Eugene Robinson on KO brings up good point

[justiceischeap]

Has the Palin "mythology" become so large that the public won't believe the truth over her lies.

That's beginning to worry me. I know, thanks for my concern but there may be a method to the repeated lie madness and I think that may be the outcome. East Coast media is lying about Palin because they're big, bad monsters.

[spanone]

1. half the people think iraq was involved in 911 so.........

[cottonseed]

2. John Feehery, R Strategist, "These little facts don't really matter."

This is from a Kos post titled, "McCain/Palin '08: The Lie Is The Plan", by Hunter:

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John Feehery, a Republican strategist, said the campaign is entering a stage in which skirmishes over the facts are less important than the dominant themes that are forming voters' opinions of the candidates.

"The more the New York Times and The Washington Post go after Sarah Palin, the better off she is, because there's a bigger truth out there and the bigger truths are she's new, she's popular in Alaska and she is an insurgent," Feehery said. "As long as those are out there, these little facts don't really matter."
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Reminds me of what they were saying during the war, something about them creating reality and all we can do is write it done.

[justiceischeap]

4. "...she is an insurgent..."

Gotta love the wording, likening Palin to a terrorist.

[MadMaddie]

8. Nazi Propagandist Joseph Goebbels

GOEBBELS' PRINCIPLES OF PROPAGANDA

http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html

Sounds familiar? I would not put it past the Repugs to actually be using Goebbels principles.

[Gabi Hayes]

3. tha's why the dems MUST start calling them LIARS, using the L word, and do

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[Number23]

5. How can somebody become a "myth" in only 12 days???

I like Eugene Robinson but this seems to be a needlessly pessimistic and ridiculous thing to say.

[kath]

6. The Mighty Wurlitzer is VERY powerful...

[justiceischeap]

12. The media is totally complicite in that role

Look at the turn-out at his stops since Palin joined the campaign.

[Number23]

13. Well there's no question that she has "energized" the Repub base

No doubt about that. But the idea that she has become a myth, legend or hero and no one knows ANYTHING about the woman sounds a bit pannicky. And what we do know about her ain't good.

Any "hero" that can be built up in less than two weeks is destined for a tragic and completely obliterating fall, no matter how steadfastly they are propped up by a trifling media.

[justiceischeap]

15. But that's my point

Rational, thinking people see the truth about her. I'm referring to the other people, who only use their head to hold their ears. If we're to believe that McShame's "hold" on women has gone up, what 12%, then there has to be something to the whole "mythology" of Palin.

[Number23]

18. I think we just have a slight difference of opinion on terminology

You think it's feasible to use the term "mythology" for Palin and I just don't see that. "Excitement" sure, but it has nothing to do with some mythology IMO. It's just the excitement that there is someone fresh and new on the scene. The excitement and energy surrounding Palin seems to have nothing to do WITh Palin, if what I'm saying makes any sense. Since the excitement has nothing to with her or her record but everything to do with the fact that she's a new (female) face on the scene, I don't see her as any type of myth and I don't think that the misguided women who are flocking to her do either. They just want someone with ovaries in the White House.

She was in the right place at the right time and that appears to be the extent of her "mythology". But I think we both do agree that she will burn out soon. There is simply no way that someone of her mentality could not.

[elleng]

7. "If you tell a lie big enough

and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels

[RichGirl]

9. The moronic right will believe anything they are told.

Those who have been caught up in the excitement of Palin (excusing me while I go and vomit....okay...I'm back) those people will believe her lies but will also believe the stuff they keep reading while they are in the check out line at the grocery store.

[cyndensco]

10. Isn't it Rove 101?

Repeat a lie often enough, and some will believe it?

[Overseas]

11. Darling Sitcom Sarah wouldn't keep saying it if it weren't true, would she?

And yes, wonderful Eugene Robinson is right -- Republicans calculate just that way. Lies repeated become part of the truthiness of the image.

Reporters correct the bridge lies a couple of times and then get tired. So the lie floats a few times and the TV media are generous with their Sarah clips so the lie sinks in a few more times.

Sarah is a true Republican. Ready to stretch the truth in their Ends Justify the Means ethical wonderland.

[dancingme]

14. but THIS TIME the black vote and the youth vote will materialize

and that will negate the stupid conservative white people vote. I believe that THIS TIME the lies will not win!

[justiceischeap]

16. It's just sad that the lies seem to negate the truth. (eom)

[Jade Fox]

17. There's a down side to that mythology......

DUer Berni Macoy posted last night that by selling Palin so intensely, the GOP won't be able to get her out of the spotlight. That may become a problem, as the media unveils the scandals that surround her. She's also still coasting on her 15 minutes of fame. She better cough up something new, or she will be a letdown to her current fans.

Personally, I think Palin will do lousy in her much-ballyhooed interview. You can't teach someone international politics in two weeks, and I bet she'll come off as painfully rehearsed.

[sampsonblk]

19. That's the big question.

That's why letting it pass unchallenged for a week was the wrong answer.

[TheKentuckian]

20. I expect her to deliver her talking points

and come off well enough to pass a bar set 2-3 feet below ground.

Hell, I'm disgusted anyone cares. After saying she hasn't thought about Iraq, going into the Witness Protection Program to avoid any questions, the campaign OPENLY admitting she was going to be coached up, and being a non-stop stream of lies, HOW IS SHE A RELEVANT FIGURE???

I also NEVER want to see her give that tired speech again...NEVER.