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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:30 PM
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Is he REALLY bombing? Really?? Try to be objective.
So, how will it be received? I'm not watching, but know that our hate sometimes clouds our perception.
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White Mountain Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:31 PM
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1. Sounds like a state of the Union
laundry list.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:31 PM
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2. He is most definately bombing in our view...
but I guarantee, the busheetes will be praising this pretender to the sky come morning..

We have Kerry's speech tonight...dont forget that one...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:31 PM
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3. same old same old
Simplistic, like he's talking to children.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:35 PM
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14. He is talking to children
most republicans have the reasoning skills of a three year old.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:35 PM
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15. We will leave no child a dime. yep, same o same o
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:32 PM
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4. he's speaking clearly which is a surprise
the biggest problem I see is that he has been claiming these reforms for years and nothing has happened.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:32 PM
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5. I can't get passed his being a beedy eyed prick
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:32 PM
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That's what I mean -- neither can I!
n/t
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:32 PM
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6. He's doing so-so. Not too shitty, like that press conference
But not nearly as good as Kerry
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:32 PM
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7. not watching
...but I don't need to. I'm sure we'll all be informed by CNN et al how "Churchillian" he was.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:33 PM
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8. Nothing new.
nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:33 PM
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9. Anyone that talks of the need to fix schools who pronounces it "SKEWL"
Is bombing horribly.
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:33 PM
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10. last live press conference..
I called my mom and begged her to listen cause I was convinced I would wake up to a new america the next day.

They'll be comparing him to FDR... or Winston Churchill... yak or Lincoln...
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Queen Jane Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:34 PM
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11. I'm not watching (for my sanity), but...
I read the transcript, and I was pleasantly surprised by how bland it was. Even with people who don't know that most of what he's saying is a lie, I don't see how this is going to get him any momentum back.
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:34 PM
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12. Tweety, Blitzer, Jeff Greenfield, et al will love it
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:35 PM
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13. I'm not buying anything he's trying to sell
I can't possibly be objective about this little fuckturd, but I don't think he's doing particularly well.

All this shit about kids - he hasn't fully funded No Child Left Behind, and meanwhile, over the past four years, several million more children have slipped under the poverty line.

Blech.
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Safi Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:37 PM
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16. I'm pretty objective on these kinds of things...
He is delivering very well to his base and undecideds.

Of course we're like, STFU liar!

Its compassionate conservative platitudes and empty promises is what this is.

-Safi
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:39 PM
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22. That's what I figured/was afraid of
The media's gonna turn that into "effective" and "strong".

Let's hope (a) Kerry kicks it out of the park tonight and (b) that the media cover it
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:37 PM
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17. I turned the sound up and he's trying hard to enunciate well
He's talking so slowly and it's obvious they kept it simple. Now, he gave out his web address and then smiled like he stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plum. How embarrassing since he stole it from Kerry.

This seems so simplistic. And he's still a beady eyed prick.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:37 PM
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18. I am hearing nothing new
This sounds like every other speech he's given--and every other promise he hasn't kept.

:headbang:
rocknation
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:38 PM
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19. Amen
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:38 PM
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20. nothing new
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:39 PM
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21. I just talked to a pretty moderate friend of mine
with no party affiliation and her reaction was:

"Eh. Sounds like a stump speech. I've pretty much heard all this before."

So there you go. Just one moderate, but I like to keep in touch with them to see how the wind blows, because you are right, I am VERY highly biased against him and the GOP.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:40 PM
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23. It's A Good Speech
if he was running as a challenger instead of an incumbent. The question is "Why hasn't he done all of these things while he was president?"
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saccheradi Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:42 PM
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24. my thoughts exactly.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:42 PM
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25. I would be really suprised if the press didn't say "Home RUN"
He is SO PRESIDENTIAL! HE REALLY HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK! GOD HELP JOHN KERRY! THE RACE OFFICIALLY BECAME BUSH"S TO LOSE. HE ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR ANYONE ELSE? THAT IS THE WAR PRESIDENT!


SO okay, it will be touted as a home run. But in my humble opinion, it is like CHinese food. No one will remember it tomorrow.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:45 PM
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33. Brit Hume- Grand Slam
Barnes- he hit a 5 run home run!!!
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:55 PM
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37. Are they really saying this?
Jeezus, what does Karl Rove have on these old fart clowns?
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Rabelais Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:43 PM
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26. kind of boring
the delivery sucks as expected.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:43 PM
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27. He will get praised just cause he's not totally screwing up...
Talking slowly, looking pathetically grateful that people are cheering him.
Trying to be (God help us) witty.

Not at all inspiring, but the bar for him is so low.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:44 PM
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28. He is selling it big time to his base, not slurring badly like I'd hoped
I think he will get the indy voters who really WANT to believe that he will give them the tax breaks he's tlaking about.. the homeland security they think he can deliver...

but I think Kerry can really win more swing voters over.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:44 PM
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They have cue card as to when to do what.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:44 PM
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29. Lame...not a swing voter speech for sure.
But I only watched it and then went and read the transcript because his e-n-u-n-c-i-a-t-i-o-n was bothering me. It's like he had a mouth full of novacaine. :hi:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:45 PM
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30. No. He's lying really well
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:45 PM
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31. There's no overriding theme. Jumping back and forth between subjects.
It's tired stump speech phrases all thrown together. Nothing to see here.

Still no Osama. The forbidden word.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:45 PM
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32. Same Old Garbage. with a thousand rabid koolaid drinkers in audience. nt
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 09:45 PM by sonicx
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:46 PM
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34. Same old pap, but he seems sober.
He is saying all the old lines -- facing terra there so we don't face it at home, etc.

But since he is able to successfully read the lines, I'm sure it will be viewed as a "success" and "crisp" and "visionary"
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:46 PM
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35. Uh-oh. Protesters!!! Bush looks a little addled at the chant ...
Four More Wars!!!!
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:58 PM
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39. Crap, that probably inspired him !!
"FOUR more wars ?? Uncle Dick told me I could only have two !! Hot damn !! "
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:52 PM
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36. Same damn speech he gave 4 yrs ago.
Same words, same ungly puss.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:55 PM
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38. It's not bad, but pretty average
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 09:56 PM by RatTerrier
To be kind, it's the best speech of the Convention.

But that isn't saying much.

It's the same old cliches and catchphrases that we've heard before. Nothing exciting. He promises a few things, but why is this the first we've heard of it? He's already had 3 1/2 years to do it.

Dwells on the same old red meat GOP base stuff (defense of marriage, terra, Iraq, Kerry and Hollywood, evil IRS, etc.). Puts up vague statements, but doesn't explain how it will help (tax code reform).

All in all, about what I expected. I knew it wouldn't be a horrible speech, but I figured it would be fairly predictable.

Kerry, on the other hand, surprised many with his passion during his speech at the DNC Convention. I do wish he would have spent more time talking about his Senate career, since he accomplished a lot. The POW/MIA thing and the BCCI scandal are worth talking about.

So, my grade of Bush's speech (trying to be as objective as possible): A grade of 'C'. I'll bet I'm the kindest to his speech of anyone on DU. :evilgrin:
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