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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:09 PM
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The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin XVI: Remembering Biden's Speeches in 2d Grade
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 12:11 PM by babylonsister
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-odd-lies-of.html

The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin XVI: Remembering Biden's Speeches in 2d Grade

01 Oct 2008 01:02 pm

She said the following:

I'm looking forward to meeting too. I've never met him before. But I've been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in, like, second grade."

Two things: when Palin was in Second Grade, Biden hadn't been elected to the Senate. And when she was in third grade, do you really believe she was hearing about speeches by Joe Biden? Who in the national press corps at the time were hearing about Biden's speeches in 1972?

She just lies. She can't help herself. She has a serious psychological problem: making stuff up, imagining things happened when they didn't, saying one thing in one interview and then directly contradicting herself in the next. She makes Stephen Glass look like George Washington. It's pathological. My list of undeniable factual lies from Palin is here:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-lies-and-li.html

The Lies And Lies And Lies Of Sarah Palin

29 Sep 2008 12:56 pm

I'm posting this because none of the direct, indisputably proven, factual untruths that Palin has uttered has yet to be retracted by this candidate or her running mate. When you have a leading politician running on a record of outright lies, and those lies are deemed irrelevant, you have a problem. Each one has been fact-checked to near-death. They are not the usual political lie - hyperbole, parsing, exaggeration, spin. They are factual, checkable, indisputable untruths.

Palin could not have asked her girls for permission to accept McCain's veep offer if she also says she accepted the offer unblinkingly and right away. Palin did fire a police chief even as she insisted to a reporter she hadn't. She did violate the confidential medical records of Mike Wooten. She hasn't met with any trade missions from Russia. She does not have any gay friends that anyone can find. She did not oppose the Bridge to Nowhere. She did not sell that plane on eBay. Her Teleprompter did not fail in her convention speech. Alaska's state scientists did not conclude that polar bears were in no danger. She did deny publicly that humans had anything to do with climate change.

Alaska does not provide "nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy," as she claimed. The gas pipeline she touts as her major "mission accomplished" has not broken ground and may never do so. She did not take a pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla. And on and on. Anyone with Google can check all of these out. Including reporters.

These are all documented, bald-faced factually irrefutable lies. More to the point: she refuses to cop to them or be held accountable for them or take questions about them. Until she does, we can rightly infer there is no reason to believe anything she says, and that includes her recent medical history. A liar like this cannot be taken on trust. We have to verify it all.

Release the medical records and tax returns now.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:12 PM
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1. Here comes Sniper Fire!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:15 PM
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2. Just what I was thinking. Interesting, isn't it.
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yorkie Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:20 PM
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3. I can only hope and pray real records will be released..
and not something phonied up. Now the real ones would make for very interesting reading.
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yorkie Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:20 PM
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4. I can only hope and pray real records will be released..
and not something phonied up. Now the real ones would make for very interesting reading.
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:23 PM
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5. Glad you brought that up, babylon sister.
I've been thinking about it for the past few days.

If Palin really had heard about Biden's speeches when she was in 2nd grade, that would mean either 1) she had an interest in U.S. politics at a young age; or 2)she was raised with people who were interested in politics.

In either case, it follows that she would continue to hear about politics for many years. It further follows that she would know a whole lot more about politics in the lower 48 than she does.

So she's lying.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:23 PM
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6. the Media Free Ride just keeps rolling
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:36 PM
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7. I don't think she really meant that literally
I think the snarky bitch was just trying to get a dig in at Biden's age...forgetting how old her baggage is.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:06 PM
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8. She hasn't heard yet that Iraq and 911 were not related.
I guess Alaska just gets the important news 'such as the Joe Biden'. Palin is a waste.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:08 PM
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9. I am in NO WAY defending Palin but
When I was in either first or second grade, I knew who the mayor of my town was (Raytown, MO). I still remember his name, Wheeler.

Some folks can be politically aware at a young age, especially if they live in a political household.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:41 PM
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11. A local mayor is a bit different than an obscure
senator from a different state, especially at that age. I know what I believe, that this is a bunch of bunk, but who knows? I don't think Palin knew last year who Biden was myself.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:11 PM
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10. That one-liner was so obviously written for her just to get media attention.
I can't believe any really thought she was sincere when she spouted that.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:55 PM
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12. Gov. Palin needs to be Impeached, now!!!
Gov. Palin is a Sociopath & a pathological Liar. She is unfit to be Gov., much less a possible Pres. of the USA. To even imagine that is horrific!
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