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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:30 AM
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Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy month!
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 02:31 AM by Undercurrent
After seeing him go through the fire during the primary, I have confidence Obama can withstand anything McCrud can throw at him. In fact it might be harder on me to watch it, than for our team to handle it, but I still don't like it one little bit. The slime throwing is going to be sickening.

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McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said

...With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

...Moments after the House of Representatives approved a bailout package for Wall Street on Friday afternoon, the McCain campaign released a television ad that challenges Obama's honesty and asks, "Who is Barack Obama?" The ad alleges that "Senator Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes. Ninety-four times. He's not truthful on taxes." The charge that Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes has been called misleading by independent fact-checkers, who have noted that the majority of those votes were on nonbinding budget resolutions.

A senior campaign official called the ad "just the beginning" of commercials that will "strike the new tone" in the campaign's final days. The official said the "aggressive tone" will center on the question of "whether this guy is ready to be president."

more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303738.html?hpid=topnews

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:32 AM
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1. I very nearly had a nervous breakdown in October, 2004
These campaigns go on for WAY too long.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:40 AM
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2. I think the nature of Obama's whole campaign helps him here
First he can point out the factual inaccuracies and use them to keep up the theme that the McCain's camp are lying/liars and secondly that they are out of touch (i.e. talking about pastors/ayers/"bitter" remarks) while the economy is crumbling for working class americans, offering no solutions to their actual day to day problems, unlike obama. He can even add in a sprinkiling of his own campaign theme of changing the tone of politics in washington and use that to further sully McCain's reputation (the sense that discussing a problem with some one is easier if you don't essential call them a shit-head first, a repudiation of Cheney's "Fuck off" politics). Bottom line, he can respond to the attacks but then throw it back to McCain to reinforce narratives that have been set up well over the last month
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:48 AM
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3. Go ahead, make my day...
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 02:49 AM by regnaD kciN
It's Obama's job to stay above the fray. It isn't ours.

If the McCain camp tries to play dirty, we have more than enough skeletons in his closet to use to our advantage. Let's start with his admitted collaboration with the North Vietnamese, which may have cost hundreds of American fliers their lives.

Some "war hero!" :puke:

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:11 AM
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10. Yes. And where are McC's damned medical records??????
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:50 AM
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4. McCain's Real Problem Is That It Is McCain v. Obama and The Truth About The Economy
The DOW is dropping below where it was when the Bush presidency began eight years ago. Worse, we are in much worse shape than we were in 2001. The internet craze was about to burst, but bricks and mortar business were still pretty strong, and construction was about to take off. In other words, following the Clinton presidency, the fundamentals of the ecoomy WERE strong. However, that is not the case now. Things are pretty screwed up, as some of the stories below indicate. Yes, the bailout was passed by Congress, but it will still take at least 30 days before this massive 700 billion bailout can begin to be implemented. To the extent there is a delay, blame McCain and the Republicans for trying to pin this entire bailout on the Democrats, and politicize this process. Heck, they are doing it right now with ads attacking the bailout and taking credit for getting it past.

The fact of the matter is that McCain may try to restart the cultural wars, but he has to deal with the basic reality. Obama just needs to take each of McCain's negative ads, and shove it back down McCain's throat as being out of touch. McCain is losing sight of the big issues. Obama could say, "yes, we could spend millions on ads regarding McCain being a member of the Keating 5 and Rick Davis being on the dole from Fannie Mae, but instead we want to tell you in detail about what we are going to do for you." In other words, aggressively mock McCain for his efforts to distract voters from the fact that they are losing their homes and their jobs. When McCain touts cutting taxes for the rich, Obama just needs to ask how is that working right now, and isn't that George Bush's economic policy? How is that working? Indeed, Obama is doing that right now based on recent job's data. Yup, those Bush tax cuts are doing a world of good, aren't they?

I am sure McCain will get racist, anti-Catholic, anti-gay, you name it. However, as Democrats, we need to keep our eye on the ball. We are facing a situation where a mild recession is the upside, and a severe recession is the downside. It is scary the agreement among both Republican and Democrat leaning economists on the enormity of the crisis. I was watching Larry King, and Paul Krugman and Ben Stein in one show, and Ben Stein and Robert Reich in another, were all generally agreeing that we are in a bad situation. And it is not going to go away.

If John McCain's attacks have some traction, then the upside is that people are no longer so fearful that they can pay attention to irrelevant crap. However, as the dominoes begin to fall, people will pay attention to the economy, not whether Obama's former pastor or Palin's former pastor is worse. In other words, we no longer have the luxury of deciding an election on issues like flag burning and gay marriage. These may be important issues, but most folks aren't going to give a shit right now.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/162138

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Watching the slipping economy and Congress's epic debate over the Treasury's unprecedented $700 billion financial bailout, it is impossible not to wonder whether this is 1929 all over again. Even sophisticated observers invoke the comparison. Martin Wolf, the chief economic commentator for the Financial Times, began a recent column: "It is just over three score years and ten since the Great Depression." What's frightening is not any one event but the prospect that things are slipping out of control. Panic—political as well as economic—is the enemy.

There are parallels between then and now, but there are also big differences. Now, as then, Americans borrowed heavily before the crisis—in the 1920s, for cars, radios and appliances; in the past decade, for homes or against inflated home values. Now, as then, the crisis caught people by surprise and is global in scope. But unlike then, the federal government is now a huge part of the economy (20 percent vs. 3 percent in 1929) and its spending—for Social Security, defense, roads—provides greater stabilization. Unlike then, government officials have moved quickly, if clumsily, to contain the crisis.

We need to remind ourselves that economic slumps—though wrenching and disillusioning for millions—rarely become national tragedies. Since the late 1940s, the United States has suffered 10 recessions. On average, they've lasted 10 months and involved peak monthly unemployment of 7.6 percent; the worst (those of 1973–75 and 1981–82) both lasted 16 months and had peak unemployment of 9.0 percent and 10.8 percent, respectively. We are almost certainly in a recession now, but joblessness, 6.1 percent in September, would have to rise spectacularly to match post-World War II highs.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27011002/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27015257/

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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:51 AM
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5. Meh....let them come
I'm not worried about it. And I don't think they scare Axelrod and Plouffe...at all. This isn't Bob Shrum and Mary Beth Cahill here.

These guys are killers. They may do it softly, but they kill just the same.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:11 AM
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11. Thank God it's not Shrum & Co. Losers.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:53 AM
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6. Watch the polls next week. Especially state ones.
I suspect that the Obama campaign might rightfully attempt to frame McCain's antics as "desperate."

Obama's national polls have either held stable or slightly increased from last week to this week. Given that there's roughly a one-week lag between state and national polls, we should be seeing some lovely numbers from those battleground states.

I wonder if the media will begin a "desperate McCain" and/or "inevitable Obama" narrative?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:55 AM
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7. More of the same from McSame
This is not going to work for him. He'll just look like more of a cranky, mean old man.

And it'll be increasingly obvious that he does not have the temperament to be president and that he has nothing to offer - attacking his opponent only confirms that.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:01 AM
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8. Seems like if they wanted to make the race about who's "ready to be president," they
should have picked a running mate who could make an even-halfway credible VP.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:06 AM
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9. That was astonishing
All they have left is the dirtiest of smears to play- and in this environemnt, they're unlikely to work.
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