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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:17 PM
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What McKiernan Really Said
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/what_mckiernan_really_said.php

In tonight's debate, Sarah Palin mischaracterized statements by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, in which he said that an Iraq-like "surge" would not be appropriate for Afghanistan.

Palin asserted that one thing distinguishing John McCain's proposed policy in Afghanistan from President Bush's was that McCain thinks that "the surge principles that have worked in Iraq need to be implemented in Afghanistan, also."

In response Biden pounced, noting that McKiernan had come out against such an approach just today. Palin then hedged, saying that "McClellan" (meaning McKiernan) had not "definitively" ruled out using "surge principles" in Afghanistan:

Well, first, McClellan did not say definitively the surge principles would not work in Afghanistan. Certainly, accounting for different conditions in that different country and conditions are certainly different. We have NATO allies helping us for one and even the geographic differences are huge but the counterinsurgency principles could work in Afghanistan. McClellan didn't say anything opposite of that. The counterinsurgency strategy going into Afghanistan, clearing, holding, rebuilding, the civil society and the infrastructure can work in Afghanistan. And those leaders who are over there, who have also been advising George Bush on this have not said anything different but that.

But according to a report in Thursday's Washington Post, McKiernan was emphatic in remarks made Wednesday, that a "surge" would not succeed in Afghanistan. Here's what McKiernan actually said, according to the Post:

"Afghanistan is not Iraq," said Gen. David D. McKiernan, who led ground forces during the 2003 Iraq invasion and took over four months ago as head of the NATO-led coalition in Afghanistan.
Speaking in Washington yesterday, McKiernan described Afghanistan as "a far more complex environment than I ever found in Iraq." The country's mountainous terrain, rural population, poverty, illiteracy, 400 major tribal networks and history of civil war all make for unique challenges, he said.

"The word I don't use for Afghanistan is 'surge,' " McKiernan stressed, saying that what is required is a "sustained commitment" to a counterinsurgency effort that could last many years and would ultimately require a political, not military, solution.

Biden 1, Palin 0.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:17 PM
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1. I don't think Palin knows the difference between "surge" and
insurgency. Seriously. I think she is that stupid.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:19 PM
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2. Are we still fighting the Shia?
I thought they were now helping us fight Al-Queda? Or did I miss something?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:21 PM
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3. palin doesn't know shit from shine-ola.
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