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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:05 AM
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Poll question: Photoshop or not?
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 06:10 AM by FlyingSquirrel
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:07 AM
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1. I don't photoshop so I don't know. n/t
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:09 AM
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3. As someone said in the other thread
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 06:41 AM by FlyingSquirrel
If it's a photoshop it's magnificent. I think it's real. Not that it matters, but it's 4am and I'm bored.

Edit: On further inspection, I think it might be fake.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7309062#7310130

The faint black line on the left side of her hand/finger against the white background does not match what happens with the boy's right wrist against a light background, as well as the top of Sarah Palin's right hand (knuckle) against a white background. In fact, it doesn't even match what the rest of the girl's fingers look like against the white background. The finger may have been added in. Then again, shadows don't always do the same thing in all parts of things.



Aw heck, I'm still not sure. Put me down for uncertain.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:08 AM
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20. That is not a child's finger
It has been added.

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Keefer Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:19 AM
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27. The fingernail...
looks awfully long for a childs finger...

Just sayin'.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:08 AM
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2. Just put this into CS3 and it appears to be a pretty poor job
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:31 AM
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8. I don't know what CS3 is.. The only way to prove conclusively I think
would be to find a picture that's the same but with a different hand and clearly not photoshopped.

Time to go huntin'!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:33 AM
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9. Photoshop CS 3
Zoom in on image, see cloned finger that does not match
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:36 AM
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13. Another issue
If it was originally a fist, there would be more space between the index and ring finger since the middle finger would take up more room. That space would have to be convincingly filled, but to me it would be EXTREMELY difficult to do that without being obvious. Now, they could've replaced the entire hand but the shadowing is perfect and I just don't see that as a likely possibility.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:02 AM
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18. I agree with you - it was a fis with the finger photoshopped
on to it. The finger looks like an adult finger too, not a childs.

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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:20 AM
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4. It's a photoshop. Look at the image's EXIF properties.
It says it was modified by Adobe Photoshop CS3 Windows version on October 3, 2008.

The original creation date was June 23, 2008 and the photo was taken with a FujiFilm FinePix S5200 digital camera.

So, the "original" photo, without the flipoff is likely from one of Palin's events in Alaska long before she was even in anyone's radar.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:34 AM
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10. I also pulled it into Photoshop and . . .
if it's been modified, it's a very clean job. I can't see any artifacts. The EXIF data could easily be meaningless. Whatever the source of the original, it would likely have to be resized for Web use, hence the modification date.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:07 AM
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19. Most people use some program for their pics before putting on the net, and all that might have been
done was cropping, adjusting of contrast, etc without manipulating the content.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:21 AM
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5. I think the picture is real, but I DON'T think it's Failins child
This child looks a bit older then Piper and the images I've seen of Piper have her wearing her hair parted more on one side than ub the middle.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:08 AM
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21. She is Piper. Here's a pic of her from the GOP Convention. Same child.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:25 AM
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6. Would the woman behind the boy be smiling if it was real?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:26 AM
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7. I wondered the same thing, but she's looking at the top of his head
and probably not noticing the girl.

But I am not sure either way at this point.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:34 AM
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11. That kid looks like a hellraiser
LOL!!!

That kid looks like trouble!!!!!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:35 AM
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12. well either way
it just gosh darn funny!..... wink.... the look on that kids face...lol
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:44 AM
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14. One thing for sure is that
that little girl is creepy anyway. Did anyone catch her making faces after the debate?
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:49 AM
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15. This one was not after the debate but.....
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:50 AM
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16. I vote for let's stop posting this crap over and over again
whether it's true or not it gives us 0% creditability. This fight is about getting Obama/Biden in the White House in January so we can undo some of the crap from the last 8 years.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:53 AM
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17. OT, but it's another picture of Sarah without her wedding ring. nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:12 AM
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23. lol! Someone posted on another thread that it was photoshopped, using Palin's lack of a wedding
ring as one of the reasons. I replied that it has been observed a few times that she doesn't seem to wear one. Her husband doesn't either.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:12 AM
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22. yes its photoshopped. Link to original photo here:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:15 AM
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25. Wow! instead of flashing the bird, she's flashing a peace sign!!!!
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:59 PM
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29. Peace sign is the other way... that's the British "up yours" V
but if looks could kill, that other kid would be dead meat
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:15 AM
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26. Good find. Leave the kid alone. nt
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:54 PM
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28. Fantastic. Thank you!
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 10:55 PM by FlyingSquirrel
:applause:

Good job.
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:13 AM
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24. Upon first glance, I thought maybe you were referring to that reDONKulous jacket she's wearing...
But no, that part is not in dispute. Funny pic though, when you look at the kids' faces at each other.
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progressivemom Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:04 PM
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30. That jacket should be burned. So hideous.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:07 PM
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31. me too!
to bad this isnt an election based on clothing style


gee whiz, its awful!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:17 PM
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32. I think the real crime in the photo is the coat Palin is wearing.
And that isn't photoshopped, no siree!
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