Keith showed a clip of Biden tearing up about his children

[PatSeg]

and as usual I got misty-eyed once again. He then went to Rachel and Pat - they BOTH were blinking back tears!!! That man gets to everyone!

[Clio the Leo]

1. THANK YOU JOE!!!!! ..........

....... you were right, Hunter and Beau couldn't get another father ...... but we would have never gotten another Joe Biden!!!!

[PatSeg]

14. You are making me cry again!

That photo of a very young Joe holding his two toddlers' hands gets to me every time. He looks so young and vulnerable. God, I love this guy.

[Clio the Leo]

19. (passes tissue)...... well to cheer you up.......

..... imagine our Joe with that million dollar grin of his as he takes the oath of office, not a single one of his remaining hairs out of place.

The sun will shine a little brighter that day.

[PatSeg]

24. Okay, now you're making me cry again!!!

What a wonderful sight that will be!

[Clio the Leo]

28. well in that case, here's a llama.....

..... llamas always make me laugh.

[PatSeg]

32. Damn!!!

That DID make me laugh! Thanks!

[1corona4u]

35. Here ya go...

[PatSeg]

38. Behave yourself!!!

Okay, that was cute!

[book_worm]

2. That was the moment in the debate--the defining moment. It showed how human he is while Palin

just ignored his pain and went on with one of her glib, silly answers.

[PatSeg]

63. I couldn't believe that a mother of five

could just gloss over that moment and go straight to "Maverick" mode.

[ben_meyers]

3. Didn't Edmund Muskie do that too?

How did that work out for him?

[pnwmom]

8. He didn't have a reason like Biden's.

And that was a long, long, time ago.

[book_worm]

9. This was a lot different than Muskie breaking down and crying because the

Manchester Union Leader attacked his wife for being a drunk. This is a man who lost his wife and baby girl. I watched it with many people tonight and believe me every heart broke with him and we got to know the real man. I think many people responded to him and I do believe the instant scientific polls are showing it. You need to learn to put things in perspective.

[Debi]

11. Had Muskie's wife and daughter die in a car accident leaving him

to care for and raise two young boys alone?

Is today 1972?

:eyes:

[PatSeg]

62. I can't think of anything in my lifetime

that is comparable. Evidently, no one else can either, because I've never heard anyone put Joe down for his emotional reaction to his loss.

[Cha]

18. WTF! Does that have to do with this..

Fucking apples and oranges.

[Debi]

4. He's not afraid to show us his soul.

She's not afraid because she has none.

[Stuart G]

7. Excellent point...no soul..using her child as a prop proves it..

[PatSeg]

16. Her adorable little girl

shows more affection to the baby than Sarah does. Piper is a little doll.

[Stuart G]

5. Actually, I thought this was the single most imortant moment...

Biden with that experience, recalling a moment with his family that was horrific, and connecting to that moment in a personal way far out did anything that Sara could come up with...further...that moment connected with more people, than any other...
...In the same way, that Mc Cains awful mean attitude in the first debate connected..Those two moments may have won the election for us...

[PatSeg]

27. Good point

I hadn't thought of Joe's moment in comparison with McCain's meanness. Now add to that Sarah's insensitivity to the mix!

[ecstatic]

6. And after that, Failin never recovered nt

[PatSeg]

39. And she seemed a bit clueless to that fact

I wonder when it hit her.

[lolamio]

10. I just noticed the front of the Yahoo home page had that as a highlight.

I think it was the most poignant moment of any debate that I can remember.

[Stuart G]

12. I agree...Biden wins with being a sensitive person...Palin loses by being a female Cheney..

[PatSeg]

26. Exactly

Being a Cheney is bad enough, but to be a "female Cheney" with five children is really bad. She showed not one instance of heart or sensitivity during the whole debate.

[Jennicut]

13. It was a very real moment and showed Joe is a real guy people can relate to.

His son Beau is shipping out tomorrow to Iraq and he made another great comment at the end about being selfish and wanting God to really protect both their sons or something like that. It almost made me cry (again). I love that man.

[PatSeg]

15. What got me,

was the fact that Sarah didn't show any emotion at all. She has a son going to Iraq as well. Where is her heart and soul? Damn, I'm a mother. I couldn't pull off that insensitivity in public.

[tblue]

64. That is when Sarah lost America and the election.

Some people won't be able to put their finger on why they can't seem to connect with her. But their hearts know. It's something visceral and profound, and it has already left an indelible mark on the American psyche. This was a HUGE mistake, a HUGE missed opportunity. She won't get another chance like that to show the nation she's got a heart. And nothing, NOTHING she can do will fix that.

[PatSeg]

67. You summed it up

She's had opportunities to show a more sensitive, human side and she has passed those opportunities up over and over again. Maybe she thinks she has to appear "strong" because she is a woman, but she got one-upped by a real guy. I'm sorry, she hasn't shown any true sensitivity to back up her rhetoric about being a "mother of five" or "mother of a special needs child" or "mother of a soldier going to Iraq".

She could have done it so easily in just a few seconds of real emotion. What a lost opportunity (than god).

[tblue]

69. I have seen no kindness whatsoever in that woman.

She's toast.

Here's a goodnight :hug: for you. And another one for Joe :hug: .

[PatSeg]

71. That sweet little girl of her's

shows more kindness and sensitivity than she has.

Goodnight!!!

[grantcart]

17. The CNN tracking lines went through the roof literally you couldn't see them because they

bonded with the top of the chart

[Cha]

21. As it

should be.

[PatSeg]

22. Oh, thank you for that

It is good to know that most people can feel for him. He is so genuine and I've never heard anyone question his sensitivity.

[CBHagman]

20. Any way to access that clip?

Or will I have to plow through the whole debate?

[lolamio]

23. Mydd.com has a link. Scroll down the blog and bit and you'll see it.

[AspenRose]

29. Look in the DU video section too

[PatSeg]

34. Caution, bring some Kleenex though!

[PatSeg]

25. Oh crap!

Matthews is calling Palin on bringing the baby out after the debate at 11:00 at night, called it part of "stylistic points". He has shown no mercy to her tonight.

[question everything]

30. Biden was great in everything he said and did

so he did not go after Pain with sharp knives. He did not have to. He defended Obama and pointed out the shortcomings of McCain. If people did not get it - this is their problem.

[PatSeg]

33. According to the polls

People DID get it. Palin did better than expected, but Joe was close to perfect.

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. Yet she showed no empathy..... killer debate moment

AND YET SHE IS A MOTHER AND SAID NOTHING

[PatSeg]

36. Yeah

Its funny. It didn't sink in with me until later. I'm a mother and I wouldn't have been able to show so little feeling to his remarks. What the hell!

[Stuart G]

40. Absoultly correct...You have hit it exactly...and .....I might add..

........... that the fat lady has sung her last aria...and this long opera is over...


.........THAT'S ALL FOLKS.....
..."killer debate moment" damn...............:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[PatSeg]

42. I think there is a delayed reaction

to that moment. They both have sons going to Iraq and she switched to "maverick" rhetoric at such a poignant moment. I picture her waking up in the middle of the night saying "Oh FUCK!"

[Ichingcarpenter]

45. I don't...... it will be years later.... not that night

or even later.......look at her kids.



she has used her children for political gain......

[PatSeg]

47. What a depressing thought

but you're probably right. That little girl of hers seems to have more heart than she does.

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. Yeah, ..... I'm blistered as a male having raised two kids alone

without family around for thousands of miles.

My EQ is very high...... I tear up on that stuff.

I helped deliver both of my kids.

Her trip back from Texas .................. IS A LIE

[PatSeg]

52. Okay, now you're going to make me cry

I raised my kids alone too and my family wasn't around to help either. I totally relate to Joe even though our lives are so different.

Yep, that trip from Texas just doesn't work for me.

[tblue]

65. A big hug to you and all the wonderful daddies of the world.

Thankfully, I married one.

You are a hero. Your kids are SO fortunate to have you.


What did she say about TX? I forget.

[JI7]

46. how about the comment about his current wife and rewards in heaven

she disgusts me.

[PatSeg]

48. What the hell was that about?

I think she was trying to pay tribute to teachers, but it didn't come across very well.

[primavera]

Perhaps she meant that she hopes that their reward is in heaven...

... because under Republican educational policies, they sure won't be getting any rewards in this life.

[PatSeg]

57. Ahhhh, I think

that was it and she didn't even realize what she was saying.

[workinclasszero]

37. Damn that was real

I'm so proud to be able to vote for a man like Joe Biden! Barack Obama picked well. God bless ya Joe.:patriot:

[PatSeg]

41. My opinion of Obama went up quite a few

notches when he picked Joe. I don't think he's had one moment of regret either. I can't think of anyone I'd rather have behind me than Biden.

[workinclasszero]

43. I totally agree with you

What a guy to have in your corner!

[PatSeg]

44. I've been an avid supporter of Joe's for a while now

and he has not let me down. Tonight he was everything I could hope for and more.

[workinclasszero]

49. I think Joe's performance tonight will be a defining moment in the campaign

I see Obama/Biden putting even more space between themselves and Gramps & Gidget in the polls now.

Joe Biden was magnificent!:applause:

[PatSeg]

51. Gramps and Gidget?

I love it. That about sums it up. Seeing Obama and Biden together is so reassuring. I've never seen a ticket like this!

[workinclasszero]

55. ***I've never seen a ticket like this! ***

Me either! Imagine actually being proud of your President and Vice President again! What a concept. It used to be like that long ago.

I hope we can all get that feeling back Nov. 4. :)

[PatSeg]

58. Even the best tickets

I can remember, didn't come close to this one. We really need this.

[primavera]

54. I'm not sure

I know, I'm a hopeless cynic, but it was awfully strategic to be purely extemporaneous. Whether it was real or staged though, it was a brilliant move from a political point of view and, if it was staged, he pulled it off so flawlessly and so convincingly, I'm perhaps even more impressed by his subtlety and finesse than I would be by his touchingly tenderhearted nature if it was genuine. Either way, it was a very strong moment.

[PatSeg]

59. I understand the "hopeless cynic" mode

but I've watched Joe for a long time and when it comes to his family, he isn't capable of being "staged" or pretentious. That was genuine Biden!

[primavera]

60. Could well be

Although I describe myself as a cynic, I truly mean no disrespect to Joe by suggesting that it could have been acted: the VP's job is primarily a PR job. If he's a skilled enough presenter to pull something like that off so convincingly, he'd be an awesomely effective VP.

[PatSeg]

61. When it comes to politics,

I'm a cynic as well. Maybe that is why I'm so taken with Biden. If that isn't genuine, then like you say, he will be an "awesomely effective VP". Of course, if it IS genuine, he will be even more effective!

[tblue]

66. I don't believe for a minute he wanted to be that vulnerable. No way.

I don't buy it. Nobody wants to cry in public. Not Joe. Not Hillary. Nobody would go there on purpose.

[PatSeg]

68. I agree

Joe never wants to be that vulnerable, but it is inevitable for him. As some have said, he wears his heart on his sleeve and those who know him accept that.

[tblue]

70. You are my soulmate!

Good night again. See ya tomorrow?

[PatSeg]

72. You made my day!

Thank you and yes, I'll be here tomorrow!

[Lil Missy]

53. I thought that was a very touching moment. And Palin missed an opportunity to acknowledge it.

[PatSeg]

56. Yeah, and I think it was

because she was TOO prepared and too programmed. She was not prepared for the unscripted Biden emotional moment that many of us have seen before. That is a difficult moment to respond to, but any mother should know how to better than most.