**Check out this MAP of STATES giving money to Campaigns**

[MagickMuffin]

This is an interactive map, you can view it @ http://www.newsmeat.com/




:woohoo: And Obama just picked up another $9 Million last night.

[1corona4u]

1. snicker...

:-)

[Hutzpa]

31. You know thats right

B-)

[damndude]

46. to bad that's not the electoral map

[driver8]

2. Yeah...tell me AGAIN how this is a close race?!

Bullshit...

[MagickMuffin]

7. The media NEEDS this to be a "horse race" otherwise what would they have to talk about

the issues. Ha...Ha...HA

[torbird]

18. Yeah, what ELSE is going on?

It's not like anything important has happened since July. I wouldn't want the press to go back to sleep -- so keep those stories about war heroes and moose burgers coming, Katie!

[cynatnite]

11. That map shows that Obama is getting more money from TN than McCain...

but McCain is ahead in TN by double digits.

That map does not reflect the polls by any stretch of the imagination. It is a close race. If we believe otherwise then complacency takes over.

[MagickMuffin]

16. Well this map does have a date for the end of July

So, it isn't reflecting August yet. I still think it is very encouraging tho.

The map is about the MONEY being raised. Who gives a shit about the polls. They only poll a small percentage of voters and leave out the larger percentage of voters, so they aren't that reliable, IHO.

[cynatnite]

21. Polls are a statistical sampling of voters...

which represents the population. If you compare the polls and actual votes of 2004 you'll see they were pretty close together. Historically, they have been reliable.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. Wrong.

The polls REFLECTED the vote - they were the set up to the electoral fraud.

There was more electoral fraud in 2004 than in any previous election in our history, but the tweaked polls agreed with the vote results and gave the frauds cover.

There were "problems" with the vote in 30 states, many of which (particularly Ohio) were enough to give the election to Bush. This was borne out by the EXIT polls, which disagreed with both the pre-election polls AND the vote results. That disagreement is why they didn't do exit polls in '06.

Historically, they've been reliable UNTIL the republican owned media discovered that by owning the polls AND owning the media that reports on the polls they can say any damn thing they want. Who is there to argue?

[cynatnite]

29. Ohio may have been fixed...

I give you that.

If the votes were rigged we wouldn't have won in '06 the way we did. We'll have to wait and see how 08 plays out.

Oh, and I didn't know they discontinued exit polling.

They were doing a lot of it during the primaries, IIRC.

[RaleighNCDUer]

33. There was actually MORE fraud in '06 than in '04.

They just underestimated how much they would have to cheat.

Or, for the more conspiracy minded, they cheated just enough to give the Democrats nominal control of congress while preventing the Dems from getting enough power to DO anything with that control. That way they could blame the failures of the last 8 years on the Democratic congress - you haven't heard anyone saying THAT in the past couple weeks, have you? That it is all the Democratic congress's fault?

We should have had 10 more congressional seats, and 2 more senate seats in '06.

Many organizations stopped exit polling in '06. Some claimed they had to 'rexamine' the exit poll methodology to understand WHY the exit polls differed so much from the vote count. Of course, if you cannot allow the idea of electoral fraud to go public, any discrepancy MUST be because of flawed exit polling methodology. That's why, ever since 2000, the republican meme has been "unreliable exit polls".

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. Complacency is not the problem.

It is not a close race. However, the biased polls continue to show it to BE a close race, so they can make the stealing of the upcoming election believable.

This map reflects the relative strengths of the people actually involved with politics. Those who donate money = those who vote. This is a better reflection of the candidates' standing than any number of polls. Sure, a lot of the disinterested don't answer polls, but probably just as many will talk to pollsters and then never vote. Voting is bothersome, and you have to go out of your way. And everyone wants to look good so of course they say they WILL vote even if they have no intention of voting.

An honest pollster might try to get around that by only polling "likely voters", but that itself skews the poll because it doesn't take into account the newly registered who have not previously voted, and it under-represents students and other young voters who may be very interested, but are also very mobile.

You CANNOT trust the polls. The ONLY polls that are worth a crap are exit polls - and that is why they no longer use exit polls - they are too likely to expose the electoral fraud.

[cynatnite]

28. Here...

Gallup Poll dated Oct. 22-24, 2004

Bush 51%
Kerry 46%

http://www.2004dnc.com/polls.htm


Actual election results...

Bush 51%
Kerry 48%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/

In 2004 I swore the polls were wrong and not reliable. I said they were biased, too. I was wrong.

That map reflects money being given...not the voting. How can you believe otherwise when EVERY poll that exists continues to say this is a close race?

[RaleighNCDUer]

36. Did you look at the polls in your link?

6 of the 10 favored KERRY.

Gallup, SurveyUSA and Rasmussen favored Bush. But you are talking as if "the polls" only reflected THEM.

Gallup and Suvey USA have been republican slanted for years. Some here swear by Rasmussen but they, too, seem to favor republicans.

But the polls by American Research Group and Zogby are to be ignored? It wouldn't occur to you that maybe THOSE polls, which agreed with the EXIT polls, were right and that the election was stolen?

It may be a close race. Maybe this map just shows that Democrats have more money than republicans. Or maybe it reflects what the PEOPLE are thinking instead of what the DREs are thinking.

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. Oops.

double post.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

3. I'm sure....

....with my HUGE $40 donation about ten minutes ago that FL will be a little bluer this morning. :-)

[rateyes]

4. I see that Arizona is red, and Alaska is blue.

Just sayin'

[MagickMuffin]

8. But Texas is BLUE

What about that, maybe we have a chance after all.

[d_b]

9. Obama

was down only 4-5% before he chose Palin. Errr, I hate that cock sucker McCain.

We're still gonna send Begich to the US senate :D

[d_b]

5. w00t

look at Alaska =D

[grantcart]

6. And if you look at giving in AZ since June the numbers are almost the same

[Kitty Herder]

10. OMG! Utah is blue!

That gives me just a tiny bit of hope for my state.

[Arugula Latte]

35. And Idaho!

:wow:

[TechBear_Seattle]

12. And on a related note...

Bush ratings go down the hole




http://pollkatz.homesead.com

[blogslut]

13. Texas is baby blue!

Exactly why I hope Bob Barr fails in his effort to keep Obama off the ticket here. If Obama takes Texas, we win. Period. Call me crazy but I think that McSame will lose the Lone Star State - Bob Barr or no Bob Barr. The sleeping giant is awake.

[MagickMuffin]

19. Ya know I'm thinking the same thing

I think there is a very big possibility that we could turn the Lone Star State BLUE, as well.

Yee---Haw, blogslut, we'll have to have a big ol Barn Dance for Barack. Maybe we will be invited to the Yellow Rose of Texas Ball in DC.

[yellowdogintexas]

24. hi MagickMuffin!

I too have felt optimistic about Texas. Now if we can just be sure all those displaced Houstonites get to vote..Houston is pretty blue. I sent an email to Lon Burnam and Dan Barrett this morning querying that

[MagickMuffin]

30. Hey, yellowdogintexas

:hi:

Let's hope everyone who are displaced by Ike will be able to vote, I guess we'll find out soon enough. McCain will probably challenge them if they vote Dem, like he's trying to do with home foreclosures.

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. Barr is trying to keep Obama off the ticket?

I'd not heard this. How could he possibly keep the Democratic nominee OFF the ticket? What's his rationale?

[blogslut]

34. Technically, he's trying to keep both Obama and McSame off the ticket

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D9388CTO1.html">link

Barr sues to keep Obama, McCain off Texas ballot

09/17/2008

Associated Press

Libertarian Party presidential nominee Bob Barr is trying to get the names of John McCain and Barack Obama removed from the election ballot in Texas.

Barr said Tuesday he had filed a lawsuit seeking to remove the names of the Republican and Democratic presidential nominees because he said they missed the official filing deadline to be on the Nov. 4 general election ballot.

Barr's campaign is arguing that because neither of the candidates had been officially nominated by their parties by the official filing deadline then it was impossible for the candidates to file under state law.

Randall Dillard, a spokesman for the Texas Secretary of State's Office, told The Associated Press the ballot was certified on Sept. 3...

[merh]

14. that says so much more than any friggin poll could ever say

The polls don't mean shit these days and folks need to get over them. Let the RNC wallow in them, rely on them, have some sort of false sense of security because of them.

Keep working for Obama/Biden - grassroots efforts - word of mouth, those are what work, not the polls, not the negative -

[medicswife]

15. I know why Kentucky is darker blue than TN

There are two Army bases in KY. I saw a stat not too long ago that says deployed troops give 6:1 to Obama over McCain. I'd love to see some more stats on how the Military vote is leaning.

Guess it's time to dig out my google again.

:bounce:

[smartvoter]

17. If you could post the link to that stat, we could beat them over the head with it. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

20. All sources point to this study

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html

[yellowdogintexas]

26. that is amazing.

I am heading up that way this weekend, it will be interesting to eavesdrop when I go to Clarksville with my sister, since she shops where the soldiers do.

However, a question (and I should know this, but I have forgotten, so bear with me)
Fort Campbell is legally KY due to the post office and Base Command being in KY. Does that automatically mean all the on base housing residents are registered to vote in KY (assuming they don't exercise their right to absentee from their home precinct)

I DO know a lot of the off base residents live in Tennessee making them an unknown factor.

[kansasblue]

32. NEBRASKA in the OBAMA column! Sweet

Go Big .... BLUE!

[SIMPLYB1980]

37. Yay NC!

[seafan]

38. Florida is a lovely shade of AZURE. Great news!

http://www.newsmeat.com/

[vaberella]

41. Azure!! Bwahahahaha!!!

:rofl: I'd kick this if it was a thread...I'll kick it anyway.
:kick:

[vaberella]

39. I'm a New Yorker, we always stay True Blue...except for the damn Klan upstate. n/t

[Clio the Leo]

40. Thank you! Does my heart some good to see TN a shade of blue...

.... that may ALL be coming from me though ....but it's good to know my (ha ha, I know it's really "our") efforts are actually tangible.

[jillan]

42. ugh - I live in Arizona!

How embarassing.

[grace0418]

43. I helped make Illinois deeeeeep blue!

We love our Senator!

[progressoid]

44. Wow, that's amazing!

K&R!

[nichomachus]

45. Amazing -- not what you'd expect

McSame has Arizona, which is to be expected, but not TX, which is odd. He's got OK and LA, two big oil states, and three cracker states, where you'd expect the fundies to ante up. He's got a slight edge in North Wherever, but since there are only 57 people there, it doesn't mean much.

I think I'll make CA a little deeper blue today.

[TEXASYANKEE]

47. Palin effect

It will be interesting (or not) to see how this changes once Palin is factored in. Did her addition to the ticket activate the party faithful enough for them to start sending in money? I know that McSame's fundraising was enemic prior to her addition.

[Liberal Gramma]

48. Do we have this same information for 2004?

It would be interesting to see how the fundraising for Kerry compared with the electoral votes.

[Liberal Gramma]

49. Aha! I found the historical fundraising info

at PoliticalMaps.org

2004: States that Democrats outraised Republicans were AL, WA, OR, ID, CA, CO, NM,LA, MS, MN, IA, IL, WV, PA, and all of New England with the exception of DE.

2000: IL, NY, NJ were the only three Democratic fundraising victories.

Interesting.....