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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:38 AM
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Palin's "White Flag Of Surrender" Line Falls Flat

Palin's "White Flag Of Surrender" Line Falls Flat


The Huffington Post Rachel Weiner October, 2008 10:37 PM

Sarah Palin is touting the Surge, and America is apparently not that interested, according to CNN's reaction meter of Ohio uncommitted voters. Dial Line stays flat, flat, flat. Biden touts Obama's plan, the dial line shoots up. Especially at the idea of Iraqis taking responsibility. Women especially like the idea of the Iraqis spending their own money. Timetables get tepid support. Palin's accusation that Obama and Biden are waving the "white flag of surrender" sends the line plummeting.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/palins-white-flag-of-surr_n_131450.html">Link
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:49 AM
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1. Thanks for posting that. That statement really, really bothered me
because I couldn't believe the gall of saying it when they know good and well at least 70 percent of Americans want out of Iraq. I thought, did something change here? Feel better now seeing it tanked.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:38 AM
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8. The white flag of surrender
thing always turns my stomach. Reason being, so many idiots still think Iraq was a justified cause and remains one. You should live with the idiots in Ohio like I do. It is disheartening.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:56 AM
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I don't get why leaving is surrendering. Our mission was already accomplished! W's sign said so.



See? We already won!
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:56 AM
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2. I don't get why leaving is surrendering. Our mission was already accomplished! W's sign said so.



See? We already won!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:00 AM
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3. "Surrender" to WHAT, exactly? WE INVADED! UNPROVOKED! And we can simply, thus, DEPART.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 06:00 AM by WinkyDink
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:04 AM
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4. She also said "Victory" in regards to Iraq half a dozen times/
Gen. Petraus had put a moratorium on "Victory" talk, saying there is no such thing in Iraq, at least not for a long time.

I am sure he and other goppers where wincing each time she said it.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:08 AM
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5. The only thing that will be "lost" in Iraq is that bush* will lose face
*disputed electoral result
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:58 AM
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6. Yeah I hope the GOP keeps pushing that line
Americans hate it! We ALL have had a bellyful of George Bush's war for corporate profits in Iraq. That proved it last night!

Keep it up you warmongering assholes!
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:19 AM
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7. Considering that more than 2/3 of Americans want us out of Iraq
she was clearly playing to the Fox News watching base. It was a huge blunder if they want to attract independents.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:47 AM
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9. The real White Flag of Surrender
I think that if anyone has to answer concerning the White Flag of Surrender it would be McCain who agreed to provide information for medical care. If McCain is a hero because he got shot down and was a POW, I guess all those Germans that we captured and held here in the United States are also heroes. Not hardly, just some poor bastards that were being used for cannon fodder. In reality he isn't a hero and at best a lousy pilot. Nothing more than a gold digging gigolo who dumped his crippled wife for a rich bitch who could buy him a seat in congress. I find the hypocrisy of the Republicans revolting.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:49 AM
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10. Their 2004 shit's not working this year.
and we have the Chimp to thank.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:58 AM
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11. "White Flag of Surrender" was a mediocre, prepared line delivered at an inappropriate time
Here it is in context

*lead question*

IFILL: You both have sons who are in Iraq or on their way to Iraq. You, Gov. Palin, have said that you would like to see a real clear plan for an exit strategy. What should that be, Governor?

*snip*

IFILL: Senator?

BIDEN: Gwen, with all due respect, I didn't hear a plan. Barack Obama offered a clear plan. Shift responsibility to Iraqis over the next 16 months. Draw down our combat troops. Ironically the same plan that Maliki, the prime minister of Iraq and George Bush are now negotiating. The only odd man out here, only one left out is John McCain, number one. Number two, with regard to Barack Obama not quote funding the troops, John McCain voted the exact same way. John McCain voted against funding the troops because of an amendment he voted against had a timeline in it to draw down American troops. And John said I'm not going to fund the troops if in fact there's a time line. Barack Obama and I agree fully and completely on one thing. You've got to have a time line to draw down the troops and shift responsibility to the Iraqis.

We're spending $10 billion a month while Iraqis have an $80 billion surplus. Barack says it's time for them to spend their own money and have the 400,000 military we trained for them begin to take their own responsibility and gradually over 16 months, withdrawal. John McCain -- this is a fundamental difference between us, we'll end this war. For John McCain, there's no end in sight to end this war, fundamental difference. We will end this war.

IFILL: Governor?

PALIN: Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq and that is not what our troops need to hear today, that's for sure. And it's not what our nation needs to be able to count on. You guys opposed the surge. The surge worked. Barack Obama still can't admit the surge works.

We'll know when we're finished in Iraq when the Iraqi government can govern its people and when the Iraqi security forces can secure its people. And our commanders on the ground will tell us when those conditions have been met. And Maliki and Talabani also in working with us are knowing again that we are getting closer and closer to that point, that victory that's within sight.

Now, you said regarding Sen. McCain's military policies there, Sen. Biden, that you supported a lot of these things. In fact, you said in fact that you wanted to run, you'd be honored to run with him on the ticket. That's an indication I think of some of the support that you had at least until you became the VP pick here.

You also said that Barack Obama was not ready to be commander in chief. And I know again that you opposed the move he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that. I don't know how you can defend that position now but I know that you know especially with your son in the National Guard and I have great respect for your family also and the honor that you show our military. Barack Obama though, another story there. Anyone I think who can cut off funding for the troops after promising not to is another story.

IFILL: Sen. Biden?

BIDEN: John McCain voted to cut off funding for the troops. Let me say that again. John McCain voted against an amendment containing $1 billion, $600 million that I had gotten to get MRAPS, those things that are protecting the governor's son and pray god my son and a lot of other sons and daughters.

Source : http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/index.html
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