Accuse me of "disunity" ... but the McCain campaign is high-fiving over WJC's View appearance

[scheming daemons]

Bill spent the entire interview subtly undermining Obama's campaign.


Dammit... I was starting to come around on the guy, but he keeps DOING THIS SHIT.


More "View" viewers were moved to McCain by this appearance than to Obama.

[Demi_Babe]

1. I totally disagree

[amitten]

2. Not everyone bases their opinions on what Bill Clinton has to say

(if you haven't noticed).

[scheming daemons]

3. He affects more people than you think....

[Jennicut]

4. and less then you think. Who cares as long as Hillary campaigns for Obama?

Distraction.

[scheming daemons]

8. There are millions of Democrats who consider Clinton the greatest President of the last 50 years

...and I was one of them.

They listen to EVERY word the man says.

[closeupready]

44. I NEVER thought that.

And I don't listen to a WORD he says. Everyone knows he's owned by the Saudis.

[scheming daemons]

9. There are millions of Democrats who consider Clinton the greatest President of the last 50 years

...and I was one of them.

They listen to EVERY word the man says.

[Anwen]

15. Well if he didn't change your mind,

or my mind, I don't see the big deal. :)

I too think Clinton was the greatest president of the last 50 years, and I listen to what he has to say, but in the end we all make our own decisions. Nobody will change their vote over this.

[scheming daemons]

16. You and I are high-information voters..... Bill's opinion sways low-information voters.

[Anwen]

18. Did he officially endorse McCain?

If so, I missed it. I don't think his display of respect for both candidates will change any Democrat's vote from Obama to McCain.

[scheming daemons]

20. Not "officially".... just said that McCain is "qualified" and that he "likes him".

:eyes:

Same thing.

[Anwen]

28. He said that about both of them.

He also made the case that the only way to vote is to vote for the Democrats!

Anyone who gleaned an endorsement for McCain out of that must really be stretching it. I wish he had been more forceful in supporting Obama, but I just disagree with you that people are going to change their vote over this. Much ado about nothing.

[WinkyDink]

31. "low-information voters" = Republicans.

[scheming daemons]

33. Not exclusively...... many LIVs voted for Clinton in '92 and '96.

[WinkyDink]

36. How do we know this?

[Sensitivity]

12. Hillary is campaigning for HERSELF. Obama campaign is a vehicle. SLAMMING MCSHAME OR PALIN

is NOT part of her speaches.

[timeoutofjoint]

6. I will not accuse you of disunity --and I agree. Bill C. still holds

lots of credibility for many.

[RichGirl]

11. As a strong Bill and Hillary supporter....

I did not like this interview. Rather than being effected by him, it makes me suspect.

Here's what I don't understand. Let's go to the extreme and consider that they want McCain to win so that Hillary can run in 2012. The problem with that is that if Obama loses, and it is thought that the Clintons were in anyway to blame, who would vote for her in 2012???? No black person! I don't think any women, like myself, who now supports Obama strongly would vote for her. I'm certain that there is no way she could win the primaries to even become our candidate...if she is precieved as being partially at fault.

[chascarrillo]

24. Well then, that excuses everything!

Jesus Christ.

[AllentownJake]

5. Obama should not even have him campaign for him

Put him on the sidelines. Say thanks but no thanks.

[yellowdogintexas]

7. put him out to help the down ticket folks, maybe? nt

[AllentownJake]

13. Nope

No media events at all. Let him be irrelevant.

[Hamlette]

19. I wonder if this is why Gore didn't use him?

Part of it is Hillary (for sure) but part of it might be Bill and how he sees his role as former president. Be nice to everyone?

[AllentownJake]

27. 2000 Bill Clinton was coming off of impeachment

Gore didn't use him to try to avoid the culture war.

[Hamlette]

39. that is certainly what we all thought

up to now

He is just not a great fighter for anyone but himself.

[Pattib]

10. And he wants to be the elder statesman of the party? No way, not after this shit!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. Pretty much validates everything we've been saying about him.

Meh.

[cali]

17. and then some. meh is right.

[ClarkUSA]

21. It's all about Hillary 2012 -- while she's doing her best to create plausible deniability

I thought Bill told reporters last week that he couldn't campaign for Obama "until his Global Initiative was over".
WTF is he doing the talk-show circuit to bolster McCain/Palin during the same time Obama is surging in the
polls, then? Why isn't he out on the trail? To tell you the truth, I don't want him on the trail after this latest
example of his Clintonian BS.

[obiden]

25. clintons are creating plausible deniability.

I was never counting on them.

[ClarkUSA]

30. Me too... although they fooled/are fooling some people here at DU about their intentions

Your skepticism, which mirrors mine, is well-founded.

Welcome to DU. I like your "handle". It's cute. :hi:

[obiden]

42. But Obama will win anyway

he's just that good. And thanks for the welcome

[ClarkUSA]

43. Yeah, are you watching his kick-ass economic address in Green Bay now live on MSNBC?

If you're not, watch it on YouTube -- he's just that good (as you so aptly said).

And it's a pleasure to welcome you (too many newbies these days are McCainiac trolls or PUMA sockpuppets).

[SmokingJacket]

37. Yep. nt

[Stop Cornyn]

22. The Clintons are DEAD politically. You should not be surprised that the corpse reeks.

[geek tragedy]

23. I've come to admire Hillary.

Bill is a player and a backstabber.

[OnionPatch]

26. That was the last straw for me.

I think Hillary has been great since the primaries, but Bill can stuff it. What a stooge.

[WinkyDink]

29. It would depend, would it not, on the listener's attitude towards the speaker?

[Zuiderelle]

32. Actually what he did is very smart. Not alienating people who DO like McCain...

like it or not, there are apparently millions who do.

[scheming daemons]

34. Wow..... talk about spin

[geek tragedy]

35. Yep, he was sucking up to McCain voters hoping they'd

vote for Hillary in 2012.

[Zuiderelle]

38. You anti-Clinton people are just hopeless.

Used to be funny, now just pitiful.

[geek tragedy]

40. I admire Hillary.

Bill has proven many times that fidelity is not one of his virtues.

[Meshuga]

41. I was just starting to be excited about Bill Clinton and he had to throw...

a bucket of cold water. I mean, what the hell is he trying to accomplish? :-(

[WeDidIt]

45. I was cool with Clinton after the convention

but then he goes and pulls this shit.

Fuck him. I'll never believe a word out his mouth or trust anything from him again.