The nasty GOP will do EVERY THING to destroy OBAMA but we have to feel sorry for Palin's crotch expressions? I don't think so.

Fuck that. These assholes are on the national stage. They want to use their kids as props? Bring on the criticism. If the idiot OP can not see this as a critique on Sarah he has issues. Photo-shopped or not these fuckers put their kids in the lime light. Bring on the sunlight or the raid.

'Nuff said this post really pissed me off. Fuck Elrond.

[Danger Mouse]

100. I'm glad I pissed you off. Fuck you right back.

Edit to add: You know we'd be pissed off if freepers were calling one of Obama's kids a 'crotch expression' so why do the exact same fucking thing?

[Binka]

105. Your Pathetic Diatribe Came Long Before (pun intended) My Crotch Expression

Take your outrage elsewhere WALL-E. You've got shit on this. Epic fail and total collapse. Time for another boring New Yorker to go on ignore. Bye Elrond.

[Danger Mouse]

106. Glad to put you on ignore as well, shit-for-brains.

[1Hippiechick]

121. Ruh-Roh.....

:popcorn:

[Danger Mouse]

123. I'm sorry, but her first post on this thread said 'fuck Elrond'.

If she can't even bother to be civil, I have no reason to speak to her. Ever.
She can go fuck herself.

[Number23]

108. Damn, Binka!!!

You've got shit on this. Epic fail and total collapse.

Remind me to never start any sh*t with you unless I am ready to SCRAP!! You DO NOT play!

As my two year old says "goodness gwacious...!" :rofl: :rofl:

[1Hippiechick]

120. uh-oh....

:popcorn:

[Boudica the Lyoness]

103. Well said Binka

What a terrible mother Palin is. That little girl is so cute though. It's too bad she has to be raised by them. She'll be knocked up by some redneck idiot git while still in her teens no doubt.
I loved the photo shopped pic of her flipping that little boy off. I hope, unlike her skanky mother and sister, she can keep the boys at bay till she grows up.

[Apollo11]

115. Did you just call Senator Obama a "Wanking Loser"?

Or did you not see his two young girls up on stage at the Democratic National Convention?

Plus numerous magazine articles and even a TV interview.

[Apollo11]

114. Unfortunately, people prefer to vote for candidates who are parents.

That's because most voters are parents, and they are suspicious of anyone that does not have kids.

I am 39 years-old, married without children. Most of my long-time friends are parents and I know they are subconsciously uncomfortable with the idea that another couple would choose not have kids. It's almost as if we are implicitly criticizing their family-oriented lifestyle.

[nam78_two]

97. That whole thread was absurd and icky

a) It is a 6 yo for heavens sake and honestly, if that photo had been real, it is hardly some sort of huge travesty. Kids do stuff like that and anyway it is really icky to pick on the kids. I just don't get even the huge amount of faux outrage over a kid doing something like that. Kids do stuff like that..
b) There are SO many actually AWFUL things about a Palin vice-presidency to talk about, why go so low? Not that attacking some one's family is ok if you are slipping in polls-I say we leave that crap to Faux News and the Freepers.

Sarah Palin is a scarily ignorant, crazy, lying, fundie moron and would make an awful vp. Nothing to do with her as a mom, her family, her kids etc. She may be a great mom, wife etc., but she seems to be scarily ignorant about matters related to foreign policy, the economy and other subjects one would expect a vp candidate to be more conversant in.
And that is the real problem with her.

[crankychatter]

99. that photo was kinda cute... I'm disappointed it's not real, BUT

not the least bit up tight about any of this

this is way more about anal retention than concern for kids

a fat bucket of hooey

[donheld]

102. K & R

I had wished we were better than that.

[WinkyDink]

104. Palin's coat is HIDEOUS.

[FlyingSquirrel]

109. It was photoshopped.

But it was a very good job.

Me personally, I only wondered whether it was real or not. I did not start making attacks against Palin based on the photo. (Check me.) That's freeper territory. Come on people, be smarter than the average slime.

[NYC_SKP]

129. No, it wasn't...it was two fingers, not a flipping of bird and not photoshopped.

[fujiyama]

110. I stopped reading that thread

when someone called the kid a 'snot nosed little brat' or something to that effect. Even if that picture wasn't photoshopped, it would have been funny but innocuous. Basically it's showing her and her brother (?), goofing around and being kids.

Pretty low to judge a kid.

And while I know many of the comments were in context of "oh look how she's raised her kid", that still comes off as self righteous. Let's judge Palin by her politics. There's no need to go down this low road when she has soooo much political baggage to go after.

[1Hippiechick]

112. What the HELL am I missing here? I see her kid holding up two fingers, representing 2 or "V", or

rabbit ears?

What the hell!?! Who the hell is being attacked, for Chrissake!?

[Apollo11]

113. Actually - in England and many other places, they use 2 fingers instead of 1

V sign as an insult
The insulting version of the gesture (with the palm inwards) is often compared to the offensive gesture known as "the finger". The "two-fingered salute", or "bowfinger", as it is also known, is commonly performed by flicking the V upwards from wrist or elbow. The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England,<4> and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.<5> It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt or derision,<6> and is often accompanied by the phrases "up yours" or "fuck off".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign


But of course I agree with the point you are making about candidate's kids being off limits (as Sen. Obama has also made clear). In fact I alerted the thread you are referring to for that exact reason.

[davidpdx]

119. I was one of the ones that told people to knock it off

unfortunately the dumbasses on here don't listen.

[Norrin Radd]

122. It's only a flip off in the UK and few other places:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign_as_an_insult#V_sign_as_an_insult

[Raster]

124. Thank you, Mother Superior!

[1Hippiechick]

125. Your signature line says it all! Wish I had thought of THAT one - would have been using it for

Weeks! LOVE it.

[NYC_SKP]

128. NOT photoshopped, she's just holding up two fingers. What's the big f'n deal?

:shrug:

[casus belli]

130. The thread to which the OP is referring...

had one of the fingers shopped out. I'll let you guess which one.

I don't really see it as that big of a deal, unless the thread comments were inappropriate. I didn't stick around long enough to see many of them.

[NYC_SKP]

131. Ah, thank you. My picture came from the link provided in the OP...

He/she should have linked the photoshopped picture....

I mean, that would have made a lot of sense.