Common Racist Behavior !

[RagAss]

That's what McShitass showed tonight. I've seen it all of my life, so don't tell me what I "really" witnessed.

Goodnight,
Rags

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. "McShitass."

:rofl: :rofl:

[Billy Burnett]

2. Care to explain?

Thanks.

[blondeatlast]

5. Refusal to look Obama in the eye, for one thing. Obama made direct eye contact MANY times;

Mccain didn't return the common courtesy.

[RagAss]

Exactly. Common human response. The world saw it too....

I assure you this will be a bigger story outside of this country.

[blondeatlast]

13. I recently returned from Malaysia. They are VERY excited about Obama and I guarantee

this will be WIDELY talked about--and not in a positive way for McCain.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

9. McCain didn't even look at him when they shook hands at the beginning.

[WeDidIt]

19. Nor when they shook hands at the end.

He never ONCE looked Obama directly in the eye.

This is VERY racist behavior on McCain's part.

[shanti]

41. well, it CAN be racist

but my bet is that it is just mcLame's general ass-holishness. i've noticed his body language when dealing with people, and he is just not a warm or friendly person. he never allows anyone to come within an arm's length of him, like when he's shaking hands with constituants. even that photo of him hugging *, he is so stiff. there's something wrong with him...

[Lex]

3. some specifics would be nice

[madaboutharry]

4. I have been thinking this myself.

It appeared to me that McCain can't believe that he has to run against a black man. I really sense that he would never treat a white man like this. I don't care what anyone says about this, this is how McCain's refusal to acknowledge Obama looked to me.

[RagAss]

6. Yes. It was derision. And the refusal to look at him too......

As if Barack wasn't worth the effort for him to turn his neck a few inches to the left.

[blondeatlast]

10. Looking a colleague in the eye is the most common courtesy there is. McCain flat out REFUSED.

He had ample opportunity, especially when they shook hands.

Mccain didn't do it, the racist bastard. Not once.

[RichGirl]

17. His nastiness was made more glaring...

...leveled against Obama who is such a kind and decent human being.

[K Gardner]

58. It hurt me on a very deep level to see Obama treated that way. What a nasty little man McCain is.

[RagAss]

61. yes...it always hurts to see that...

[RichGirl]

12. He's going to lose to a black man!

To me McCain looked like a rude jerk. It makes me sad that some people treat other people this way.

[uppityperson]

7. Besides the "I won't look at you", what else? Serious question.

Thanks.

[RagAss]

15. You need more than that?

How about the "what he doesn't understand" preface to every response? How long would you put up with that in a conversation with someone?

[uppityperson]

20. I don't need more but was wondering if there was more since I heard little of the debate.

I was working and only able to catch the last bit ("I luv vets and the know I'll take care of them" blech) so was wondering what all he did and said. I didn't hear any of that, so was wondering.

That sounds like McBlinky was downplaying him to the extreme, and I see what you mean. Thanks.

And thanks for answering, I was serious since I didn't hear. Came home and checking on DU to see what happened.

[RagAss]

22. Gotcha....Hope you get to see a replay...It was obvious stuff to me.

[RichGirl]

21. It's beyond stunning...

that McCain would repeatedly say this to someone like Obama who is clearly extremely intelligent, when he chose a VP, who doesn't have the slightest understanding of anything!!

[intheflow]

38. He had some pretty aggressive body language.

He was obviously often seething under his very thin facade. His natural (PTSD?) instincts toward aggression and rage could have certainly been exacerbated by white privilege.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

8. It could be; but I was thinking that it's tough to look someone in the eye...

when you're lying.

[blondeatlast]

14. True, but there was no excuse, none whatsoever, when they shook hands. That was a deliberate diss. n

[RagAss]

24. Yes ... that was hideous !

[secondwind]

11. I have to agree.........especially since Jim Lehrer TOLD Obama to

look at McCain!!!

Why didn't Lehrer do the same to McLame???

Am I wrong?

[True_Blue]

64. Good point!

I hadn't really thought about that but now that you mention it - why didn't he tell McCain to look and talk to Obama?

[RagAss]

65. Because he and his generation are voting for McCain.

[secondwind]

16. Obama addressed McLame as "John", but McLame NEVER

called him Barack!!!

AND Lehrer told Obama to LOOK AT McCain!

Lehrer never told McCain to do the same.

Unbelievable.

[Princess Turandot]

23. He asked McCain to speak directly to Obama a few times..

which was the same thing he said to Obama. (He used the word 'speak' not 'look'.)

"LEHRER: Respond directly to him about that, to Senator Obama about that, about the -- he's made it twice now, about your tax -- your policies about tax cuts."

Transcript:

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/first-presidential-debate.html

[Raschel]

33. AND Lehrer told Obama to LOOK AT McCain!

What the hell? Did he say "boy" at the end of the sentence?

[TTUBatfan2008]

18. McCain's family has a history of bigotry...

Anyone remember the interview on CNN with him and his mom where his mom started saying she doesn't like Romney because he's Mormon? And of course McCain himself voted against the MLK holiday.

[RichGirl]

27. It's especially sad for his daughter.

[Obamarulz11]

28. Remember Public Enemy's song "by the Time i get to Arizona"

that gives clues about the MLK holiday and Mccain

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[TTUBatfan2008]

35. Did you even read my damn post?

Half of it was about McCain himself. The other half was about his mother making a comment that McCain himself LAUGHED AT on camera and then tried to play it off with the old, "She doesn't represent my views..." schtick. Watch the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSqmWC30ZRY

[Starry Messenger]

47. What is a "history of Islam"?

And why is Islam being equated with bigotry? I don't get this.

MPK

[chascarrillo]

52. It's a racist comment.

[EffieBlack]

60. You equate a "history of Islam" with a "history of racism?"

Wow.

[TooRaLoo]

25. I think he was also embarrassed about his lies and stunts this week,

and couldn't look him in the eye. Also might have been a tactic (not a STRATEGY, mind you) to keep him from losing his temper.

[RagAss]

26. It's not like the media is going to point this shit out, folks !

We're it !

[woolldog]

36. Actually the media has pointed out that he never looked at Obama

[Lady-Damai]

29. Mccain is a racist assclown.

Obama's lead in the polls is making undercover racist show their true colors. I bet Mccain felt intimated and weak against Obama. The only way not have a meltdown was not to look at him. And what's up with the obsession with Reagan?

[Raschel]

31. Of course he's a racist.

I have to say again, why else do you think he made appearances at NASCAR, Sturgis, small all-White towns, picked the redneck Palin for VP? He's pandering to any racist he can get a vote from.

(and I don't think that everyone at Sturgis or NASCAR is a racist, or rednecks,)

[Rocknrule]

39. Don't forget

"I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live"

[Raschel]

43. I forgot about that

How in the world did he ever get away with that one?

[POAS]

54. Don't forget his Korean size reference

from this debate. He was trying to make a point about the relative health of the South versus the North Koreans but couldn't do it without using a racial stereotype in the process.

[eridani]

32. Let's do some compare and contrast

Did he look Romney or the Huckster in the eye in their debates? If not, he's a generic cantankerous asshole. If he did, then he's a racist.

[Raschel]

37. Great suggestion

There is the possibility also that McCain is blind as a bat. Did you ever notice that his eyes are all glassy and reflect the light. Did he have some type of cataract surgery? Maybe he didn't know where Obama was! LOL

[Withywindle]

34. "what Senator Obama doesn't understand is...."

Talking down to him like he's a slow child. Everytime McCain does that, I get a flashback to B* talking as if every single person in this country is extremely stupid. When a white man does that to a black man, you can just hear the "boy" imposed in every fucking syllable.

[PatSeg]

40. Now that you point it out

it DOES look that way. As a woman, I had encountered the same behavior from a male Mideastern customer years ago. He wouldn't let me wait on him and spoke to me very briefly without looking at me. Really pissed me off at the time.

[Bluebear]

42. I think it was shame, not racism.

[Raine]

44. McINSANE was totally contemptious and disrespectful

toward Obama, I felt like smacking him upside the head! :argh:

[barack the house]

45. day. Let's not go there this is joyous day we know the score he voted against MLK . >

Let's do this regardless of the ridiculous r word. They have to come up with something better to dismiss what is the finest president in history in waiting. To me it more came across as McCain's betterness and shame at his dubious campaign against Obama, he knows it was wrong.

[sohndrsmith]

46. Anyone who watched this on C-SPAN would have no doubt

on this. They showed the debate with a split screen - and it was really unpleasant.

I can't (personally) guarantee 100% exactly what is in McCain's head (thankfully) or why he behaved as he did, and I don't happen to be black (as far as I know, anyway), but I have been on the receiving end of such pure derisive, dismissive contempt myself. It's not something I actively look for or expect, but having experienced it, it's immediately recognizable.

Considering past statements and behaviours McCain has made, it's not a stretch to conclude that an attitude of such an arrogant intolerance has racist motivations on some level (and I'm being generous). That McCain should have to waste a moment of his superior time bothering with his pesky opponent is just absurd, apparently... While it may just be a matter of McCain's overall contempt for anyone who challenges him, I was astounded at how blatant it was, and that makes me think McCain has a serious problem - and I do think racism is a component of that.

Whether McCain acts this way with those who oppose him in general or if it purely due to racism - or both - is just way too ugly and unacceptable. Either way, its' a deal breaker for me. I do have a *huge* problem with racism - which is unfortunately alive and well in this country... blecch.

If anyone should have a sense of propriety, respect for certain formalities, codes of conduct - you'd think it would be someone with military experience - in fact my guess is it'd be sort of unavoidable.

[olegramps]

49. McCain hates the thought that he is losing

McCain demonstrated to the nation that he is a slob. He is rude and condescending. He is just another privileged brat that was handed opportunities that he trashed graduating at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy which he got into solely because his father and grandfather were admirals. He can't stand the fact that Obama is beating him. His normal maladjusted personality is to beat up anybody who doesn't agree with him. He is noted for his uncontrollable temper. What a combination he and Palin would make. McCain would be in a rage over some imagined slight screaming I will nuke the bastards and Palin would be crying that God told me to bring on Armageddon as they wrestled for control of the button to end it all.

[RagAss]

53. Excellent points.

[RepublicanElephant]

48. i only learned last night that mcbigot's father was from mississippi...

...and pappy used to have a building at ole miss named after him.

all this was proudly proclaimed by trent lott on msnbc.

kinda explains a lot about mcsame.

[olegramps]

50. Yes it does explain a lot

His ancestors had slaves. That must really pique McCain that one of those uppity bastards is thinks he is good enough to challenging me, the great heroic POW. Lott and McCain have much in common.

[RepublicanElephant]

51. yep. here's some interesting mccain family history:

"John Sidney McCain Sr. (August 9, 1884 – September 6, 1945) was a U.S. Navy Admiral. He held several command assignments during the Pacific campaign of World War II. He is the grandfather of Arizona Senator and the 2008 Republican Presidential nominee John S. McCain III.

"McCain was born in Carroll County, Mississippi, the son of plantation owner<1> John Sidney McCain (b. Mississippi, 1851 – d. 1934) and wife Elizabeth-Ann Young (b. Mississippi, 1855 – d. 1922), who married in 1877. He attended the University of Mississippi and then the United States Naval Academy, which graduated him in 1906.

"His grandfather, William Alexander McCain (b. North Carolina, 1812 – d. 1863), died while serving as a private in Company I, 5th Regiment, Mississippi Cavalry, Confederate States Army. During his life, he owned a 2,000-acre (8.1 km2) plantation in Carroll County, Mississippi known alternately as "Teoc" (the Choctaw name for the creek it was located upon) and "Waverly", as well as 52 slaves."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._McCain,_Sr.

[madaboutharry]

55. Ideologies are often, not always, but often

handed down from one generation to the next.

I previously lived in Arizona for many years and there is an incredible amount of racism in that state. This is especially true in "upper crust circles" in Phoenix.

[RepublicanElephant]

56. i first noticed that when i heard about supreme court chief justice william rehnquist's past history

of turning away minority voters at the polls.

i wondered if a lot of arizona racism was due to 2nd and 3rd generation transplanted southerners.

[RagAss]

59. ...yeh funny how that just came out last night....explains a lot.

[Kind of Blue]

57. McCain has got it ALL going on. Everyone is right!

He is a liar. He is a racist. He is sexist. He is anti-military but pro-war. He's anti-diplomacy but a drama queen. He's got (has numerous) cancer(s) so he's fucked up physically and but has no compassion for the struggling middle class and kids without health care. He's such a mess.

[Danascot]

62. Not being able to look someone in the eye

is a sign of fear and submission. Take an example from dog behavior. The dominant dog stares directly at the lower status dog, and the submissive dog has to show subservient behavior and cannot look the dominant dog in the eyes. If he does, he gets taken down. McCain knew he was Barack's bitch from the get go. Even if people do not consciously understand what was going on, they know it on a gut level when they see it.

[RagAss]

63. Interesting. That's the first I've heard that theory applied to McCain

Could be.