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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:39 AM
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New Biden Slime email going around
I think this has to be complete BS since Biden is not a rich man. Anyone know the real story?


Subject: Stiffed
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:26:48 -0500
From: xxxxxx
To: xxxxxx




//
*Draw your own conclusions...*

To whomever---

I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

I have been "stiffed" three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.
Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it first hand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.
I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

Best Regards,

Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
BDR Associates, LLC
2401 Research Boulevard, Suite 101
Rockville, MD 20850

Work - (240) 631-1981
Cell - (301) 580-7800

Fax - (240) 631-2778
Website - www.bdrtax.com <http://www.bdrtax.com/>

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:45 AM
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1. .
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bidendebt.asp

From City Data — ROCKVILLE, MD Political Contributions by Individuals

Bruce D. Riddle, (Zip code: 20852) $4600 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 05/16/07…

Bruce D Riddle (BDR Assoc/CPA), (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 03/31/07…

Bruce D Riddle (BDR Assoc/CPA), (Zip code: 20852) $4600 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 03/31/07…

Bruce D Riddle (BDR Assoc/CPA), (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 03/31/07…

Margaret Riddle (DMI Development Inc/Controller), (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 03/31/07…

Bruce D. Riddle, (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 12/07/07

Margaret Riddle, (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 12/07/07…

Bruce D. Riddle, (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 12/07/07

Margaret Riddle, (Zip code: 20852) $2300 to HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT on 12/07/07…


From City Data — ROCKVILLE, MD Political Contributions by Individuals

Mr. BRUCE D RIDDLE, (Zip code: 20852) $1900 to FRIENDS OF HILLARY on 03/13/08

Mr. BRUCE D RIDDLE, (Zip code: 20852) $2100 to FRIENDS OF HILLARY on 03/13/08
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:47 AM
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4. Exactly...
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:54 AM
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12. Oh sure "exactly" what they want you to think...
You aren't being swiftboated, you're being *watch the birdied*
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:01 AM
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17. You know what...he's a fucking liar anyway...
He said;

"I sent a private e-mail to 6 family members some time ago about
Joe Biden not paying his bills for services rendered. The e-mail was
private and contained my contact information. One of those family members
sent it to two other people. One of those other people stupidly sent it to
the world with my contact information included.

I have been bombarded with phone calls and e-mails to the point of not
being able to work or lead a normal life. Since the e-mail was sent out
the bills have been paid in full. This matter is closed.

I would appreciate you helping me share this with the world so it will die
a natural death."

---------------------

Now, why in the world, if you were writing FAMILY MEMBERS, would you use verbiage such as; "my mother and father", and tell your FAMILY that; "I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position
in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage
jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the
public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of
air time. He paid every penny."




I'd think FAMILY members would already know that. He lied, and I think he just didn't expect the backlast he got. Maybe he intended this to stay in his circle of family, and friends, but I think he just put it out there, not expecting the shit storm he got.



Oh well, it's done.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:03 AM
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18. Yep
People think we're stupid, remember....
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 AM
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19. Yeah, we're just a bunch of stoopid
pinheads. NOT.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:45 AM
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2. snopes says the author has rescinded this and has been paid in full
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:49 AM
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7. Forgot to check snopes. Got to remember to have coffee before emails.
Thanks.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 AM
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8. Thanks for that update.
I was unaware that they had it. Good. We can put this to bed.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:46 AM
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3. It's been out there for a couple of weeks...
and while I think the whole thing is bullshit, if Joe has debt left from his campaign this last year, it doesn't mean he is not going to pay it. He still owes about 175K. One thing that pissed me off, maybe the fact that Biden had brain surgery shortly after his campaign, in 1988, could be the reason he forgot to pay this rightwing hack. Just a thought, if it's true at all.

But, as you said, it's a slime email. Nonetheless, I'd like Joe to slam this guy against the wall. I'm sure Joe would not knowingly stiff anyone, and if he did, I bet there was a good reason.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:48 AM
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5. the rove smear machine is going full throttle.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 09:49 AM by alyce douglas
sickening. The Party of Hate, they promote it.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:49 AM
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6. OLD SLIME -- Ooooh Biden has an unpaid campaign expense bill !!
OMG OMG Biden hasn't paid one of his campaign bills !!

If this is the worst they've got on Joe, no wonder he was chosen as the VP.

Compare that to the heap of abuse of power stuff on Palin.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 AM
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9. So true....
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:51 AM
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10. wow, I'm trying to generate some concern about it...wait...wait...
nope, its gone.

sorry, can't get concerned about mudslinging lies. what else you got?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:56 AM
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14. You think I'm a concern troll lerk?
Do a post history search before drawing conclusions.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:58 AM
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16. nope, I'm referring to whomever is sending out that email
sorry for the confusion.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:52 AM
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11. "Always being honest"?
That excludes McSame and Caribou Barbie from your choices then, doesnt it?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:55 AM
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13. Thanks everyone. A simple snopes search should have been my first action.
I hate slime emails before coffee, I react emotionally and not rationally.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:57 AM
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15. I worked on the 1988 Biden campaign
I worked as a field grunt for the Biden campaign in 1987.

When JRB dropped out of the race, the campaign's first priority was to make sure that the young kids working in Iowa, NH, and the national office received their pay checks and expense reimbursements.

The fact that Biden took care of a bunch of idealistic twentysomethings before the major creditors says a lot about the character of the man.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:30 AM
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20. Ditto for the 2008 campaign
I didn't work for the campaign but have stayed close to several of the folks that did - and he paid them FIRST before his other debt.

The Bidens are a family of loyalty and honesty.

You're lucky you get to be part of that clan! :hi:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:11 AM
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21. Ha! The e-mail author has rescinded his charge and now states all the bills are paid in full!
He's whining because he's been deluged with communications as a result of his e-mail.

Good.

:evilgrin:
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