My heart is just shattered right now.

[ronnykmarshall]

My cousin, who I consider a sister just responded to me this HATEFUL shit about my marriage.

I feel like I just got hit in the face with a brick.

She gave the basic .... It's between a man and a woman shit.

I can not believe this.

She went to our commitment ceremony back in 2001. She was so "happy" when I sent pictures of my legal wedding .... and now THIS.

I am sick to my stomach.

[Newsjock]

1. Perhaps you should introduce her to GD:P

Looks like she'd be among friends here. :(

(And yes, you have my deepest sympathy.)

[EFerrari]

2. Take a step back. Don't let it in.

:hug:

[ronnykmarshall]

58. I know ....

God this is horrible.

Her sister calmed me down.


GRRRRRRR!

Just before I wrote this there was a Yes on 8 ad on TV.

I can't throw something in the TV ... it's not paid for yet.

[billyoc]

3. Sorry to hear that, Ronnie. You can't pick your relatives, they say.

:hug:

[ronnykmarshall]

44. I just talked to her sister....

and her husband said ... you can pick your nose, pick your ass but you can't pick your family!!!!

[timber84]

50. I'll cheer you up!

Its a TRAP!!!!!!! See made you laugh. Best wishes for speedy healing.

:grouphug:

[ronnykmarshall]

53. You rock!!!

[Forkboy]

87. I heard it this way...

"You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't wipe your friends on the sofa."

I grew up weird. :)

[ulysses]

4. I'm sorry, Ronny.

[babylonsister]

5. I'm so sorry to hear that, ronny. How can someone

change their opinion just like that? Who's influencing her, and how old is she? That sucks. :hug:

[David__77]

6. I cannot have any emotional ties to people with that view.

I can befriend them only on the most superficial level, in working relations or as a means of educating them, but that's it. I'm sorry for that loss. I hope you can convince her otherwise.

[blm]

115. That's how I feel within my own family, DZ....I lost that old connective feeling when the RW memes

started flowing in earnest back in 2000.

At some point, I expect some of them to come around, but, in the meantime I'm not holding breath. Have low expectations and there will be far less disappointment. But, hang on to a wee bit.....just in case.... ;)

[NMDemDist2]

7. oh sweetie, I'm so sorry

:hug:

and your cousin is a pretty damned sorry excuse for a human being too

:pals:

[Beregond2]

8. Tell her how you feel.

And ask her why she has changed her mind.

[quakerboy]

9. sorry

that sucks ass. Seriously. Any chance she is the type you can smack about a bit with a facefull of truth and get her right?

[NC_Nurse]

10. I wonder who pooped in her pablum!

It's not about you. Maybe her own love life sucks right now.

I'm sorry, Ronny. :hug:

[LisaM]

11. What precipitated the change?

Fear? Did she just join a fundamentalist church?

[ronnykmarshall]

48. She joined a church that my aunt goes to.

When Aunt Pat joined she talked with the pastor and said "This is not a church of hate" and pastor said no. I've met people from that church and they are wonderful people. My Aunt is gonna SHIT when she hears about this.

[madaboutharry]

12. Did she have some kind of overnight conversion?

I guess I am a little confused. What happened that would have caused her to turn on you like this? (I don't mean to be intrusive).

ronnykmarshall, I have seen your posts here for years on DU. I read all the things you post and I have a lot of respect for you. (Which may sound strange since I don't even know you, but whatever).
I am sure you feel betrayed, but it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with your cousin. Does that make sense?

[JuniperLea]

13. Hypocrites are heartbreaking sometimes...

Let it go. This isn't about you, it's about her.

[Wickerman]

14. Try not to personalize it

It sounds like she has something else tormenting her. A shame she dumped on you. I know, no help.

:hug:

[truthN08]

15. I am so sorry

That sucks and it's ignorant beyond belief. I am so sorry your cousin would say that or worse believe her own words.

[JerseygirlCT]

16. That's awful.

And, yes, I have to agree, hateful.

To what purpose was that even said? What was it she hoped to achieve other than to hurt you terribly?

Hateful.

[racaulk]

I'm so sorry, ronny.

That's really, really shitty of her. :hug:

[grannie4peace]

17. i 'm so sorry

you can't change her , just concentrate on becoming stronger . you know the things that you need to pay attention to. you have the future on your side :):):)

[Blondiegrrl]

18. I'm so sorry. Your cousin is an ignorant ass. n/t

[NotThisTime]

29. I'm also sorry :( Sometimes people close to us surprise us in the worst ways

[liberalmuse]

19. Your cousin is WRONG.

And she likely doesn't mean it. She'll come around if she is a true friend. Perhaps she's having a miserable day. That's no excuse, but too many times people say things in the heat of the moment that they just don't mean.

[Zuiderelle]

20. I'm so sorry, Ronny.

:( :hug:

[DesertRat]

21. I'm sorry, that's awful

She's just brainwashed. Take care. :hug:

[Barack_America]

22. Oh, this is just sickening.

My heart is breaking for you. I can't even imagine the disappointment and hurt this must bring you.

It's just awful when the ones we love the most let us down so profoundly.

:hug:

[Hepburn]

23. Ronny, IMO, do NOT let other people make their problems, your problem.

So she has a gripe with gay marriage. What exactly does that take away for the FACT that you and the person you love are married? Ummmmm....nothing, IMO. Hey, with straight marriages, there is often a friend or a relative that thinks that the marriage is not the best thing.

So...love and live your life as YOU want...and just consider that there could be a lot of reasons she resents your happy situation and NONE of those reasons have to do with the fact that you are in a gay marriage. Some times, people cannot stand to see others content and happy and they just HAVE TO put a downer on it. Often this is because, IMO, they are NOT happy in their lives and need to do some transference of their feelings on to others. Ignore her, OK?

Do NOT let an outsider effect what you feel and what you know is right for you and the other very important person in your life!

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

72. Smooches...

and I love you and your scottie dog too!

[BeyondGeography]

24. Ugh...no good words for that

She's the loser in this one, whether she realizes it or not. Be strong, friend.

[Tikki]

25. Ronny...the family dynamic is fluid...

this new statement may not be how she feels in the future.
Time has a way of putting what's new into perspective.

There are so many people that are so happy for you and Michael..

Tikki

[redwitch]

26. That was incredibly mean of her.

And I'm sorry it hurt you so much. :hug:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. I don't understand why people are so mean sometimes.

And they can be especially mean when they're family. I'm so sorry your cousin has turned nasty on you. Is it worth asking her why she feels that way? Or maybe you're better off just walking away.

:hug:

[FrenchieCat]

28. What changed her from being Happy at your legal Wedding

to now stating that she is against your Wedding? Do you know? Seems odd.

I remember my mom telling me about when her own father rejected her for having a relationship with a Black man (my dad. she's White) initially (this was in the late 50s). She was very hurt, but she took it in stride. I think her strength and their love got her through those dark times. He eventually accepted the situation....but it took time.

[ronnykmarshall]

45. I have no idea.

Frenchie, I am in tears right now.

She DID join a church that her mom goes too. A pretty liberal church. My Aunt is going to SHIT when she hears about this.

[FrenchieCat]

49. Maybe you should write her a letter telling her how you feel.....

and ask her to think about things, and to contact you when she has put things in perspective as to what is important in life.

I'm sorry that you are sad like this. I hope that this too shall pass. :(

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Good idea.

I have to calm down right now.

[woo me with science]

81. Seconding this.

If she was there in the first place, I would not give up on her just yet. Maybe she just needs to hear from you and be reminded of who you are. If she is being fed hateful dogma and abstractions, contact with you when you are living and breathing and human and loved by her may help bring her back to what is important.

My heart goes out to you.

[Pale Blue Dot]

93. I'll bet it was realization of the fact that McCain and the Republicans are going to lose big.

I think conservatives are starting to feel a little like wounded animals. They're likely to start lashing out, just as Ronny's cousin did to him.

[LynnTheDem]

30. I am so sorry your relation is unhappy about your happy marriage.

I am so sorry for your relation.

I am so happy for you that you found someone to love and cherish in marriage.

:hug:

[HockeyMom]

31. That makes me so mad

How these people seem to think that simple biology will make everything just right. I will not go into details, but I used to cry myself to sleep at night wishing my parents would just get divorced. My cousin was raised by my aunt and her partner back in the 1950s. He had such a wonderful life with two parents who loved each other and loved him. I used to dream about running away and going to live with them. My parents stayed together for "me". They didn't do me any favors by that, trust me. They stopped talking to each other totally the last 10 years of my Dad's life. On his deathbed my Dad apologized to me for giving me such a miserable childhood. Is this what these people want? Just because a couple have opposite genders will make a marriage and family life good?

Your cousin and people like her are just plain WRONG. Tell her that for me.

[kestrel91316]

32. ronny, that's terrible. I'm so sorry.

You must never lose sight of the fact that YOU ARE RIGHT in what you have done (getting married) and SHE IS WRONG. The loss is hers.

I have an older cousin I always liked and respected until he derisively mocked my belief in the mere existence of global warming ten years ago. It was very hurtful, and I just didn't talk to him the rest of the time I was there (visiting another state for another cousin's wedding).

We can't pick our families. But we don't have to let them mess up our lives, either (at least once we are adults).

[renie408]

33. I am so sorry. I would say I understand your pain, but I probably don't. But I feel for you

and I can only tell you that there are A LOT of people out there who believe that your commitment is every bit as spiritual and valuable as any between a man and a woman. Probably a lot more valuable than most of the heterosexual marriages that I know of.

[Inspired]

34. I don't even know you and I'm thrilled about your marriage.

I hope it helps to know that there are millions of Americans who feel the way I do.

[no_hypocrisy]

35. Ronnie, I'm really sorry to hear about your unhappiness over your cousin.

Without knowing more than you've told, don't assume it has anything to do with you. Your cousin may have relationship issues and is envious of your happiness and has used the GL marriage issue to vent. She wasn't always this way. Something changed.

Step back and wait to see what you can discover.

You wish your family were more like you but that isn't always the case.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

36. ronny, I'm sorry, but I'm not surprised. Many straights just don't get it (Although some do).

It's the same as many whites don't get blacks (although some do)

It's the same as many blacks don't get Hispanics (although some do)

It's the same as many men don't get women (although some do)

It's the same as many rich don't get the poor (although some do)

And all those statements can be reversed and still be true.




It is hurtful, and I am sorry... but don't put your faith in anyone but yourself. You will be let down if you do.


I'm gay and mixed race. I love my hispanic mother, my white racist father, my brothers, my African American sister-in-law.... yet every single one of them is homophobic. They all think I am going to hell.

I think they are dumb as shit for thinking that, but I still love them, and they still love me.







Again, I know it hurts, but believe in yourself and say "screw you" to even those you love when you need to.


*HUGS*

[foxfeet]

37. Sorry, Ronny. I'm guessing that the sense of betrayal by one you trusted

is one of the worst parts of this. Take a deep breath. Sleep on it.
Decide what your next step will be. I don't know if you feel the relationship is worth salvaging, but that's not for me to decide. Either way, don't rush yourself. Take the time to figure out what's right for you.

[Irishonly]

38. I am so sorry, Ronny

I remember the pictures you posted and they brought joy to everyone who saw them. Surround yourself with those you love.

[Fovea]

39. You and your beloved

are the only ones besides the gods who know the depth of your love and the span of your commitment.

It cannot be lessened by the contumely of the hateful, no matter how vicious, or how close.

remember your joy is more important than your pain.

Be well,
Realp

[mnhtnbb]

40. Ronny, it's so painful to have family be critical. I am so sorry that

your joy is being shattered, especially by someone you believed
was on your side.

Peace and hugs.

:hug:

[Rowdyboy]

41. Hate is an acid that eats away and destroys the vessel that holds it......Ronnie

its her loss my friend. Sorry you were hurt.

[goodgd_yall]

42. I'm so sorry

That is really tough---from someone you felt accepted you.

:hug: ronnyK

[melody]

43. Maybe she's going through a bad time or a hormonal uproar or something?

That's really awful -- I'm very sorry you had to go through that.

[IndianaJones]

did she get the ammo here? nt.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

46. My dear ronny...

I am so sorry, sweetie...

I wonder what happened to her, or who got to her?

You have my deepest condolences, sweetie...

C'mere...here's a hug for you: :hug:

[ronnykmarshall]

51. My dear Peggy ....

Thank you so much.

And to ALL of you.

I just can not believe this.

This is the girl that held me as a baby.

[crankychatter]

47. sorry about your feelings getting hurt

miscategorized

[tigereye]

54. I am sorry, Ronny - I really don't get why straight people make such a fuss

about this, and I am sorry that someone close to you was so insensitive and cruel.


:hug:

[JI7]

55. something must have happened between then and now

not sure what but i think she might have been influenced by some people, probably something religious. try to find out more from other family members if you can.

[ronnykmarshall]

56. All of you .... thank you.

I love you all so much.

[marimour]

57. I'm sorry.

I know it has to be hurtful when you find out that someone who you thought supported you really doesn't. Hopefully she will come around in time.

[Undercurrent]

59. Family or not,

I can't have a relationship with a person who acts hateful to others like your cousin acted toward you. I'm really sorry you have been hit with this crap. It makes me sad, and brings back my own painful memories.

I had a cousin who was like a brother. He lived with us for several years when he was a kid, and my aunt was sick. He was gay, and died of AIDS. There were hateful things said by some family members about him as he lay blind, in pain, and dying in the hospital.

It's been almost 20 years since my cousin died, and I have never spoken one word to those assholes since. I haven't even been in the same house as them. They are only family by blood. Not by heart.

[ronnykmarshall]

60. I lost a brother to AIDS too.

For her to say that is an insult to my brother.

I love my cousin with all my heart. She has NO idea what she has done.

[flvegan]

61. Sorry to hear this ronny.

I tend to write folks off fairly slowly, and this one sounds like a brainwash. Any change in her life? New husband or other major shitty influence on her?

I hope you can talk to her and maybe bring her around. I think that were I in your situation, anyone that gave me that line about my spouse, if I thought to be too far gone...would be dead to me.

Take care, ronny.

[jillan]

62. Just know in your heart that while there are still people like her around -

more and more and more Americans respect your marriage.

Let me ask you this - is SHE happily married?
In Arizona there is a proposition on the ballot again this year trying to inject that marriage is between a man and a woman (it overwhelmingly failed last time). These people called me.
I told them about a couple I know, 2 men both in their mid-60's that have been together for over 30 years. Why, I asked, is anything wrong with that - especially since most of my friends that are in a man/woman marriage are either divorced or are unhappy. Then I told her that her little ballot measure would fail again because it is not the government's business to tell us who we can and cannot marry.

Don't let her shallowness get to you.:hug:

[Fenris]

63. That BLOWS.

x(

:hug:

[QC]

64. Does she post on DU? She would fit right in lately. n/t

[graywarrior]

65. Why do people feel the need to tell you their opinion when they know

damn well it will hurt you? Sorry you have to deal with this. My sister is the same way.

[Solon]

66. I'm so sorry you are going through this...

:hug:

[nini]

67. I too am sick to my stomach to hear someone did this to you

I want to kick her ass because she has caused you pain :cry:

She has fallen for hateful rhetoric and in some kind of brainwashed mindset she has chosen to choose hate over the loving relationship she had with you. She is not 'normal' if she turned like this. I don't have any profound advice because I don't know enough about the entire dynamic with everyone involved. I hope she realizes how unnecessary and hateful she was and apologizes to you and you can somehow heal from this.

You have always been one of my very favorite DUers because of your warm heart and great personality. You do not deserve to be judged by ANYONE especially someone who falls into the unconditional love category in your life. I wish I could make it better but that falls on her. Hang in there sweetie - hopefully she will get her head out of her ass and realize what she just did.

:hug: :loveya:

[PresidentObama]

68. My heart goes out to you....

I've been posting a local board, and in the political section me and my grandfather have been fighting like cat's and dog's. But when I stood up against some homophobic remarks, he wouldn't come to my aid. My mother posts there too, and she did. But he's a small-town racist and is full of right wing ignorance, and I found it as hurtful that he stood on the sidelines and allowed them to gang up on me and call me immoral for being gay.

[Clio the Leo]

69. Once again, the hypocrisy of the Conservative right rears it's ugly head....

The Bible ...... you know, that book that these so called Christians base their beliefs on ..... goes into much greater detail about marriage and divorce between heterosexual couples than it does homosexual couples. It's plainly clear. If someone marries for a second time, unless they are a widow/er or their first spouse cheated on them ..... if they remarry, it's adultery. Plain and simple. It's right there, I can provide a verse if anyone needs it.

Yet these folks who like to wave the "sanctity of marriage" banner TOTALLY disregard the COMMONALITY of adulterous marriages and act as if homosexual marriage is the ONLY sin in the book.

It's disgraceful.

Now, please dont misunderstand me, if there were an amendment vote right now that would allow ALL people to marry, regardless of sexual preference, I'd vote YES for it in a heart beat because I do not believe we should legislate morality and I believe in equal rights for all. But I am DEEPLY offended as a Christian by those who CLAIM to be my fellow Christians who believe we can pick and choose what's a sin and what's not.

[Magrittes Pipe]

70. I'm so sorry, Ronny.

:hug:

[ronnykmarshall]

71. Thanks baby ...

It's friends like you and everyone up thread that make me still come back here.

[Barack_America]

73. ronnykmarshall, I want to tell you something.

I posted above, but I had forgotten to mention this.

I too looked at your wedding pictures when you posted them on DU. Personally, I am pretty skeptical about marriage (family stuff). But when I looked at your wedding pictures and saw the obvious joy and love that you and your husband share, my faith in marriage was greatly renewed, certainly not the other way around. Your pictures honestly moved me. I don't know if I posted that at the time, but I wanted you to know. I definitely remember showing your pictures to my boyfriend, who also remarked how lovely they were.

[Liberalboy]

74. *hugs*

I think you rock :-)

[enigmatic]

75. I'm sorry, Ronny

:hug:

[PBS Poll-435]

76. It will be OK. Really.

And when Prop Fucking Eight FAILS in November, California voters will have affirmed equal marriage rights for all Californians.

[ScreamingMeemie]

77. Ronny...I am so very sorry.

Words don't change anything for you so I won't try to say anything that would be worthless to you anyway. Just know that my heart hurts for you. Know too, that the day you posted your wedding pics, I got teary eyed over the happiness for you both. That's what is important. Love.

[AlCzervik]

78. I'm so sorry Ronny but please don't let her opinion get you down, she's wrong and

she's false and that's on her not you. I'll be your cousin.


:hug:

[grantcart]

79. she is a prisoner in her own ignorance and

you are free and live a life full of love.

would you have it the other way around?

you want to play with her mind - just love her and don't take it seriously. She will eventually come around and remember how generous you were.

[lady raven]

80. I'm very sorry.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I understand why you are so upset and I would be too. I hope that she will become educated on the matter and realize that what she said to you was wrong, as is her entire view of the issue.

[LeftyMom]

82. I'm sorry.

[Lil Missy]

83. I'm so sorry ronny. That really hurts.

I know it's not the same, but I'll be your new cousin if you want. :-(


:hug:

[Beausoir]

84. Ronny, you are the Real Deal.

I admire and respect you.

You are funny and gracious and ballsey as hell.

I would LOVE to meet you some day.

I am sorry that you still have to deal with Neanderthals, especially within your own family.

Just ignore them if you can and appreciate all that is good. You are a gorgeous man and you are married to a gorgeous man.

Lucky sods!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

85. I hope she evolves...

:hug::hug::hug:

[Forkboy]

86. Sorry this is happening to you Ronny.

I hope that you two can find a way to work through this. I'll never get people, and stuff like this is the reason why. I've seen people make these shifts before on numerous occasions for numerous reasons, and I never get it. Personally, your marriage was one of the highlights of my summer. Your pics made me almost as happy as you looked. Why is anyone against that?

:hug:

[HEyHEY]

88. Tell her you're adopting a chinese baby too!@

[ronnykmarshall]

103. Shhhhhh little Lu Wang Selby-Marshall is sleeping.

[Jamastiene]

89. People really do suck sometimes.

I wish I knew what to say to make it not hurt. I hope a :hug: will do.

[intaglio]

90. I'm sorry for her that she cannot see that love and joy given

do not depend on gender.

But my heart goes to you and yours at the pain you feel

:hug:

[NorthernSpy]

91. Okay, she "got religion", and is now temporarily insane...

Here's what's happening. All of a sudden, she's living in a demon-haunted world, and the fires of hell are burning just a little ways beneath her feet. And she must not let any of this darksided stuff get ahold of her! If thine eye offendeth thee, pluck it out. If thy hand offendeth thee, cut it off. If thy cousin offendeth thee, break his heart and let Jesus put it back together. Terrible.


But all is not lost. Every day, people all across America come to their senses. Right this very day, countless people will decide that it's time to be more reasonable and less of an asshole. I hope that such a day will come soon for your cousin -- for your sake, and hers.

[terrya]

92. That's so fucking horrible.

To hear that hateful, bigoted shit from a family member...who apparently is nothing but a goddamned hypocrite...that kind of stuff makes me want to cry.

To those people here who were laughing or dismissive about our anger over Biden spewing that stuff Thursday night...this is what we were talking about.

I'm very, very sorry about your cousin, my friend. This is so awful about your cousin. But please rest assured that there are many, many more of your family and friends who are so pleased, so happy that you and your partner are now legally married. We couldn't be more delighted that you were able to get married and to celebrate your love and lifelong committment. And that we are fighting (even if it is just donating money) to make sure your marriage is protected by defeating Prop 8 this November. We want you and other gay and lesbian couples in California to be able to enjoy legal marriage and to have those marriages remain valid.

Here's a :hug:, I know it can't change the words or attitude of your cousin, but it's all I can offer.

[SmileyRose]

94. Just more hugs to the pile

I got nothin else.

[zulchzulu]

95. Dude, you have friends here... and elsewhere...

Your cousin can go to goddamn hell.

Don't let people like that get into your head. The reason for such hate is usually due to tremendous problems they have in their own lives. As the old adage goes, you point one finger at me and there are four fingers pointing back to you.

If anything, kill her with kindness. People like her can't stand that shit.

[davidpdx]

96. Sometimes people withhold how the really feel

and that could be the case with her. Eventually the truth slipped out, maybe she said it not even really thinking about how you feel.

I have very mixed feelings on the whole issue, but then again I don't live in California so I won't be voting on anything (all though there have been quite a few very contraversial measures in my state in the past).

[No Elephants]

97. Your cousin is wrong on four counts. One count is that marriage is between a man and a

woman. Marriage is bewteen whoever the law says it is between. If you got a marriage license, you are entitled to be married, period, full stop.

The second count is being deliberately hurtful to a good person. That is just mean and ugly and, IMO, the worst of her errors.

The third count is being mean and ugly to someone in the name of religion.

The fourth is the least of her errors, but she even has religion bolixed up. Even under the most literal interpretations, the Bible admonishes against intercourse between same gender couples. It makes no reference at all to marriage between same gender couples. So, this is purely about some dogma someone has fed her, not about religion.

Only you can decide how to handle this. I am no longer willing to have in my life people who, consciously or subconsciously, choose to hurt me, especially those who choose it consciously. She chose consciously. At a minimum, she owes you (and religion) a very humble apology and a promise to change her hate-filled ways.

Meanwhile, congratulations on your marriage and hugs to both of you, especially you. Smoochies, too.

[secondwind]

98. So much intolerance and fear in this country....I am so sorry. Wish I could give you a hug

right now.

[tekisui]

99. I'm sorry for that.

The pictures you put up here from you wedding were moving. And, I am still happy for you. If she can change her positions so easily, perhaps she will be back from her intolerance and ignorance some day.

:hug:

[Bluenorthwest]

100. My best to you Ronny

When your cousin speaks this bile, she is speaking not about you, but about herself. My guess is that you have many things she wishes to have, perhaps including a big loving heart and a good marriage.

[gademocrat7]

101. I am very sorry for the pain you are suffering.

You are in a loving relationship with your spouse. She must be a very lonely person. I hope that she will apologize to you both.

[npincus]

102. dear DU friend, your cousin owes you an apology

and when you are feeling a little better, put your thoughts down on paper and send them to her. She has betrayed you, and needs to be confronted with that, and perhaps understand herself better.

Be strong, you are wonderful and your friends at DU are joyful for your marriage!

:hug:

[ebdarcy]

104. I'm so sorry.

:hug:

[lonestarnot]

105. She sounds like bullshit to me. Go buy a pie and share it with her!

:evilgrin:

[dickthegrouch]

106. I'll add my commiserations too

Ronny you ROCK
Your cousin will remember that, hopefully, someday. I hope she has the fiber to be embarrassed about her behavior when she does.

And thanks so much for all you do here.

Dick

[DevonRex]

107. Ronny, I am SO sorry. I have relatives like that, too. My oldest

sister has bought into the Focus on the Family crap hook, line and sinker. When a family member believes that kind of crap, it really does feel like you've been punched in the stomach.

It seems to me that there are people out there who are more susceptible to that kind of BS than others. I don't know why.

My thoughts and prayers are with you. Remember please that even though your cousin did this, you have a whole community here who stands with you. We'll hold you up when you're overwhelmed. We'll defend you to all comers. And we'll listen when you need to vent.

:hug:

[Mother Of Four]

108. Ronny-

You are a passionate and intelligent poster that I've had a real pleasure to read.

When things like this happen, remember that you have something that many people wish with all their hearts they could have:
A true deep loving relationship with a person you can spend the rest of your life with.


My uncle Vic had a wonderful relationship that lasted longer than most marriages, more than half of my family wouldn't understand it or respect it. In the end, it was the person he LOVED with all his heart holding his hand when he passed on. Something treasured and complete.

Sadly he passed away shortly after we moved down here, and passed away at home (by choice, they wouldn't allow Uncle Frank in ICU with him because it was "Family only") They didn't have the chance to get married under all of the changes that were made since he passed on but those of us that supported him considered them married. As my dad would say "It's a paper, an important paper true, but in the end just a paper. It's the BOND that matters."

Keep cherishing the person you love Ronny, in the end the people you CHOOSE to love are so much closer than the family you are born into. The friends and loved ones I've chosen in this state (NC) are ten times the family I could ever ask for.

I honor you, I'm positive this love will last a lifetime- and I feel sorry for anyone around you that can't, or WON'T see it. They would be richer because of it.

[Joanne98]

109. Sorry.

[johnnie]

110. I'm sorry to hear this Ronny

I hope you are feeling a little better today. Some members of my family recently disappointed me with some things they have said about this election and it really saddened me. But I have to realize that "stupid" isn't something I can control in anybody, including family.

I hope your cousin explains to you why she feels this way and I think you need to confront her on this and tell her how YOU feel. Your feelings are just as important as hers. I know you still love her and you should tell her so, but also tell her that she let you down and you are hurt. She deserves at least that.

[Shakespeare]

111. Aw, ronny, sweetie, I'm so sorry.

That's just awful beyond words. I cried many happy tears when you posted your wedding pictures, and I'm so happy for you. I wish your cousin rapid enlightenment, and you much peace. :hug: :loveya:

[Gormy Cuss]

112. That just stinks, Ronny.

I'm sorry that someone in your own family treated you that way.
One for you :hug: and one for your husband.:hug:

And because this is in GD: P, I'll add:

This a good example of why civil unions aren't good enough. As long as there is a separate term for same sex marriage it will never be equal.

[Midlodemocrat]

113. Oh, sweetie. I'm so sorry.

What a vile, horrible person she is to do that. Your wedding pics were beautiful. The look of love on your face and Michael's face was beyond wonderful.

:hug:

[Vinca]

114. What happened to your cousin between 2001 and now?

Has she suddenly gone all Pat Robertson crazy or something? It seems family members can sometimes be the cruelest people of all. We're happy for your marriage if that's any consolation.

[mac56]

116. Ronny, I'm sorry this happened.

You don't deserve that.

[myrna minx]

117. I'm so sorry, Ronny.

:hug: You are one of the kindest, caring, thoughtful posters here, and I know we were all so happy for you when you announced you marriage to us. I am so sorry that your heart has been broken by someone who you love so much. That's the worst kind os pain: hug:

[ronnykmarshall]

118. Again, thank you ALL for your thoughts.

It's been a pretty rough day for me. Reading your responces has really cheered me up.

[AlCzervik]

119. and my offer still stands, i will be your cousin.

:loveya:

[ronnykmarshall]

120. Consider it done!!

:loveya:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

121. Act like you're not upset, then suggest her a nice trip to Rio.

Then I'll beat the living shit out of her, OK?

Nobody makes my friends suffer and walks away with all teeth. :hug:

[Arugula Latte]

122. Churches and religion are the root of most evil. I'm so sorry to hear this.

:(