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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:26 PM
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Is There Any Recent Empirical Studies That Support McCain's Big Lie Strategy?
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 04:28 PM by Median Democrat
We have all heard about the Nazi's infamous invocation of the big lie as a means of spreading propaganda. My question is whether there has ever been any empiracal studies regarding the effectiveness of using the "Big Lie" to as a campaign tool, and is there any clear response to a Big Lie strategy of saying and repeating a Big Lie as truth.

I would think that a Big Lie strategy might fail where you have a healthy and robust media to respond to the spread of a Big Lie. However, where you have a media that is largely docile if not complicit in the spread of a Big Lie, is there any downside to such a strategy. Even with the assistance of a complicit media, can a Big Lie strategy succeed in an era where the internet provides and uncontrolled medium for exposing such lies?

In many ways, this election is facinating in re-examining the use of age old propaganda techniques and whether the American people can be similarly duped to their German breatheren over fifty years ago. If successful, a McCain win could herald a new age of political dialogue where media no longer serves as the fourth branch of government, but rather as a water boy for Republican machine.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:32 PM
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1. The Bush administration?
See Iraq/WMD/911.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:34 PM
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2. Touche'
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 04:34 PM by Median Democrat
:touche:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:36 PM
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3. A lot of repubs were convinced Kerry shot himself in the butt.
So yea... with the right audience, I think it works pretty well.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:36 PM
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4. this article is empirical in the sense of the history it delineates, and how modern PR
has been so successfully implemented by the forces whose goals are inimical to a healthy democracy

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/bender2.html



Karl Rove & the Spectre of Freud’s Nephew
by Stephen Bender

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country… We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized… "

So opens Propaganda (1928), one of several strikingly frank analyses of western social psychology written by Edward Bernays. This nephew of Sigmund Freud founded the public relations industry in the United States.

Mr. Bernays lived a fascinating life. He first got involved in high stakes politics when he "warmed up" the dour Calvin Coolidge by arranging the first presidential celebrity photo op in 1928. For the private sector, Bernays engineered a most notorious publicity stunt for the American Tobacco Company, by single-handedly neutralizing the taboo against women smoking in public. He organized a "Torches of Freedom" march down Broadway by ten smoking debutantes during the 1929 Easter Parade. With the help of feminists – some of whom understood the "right to smoke" as libratory – Bernays expertly publicized this spectacle, thus setting in motion the expected stir on op-ed pages across the land.

For Bernays, truth in public affairs did not exist per se. Rather, truth was the product of the "public relations counsel" forging prevailing "public opinion." It should be said that he readily recognized the ethical implications of his work, as witnessed in his later anti-smoking advocacy, after the dangers of cigarettes became known in the late-1950s. He could also be, in his own curious way, a humanitarian – as reflected in his work promoting the NAACP and anti-syphilis public education.

For Bernays, however, the necessity of controlling the public mind was a crucially important matter confronting the better element, a group in which he clearly included himself. In his first work, the hugely influential Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923), Bernays noted that the establishment of public education and the gradual extension of the right to vote caused consternation among western elites. The use of public relations techniques, then, was a way for the minority to "so mold the mind of the masses that they will throw their newly gained strength in the desired direction." >>>>>>>>>>>>>..

plenty more
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:47 PM
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5. There is a science of Political Persuasion. Smear and Lies work if percieved from Trusted party
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:49 PM
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6. The Authoritarians
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 05:04 PM by TrogL
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:00 PM
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7. Where's your sig?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:05 PM
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8. Guess we lost them going to defcon 2
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:06 PM
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9. Isn't it more like the multi-lie strategy?
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:33 PM
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10. Maybe Its A Saturation Lie Strategy - Lie So Much That ...
You are taken off message pointing out basic facts like water is wet, the earth is round, and Sarah Palin supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it, and the pig in a lipstick comment was made in specific reference to McCain's policies.
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