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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:04 PM
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Anyone else think Obama should run a negative ad on the vote rigging efforts?
As laid out in this article, "‘Jim Crawford’ Republicans, The GOP is working to keep eligible African-Americans from voting in several states," there are already numerous demonstrated cases of Republicans trying to suppress Democratic votes in the upcoming election.

I think the Obama campaign should run a negative ad on it. No one can defend vote-rigging, and people would be offended by the Republicans' behavior. McCain, like usual, would play the victim card and many in the media would say he's too "honorable" to steal votes. But I still think it's worth it.

As it is, no one knows about this issue besides political junkies. A negative ad would give it more exposure. Plus, it would have the added benefit of throwing a scare into the Republicans. They'll still try to steal the election, but if this becomes a hot issue they'll be less blatant about it.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:06 PM
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1. Absolutely. K&R -
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:06 PM
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2. Or make it the issue for the week no doubt, this kinda shit is disgusting
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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12. I agree. This has to be THE issue while there is still some time left
Abso****inglutely
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:07 PM
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3. Yes. Not only for strategic purposes, but also to alert others who might
be at risk, too.


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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:07 PM
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4. the TRUTH is NOT negative :-) nt
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:08 PM
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6. Yes get that out there.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 PM
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15. Exactly.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:07 AM
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38. You are right. The voting issue should be reframed.
Obama can do it forcifully and he will come off positively fighting for the people's rights.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:08 PM
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5. I think the Obama campaign had better DO SOMETHING about it!
By the way, what can they or we do legally speaking?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:18 AM
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40. kick
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:08 PM
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7. Hell yeah!
He should run an ad every time there's evidence of attempted vote rigging - to warn the people who are about to be disenfranchised! Chances are excellent that most won't know until they show up at the polls - and that's exactly what the pukes are counting on. If the Obama campaign doesn't clue them in who will? Nobody.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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8. They should run a good government warning
They shouldn't run a negative ad. They should say, "If you are one of the millions who inadvertently received an absentee ballot from the McCain campaign, throw it away. It's wrong, and if you use it, your vote will note count."
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:56 PM
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25. The problem with that approach is the media will ignore it. Media likes negative.
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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9. I agree, the truth is not negative
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM by tazkcmo
And an ad dealing with this subject would cross party lines. Not just Dems are losing their homes, after all.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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10. Yes....Impose the 'Bush Doctrine' immediately!
Says the gal from Indiana.

Hey McSame....Call me! :smoke:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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11. ABSOLUTELY!!!
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 PM
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13. And most importantly let the voters know where or who they
should call to confirm they are eligible to vote.

We are 50+ days out, every voter needs to take control of his or her vote.

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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:15 PM
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17. Good point.
It could be a public service message and a (justified) anti-McCain ad all in one.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:10 PM
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14. fuck yeah, it would be absolutely criminal not to.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 PM
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16. He should hold it to the light of day and speak the truth about it.
In my book that's not negative.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 PM
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19. Yeah, but the point of making a negative ad out of it is so it gets more play in the media.
If it's too earnest sounding, they'll just ignore it.

Best to throw in some foreboding music and sinister shots of John McCain.
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donna123 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:18 PM
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18. His campaign needs to help those people
get ID cards or whatever, if that's what it takes
It isn't a matter of helping everyone register to vote
it's a matter of helping those who are going to vote for Obama register to vote

and news coverage also helps of course
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:22 PM
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20. He won't touch it...
That Fascist elephant in the room would squash him like a bug. Presidential sElection fraud is American "Democracy's" dirty little secret... it keeps things orderly and tidy while keepin' the po' folks in line and prayin'. Can't have those upitty slaves askin' fool questions. Now go get me a nice cool glass of ice tea and leave things be...
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:26 PM
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21. sounds like a plan (n/t)
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:29 PM
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22. YES! YES! YES!

It ties McCain to Bush Rove.
Shows McCain is a slime and contradicts his reform fake message
Will energize Obama supporters.

Something along the lines of .....While Americans are busy trying to stretch the family budget to pay for rising food and gas prices, John McCain and the Republicans are busy trying to take away your right to vote.

And at the end maybe a well respected military person to say in the military we swore to uphold the constitution, and that commitment did not end with retirement. Senator McCain your actions are dishonorable ...... I wonder if Webb would do it?

This country is in desperate need of a few heroes to stand up and speak the truth.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:34 PM
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24. I like it. The media couldn't ignore that ad.
And they've got the evidence and newspaper articles to back it up. It's all true.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:33 PM
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23. Oh yes, JOHN MCCAIN IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN
to ensure your vote does not count. That America does not get the change it needs.

Don't John McCain and The Republican Party take away your right to do your civic duty.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:18 PM
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26. Kick. Enough Palin, let's focus on how they plan to STEAL this ELECTION
from the people who deserve much, much better.

A million ballots sent out in Ohio thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7037178
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:31 PM
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27. One of the very best moves of his political career. k*r
and a gift to the nation, a dose of truth.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:01 AM
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28. Yes
it's time Obama fights back. Republicans are cheaters/liars.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:21 AM
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29. One of the 527s could take this on -- I'd consider it a Public Service Announcement. nt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:58 AM
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30. Agree. This is a perfect 527 topic.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:02 AM
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31. I'm not sure this is the right issue to attack on right now
It almost sounds like complaining about losing already, when we are planning on winning.

There are so many issues we can attack them on, maybe better targets should be found.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:04 AM
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32. He should just talk to the camera and call out John McCain to stop
denying Americans their chance to vote.

Ask him if he ever thought the America he fought for ss valiantly would come to this; trying to trick people to giving up their right to vote.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:04 AM
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33. Hit 'em hard and often. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:04 AM
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34. Better a message for people to verify their registration.
Call to action, so we can do something about it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:04 AM
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35. At least an awareness message, like every week, then every day!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:05 AM
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36. They should frame them as public service ads.
That's really what they are.

"Warning! McCain may be trying to STEAL YOUR VOTE!"
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:06 AM
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37. A MUST!!! How the hell can we get this message (among others) to Obama's attention?!?
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:08 AM
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39. Yes! It would serve the added bonus of making people aware that they need to
check on their voter registration and make sure they haven't been purged.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:23 AM
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41. Don't think he should be mentioning "rigging efforts" but accentuating the importance...
of securing one's responsibility as a democratic citizen, one's franchise & entitlement that flows from being a voter in America 2008 :patriot:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:58 AM
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42. Fuck YES!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:59 AM
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43. Someone should, and if not the Obama campaign, then the 527 groups. nt
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:31 AM
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44. NO! let the media pick it up. if obama takes on this issue, heres whatll happen:
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 04:33 AM by goletian
the rove party will say, "look! theyre already makin excuses!!!!" theyll find some way to play down the issue, disassociate mccain from it or whatever. itll just be bad. let the media do it. it will be bad for morale.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:59 AM
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45. What if they don't? nt
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:02 AM
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46. I agree
If they start talking about stolen votes right now, while the polls are going in McCain's favor, it may look like our side is already admitting defeat and making excuses for why Obama lost. There may be a time, but this is probably not it. Let's get ahead in the polls again first.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:10 AM
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47. MANDATORY!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:13 AM
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48. They're probably concerned about stirring up racial fears...
...and having it backfire on them.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:16 AM
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49. Absolutely ~ a warning AD right now, in every state
not just the RED ones.

It should be called something like --- We're on to you Carl Rove, don't you mess with our vote!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:20 AM
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50. Absolutely
And run an organized effort to make sure every voter is eligible and able to vote without long waits.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:22 AM
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51. Yes, and an accompanying ad on how to combat it
Probably some clever person could even combine the two effectively.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:00 PM
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52. YES! Because GOP vote-buggering strikes at the very heart and soul of our Democracy.
It shouldn't even be a "partisan" issue, but because GOP has utterly sold it's soul to the Devil (the
Father of liars), the GOP has MADE it appear to be "partisan" when Democrats insist of fair elections.

The GOP has become the party of liars, cheats and criminals; and all but the most stupid and ill-informed
voters already know this deep in their gut, but need to be reminded of this often to counteract the TV
induced stupor caused by M$M dumbed-down stupid sound-bites about lipstick, flag-pins, and such.

If the ads were well-done, and beamed into these swing states being targeted by the GOP dirty tricks,
to alert voters of the issue, and how to make sure their vote counts, and where the ad comes off more as
a public service than a slick campaign "attack ad", then YES, YES, YES ... by all means, go for it.
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