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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:26 PM
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Kerry Spreads His Populist Message
Belittling recent signs of economic growth as a "Bush-league recovery" and emphasizing a populist message, Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts on Monday offered several proposals to combat the transfer abroad of information technology jobs.

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Repeatedly, Kerry argued that the economy was not working for average families, despite recent gains in the stock market and brisk growth in the gross national product. Kerry insisted that the overall growth numbers were not translating into wage increases for most workers.

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Kerry mostly reaffirmed his existing proposals to stimulate the economy and expand access to health care, while controlling health-care costs and eliminating tax incentives for companies that move jobs overseas.

The new initiatives he offered Monday targeted the trend of companies to shift information technology jobs abroad — particularly those involving call centers that handle sales or technical questions from consumers. Kerry said companies should be required to inform consumers if their calls are being handled by technicians in foreign countries, rather than in the United States.

"A quarter of a million call center jobs have now been sent overseas in the past three years," he said. "I'm announcing that if you are doing business over the phone, people are going to have the right to know whether the companies … are using American labor or sending the calls — and jobs — overseas."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-kerry6jan06,1,823622.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:36 PM
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1. That's one that few in the public are even aware of.
Keep it up, JK....until you're finally heard by the American people.
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:11 PM
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26. Grfeat but late.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:37 PM
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2. My call to Earthlink answered by man in Manila who grew up in Singapore.
Too many corporations care only about the bottom line. We need someone like John Kerry to stand up for worker's rights in this country.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:21 PM
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3. Put spotlight on "call centers" and their U.S. employers. Good move.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:38 PM
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4. Talk is cheap. What actions has he taken in past to show he is a populist?
Dean is also talking like a populist, but if you look at his record, he is a conservative.

Show me some things from Kerry's past to show his populist leanings.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:19 PM
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5. Uhh... Kerry's whole g*damned career?
starting with Vietnam Veterans Against the War?
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:54 PM
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13. But how is he on PROGRESSIVE TAXATION--that's the main populist issue
?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:56 PM
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16. Look no further than his position on the Bush tax cuts
keep 'em at the low end and restore the higher taxes for the upper side.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:30 PM
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29. OK, but that is not enough. He needs to go further. But I could consider
....supporting him if Kucinich cannot make a run at Dean.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:56 PM
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31. That's why I support both of them, cryofan.
Kerry and Kucinich are the two most progressive Dems with real progressive plans ON THE TABLE. Both of them have 30+ years fighting the status quo. They may have different styles, but they are very much alike in their values.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:57 PM
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17. he is for it
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 05:11 PM by JI7
he has been the one to go after dean the most for his stand on taxes which is not progressive. kerry says the problem is not that the middle class isn't paying taxes but that the most wealthy aren't paying their fair share. that's why he doesn't want to get rid of any benefits the middle class recieved. but get the most wealthy such as large corporations to pay what they OWE.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:08 PM
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19. He's BEST on taxation
He supports all the middle class tax cuts. He proposed a payroll holiday tax for low income Americans. He and McCain have been trying to get Congress to enact specific legislation cutting very specific corporate welfare give-aways. The little bit Howard was able to dig up and distort was about Kerry wanting to stop corporate ag give-aways. He's been on the Small Business Committee and introduced alot of the tax savings they've already gotten. It's unfathomable to me that people would choose not to support Kerry without having done a speck of research. Punishing him for voting for the war was more important than recognizing he's the best progessive candidate who has run for President since the 60's, maybe since FDR.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:39 PM
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6. Public financing from the time he took office in 85.
Advocated for gays to serve openly in the military.

Drafted Hate Crimes bill.

Drafted CHIPS bill with Kennedy to extend healthcare to children in every state.

Advocated for returning voting rights to felons who served their time.

Fully funding and extending veteran's benefits.

Drafted Clinton's 100,000 cops in community programs.

Worked on Kyoto Protocol for 10 years.

Wrote legislation that favored small businesses over corporations.

Pushed environmental laws over corporate objections.

Has a lifetime voting rating CLOSEST to Wellstone of all the candidates.

And while he did that he was also investigating and exposing MORE government corruption than ANY lawmaker in modern history. BCCI, IranContra and CIA drugrunning, and in 1997 wrote the book on international funding of terror, The New War.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:54 PM
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12. About the same time he was shopping for offshore tax shelters
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:16 PM
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21. That's untrue and you know it.
When Kerry discovered the problems he corrected it and then supported legislation REGULATING an area that needed regulation. That's called ETHICAL.

YOU are supporting the biggest corporatist in the race according to the way he governed in Vermont.

Funny that yoiu'd point fingers at the candidate who one of the LEAST corporatist in your quest to smear.
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:39 PM
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7. Kerry is a populist?
That's news to me.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:45 PM
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8. Please note
this is not a case of Kerry saying: "I am a populist"

Kerry talked about his economic proposals and his ideas to combat the transfer abroad of information technology jobs. The LA Times chose to call this a 'populist message'. I guess because it would help people, not corporations.



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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:56 PM
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14. But what has he done about...
"blue-collar" and manufacturing jobs?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:57 PM
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18. I think he sent them to Mexico and China
If I am wrong about Kerry supporting NAFTA, GATT, and all the rest of the FTAs, I'll gladly apologize for bringing it up.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:34 PM
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24. He's a free trader who also fights for fairer trade.
Also....He didn't work on Kyoto Protocol for 10 years to make the corporations happy. He did that for the global environment.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:23 PM
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27. "free trader"
enough said. Next!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:40 PM
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28. 3rd world countries MUST have trade
The exact same people who cry about the terrible conditions in 3rd world countries ignore the fact that the only thing that will help their economies is trade. They have a right to work and expand as much as we do. What we need to do is include environmental and labor regulations in trade bills the way it was done with the Jordan trade bill. The last time we tried to restrict trade was Hoover and it helped throw us into the depression. We don't live in a black/white, either/or world.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:35 PM
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30. Kyoto Protocol...enough said...next.
There are better ways to do these things, WCTV. I trust Kerry's instinct for fairness and his concern for the environment.
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:56 PM
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15. But what has he done about...
"blue-collar" and manufacturing jobs?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:29 PM
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22. You can sure do alot more as President than as a Senator.
JOHN KERRY’S PLAN TO REVIVE THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR

(1) TAX BREAKS TO ENCOURAGE MANUFACTURERS TO STAY IN THE U.S. AND TO CREATE NEW JOBS.
The Bush Administration has done nothing to end incentives that encourage manufacturers to move their jobs overseas. John Kerry believes that we should not only get rid of these incentives, but that we should give new tax breaks to companies that stay in the U.S. and create new jobs. He would:

• Stop Incentives to Move American Jobs Abroad. John Kerry will save jobs by ending the unpatriotic practice of U.S. corporations moving jobs offshore (known as inversions) to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. He also believes that these inverters should not get government contracts or any other perks or incentives from the government.

• Give Tax Breaks to Manufacturers in America. John Kerry supports efforts to promote manufacturing and provide incentives to keep manufacturing in the U.S. That’s why he supports the Crane-Rangel-Hollings legislation, which provides a corporate rate reduction to manufacturers who produce goods in the U.S.

• A New Manufacturing Jobs Credit. John Kerry has proposed a new jobs tax credit to encourage manufacturing companies to stay and expand in America. When a manufacturing company creates jobs above their 12 month employment average, the payroll taxes of the new employees will be refunded for two years.


(2) STRONG ENFORCEABLE TRADE THAT WORKS FOR AMERICA. The Bush Administration has not cracked down on countries that are avoiding trade laws or manipulating currency. President Bush has supported cutting funds for trade enforcement, despite the fact that we need more enforcement of trade laws to stop the manufacturing job drain. Some Democrats pretend that we can close our doors to the global economy. John Kerry believes we need strong leadership to assure that the global economy works for America.

• Assure Trading Partners Play by the Rules. Some nations have consistently violated agreements by the World Trade Organization. They have taken unfair actions to block U.S auto companies from selling in their markets. Many products from China are counterfeit or don’t meet industry standards. While this Administration has not used the remedies available under the World Trade Organization to crack down on these violations and help U.S industries, John Kerry would.

• Stop Countries from Manipulating Currency. China, Japan and other nations have purposely kept their currency undervalued relative to the U.S. dollar to promote exports in the United States and undermine U.S. products abroad. John Kerry believes we must use the full force of the World Trade Organization to take on countries that are manipulating their currency to undermine U.S. exports.

• Enforce and Strengthen Intellectual Property Protections. In the 21st economy, the U.S. relies more heavily on international partnerships and joint ventures. Intellectual property protections are essential in this environment so that companies can share their technology without losing control of it.

• Break Down Barriers in Key Export Markets.This Administration has done little to open key export markets in places like Japan and Korea. Some countries use non-tariff barriers, such as making it difficult to access finance or have obscure investment requirements, to undermine U.S. exports. For example, auto exports to Japan are still essentially blocked by complicated rules. John Kerry would use all the available tools, including Section 301 of the 1974 Trade Act, WTO remedies, and diplomatic measures to open these markets.

• Review Existing Trade Agreements. John Kerry will also order an immediate 120 day review of all existing trade agreements to ensure that our trade partners are living up to their labor and environment obligations and that trade agreements are enforceable and are balanced for America’s workers. He will consider necessary steps if they are not. And John Kerry will not sign any new trade agreements until the review is complete and its recommendations put in place. He believes all new trade agreements must have strong labor and environmental standards.

(3) ASSURE A STRONG MANUFACTURING SECTOR FOR THE FUTURE. John Kerry believes we must keep manufacturing strong, as it is one of our most productive sectors and it is critical to the U.S. economy. In fact, every $1.00 in final demand for manufacturing products creates $2.43 in output, including demand for intermediate goods and services in other sectors.

• Tax Incentives and Subsidies to Develop Energy Efficient Products: Kerry will create hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs by investing in the new energy opportunities of the future. Kerry has a plan to provide tax credits and subsidies to manufacturers to develop the next generation of automobiles and new energy efficient appliances for homes and businesses.

• Double the Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP). We know that the MEP helps make American manufacturers competitive. Yet this Administration has proposed to cut it nearly 90 percent. John Kerry believes we should invest in things that work, and has proposed to double funding for the MEP. John Kerry would also create Manufacturing Development Centers to help improve manufacturing. Finally, he would make it easier for small manufacturers to get loans and encourage investment by getting rid of capital gains tax for equity investments in small businesses.


• Assure Better Training and Retraining Programs for Manufacturing Workers. To keep the manufacturing sector healthy and strong, America needs a workforce with cutting edge skills, training, and knowledge. Kerry would: (1) in order to assure that are sufficient numbers of highly skilled workers, Kerry supports providing assistance for workers in declining industries to upgrade or develop necessary skills, and providing community-based grants to help train or retrain workers; (2) assure adequate Trade Adjustment Assistance to help workers transition; (3) encourage students studying engineering, computers, and other high-tech fields to work in the manufacturing sector by repaying a portion of student loans if they do; and (4) encourage better math and science instruction in our schools to assure more students have the skills to help the manufacturing sector grow.

(4) RELIEF FOR MANUFACTURERS THAT PROVIDE QUALITY HEALTH CARE AND RETIREMENT. Simply having employers absorb rising health care costs puts U.S. manufacturers at an impossible competitive disadvantage with overseas producers. General Motors estimated that as much as $1200 of each car sold goes towards health care costs and often labor negotiations are consumed by just maintaining health care coverage. John Kerry’s health care plan takes on the cost of health care by:

• Supporting a Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit That Rewards Retiree Coverage. Prescription drugs coverage consumes about 40% to 60% of the cost of retiree coverage. But under the drug benefit plan before Congress, employer coverage would not count towards the expenditures needed to reach the catastrophic cap. CBO has estimated that will cause about one-third of beneficiaries who would otherwise have coverage to lose it. John Kerry believes we need a quality affordable prescription drug benefit to relieve employers and employees from high drug costs by counting retiree coverage toward any cost-sharing.

• Controlling the Cost of Health Care - Saving Workers Up to $1,000 on Health Care. John Kerry believes that we need to stop the spiraling cost of health care to assure our employers can stay competitive in the global economy and so our families can afford health care. Four-tenths of one percent of claims accounted for nearly 20 percent of expenses private insurers. John Kerry has proposed a new 'premium rebate' pool that will give companies and insurers that guarantee a pass-through of the savings to their workers through reduced premiums, a reimbursement for 75 percent of catastrophic costs above $50,000. This would save up to $1000 for a family premium.

• Cutting Greed to Bring Down Rx Prices. Pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) process hundreds of millions of pharmaceutical claims per year, giving them a great deal of leverage in the market. They often get financial rebates or other savings they do not pass on to consumers. John Kerry’s plan would require transparency rules for PBMs that do business with the Federal government to clearly show what savings they are receiving from the industry and from bulk purchasing.

• Don’t Penalize Manufacturers With Pension Laws. Many manufacturers provide their employees with defined benefit pension plans – which assures workers dependable predictable income at retirement. However, under current law, manufacturers are required to set aside unrealistically high reserves to meet future obligations to their workers. These are resources that manufacturers could use to invest in new technologies, new plants, and hiring or advanced training for workers. John Kerry supports basing the law on a realistic long-term rate.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2003_1021.html


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:48 PM
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9. He NEVER accepted corporate pac money in any of his races.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:51 PM
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10. No PAC money is a huge example of Kerry's populism
Surprised you didn't mention this in your list above but maybe that was intentional? :) (Nothing like flagging)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:11 PM
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20. Most progressive President since FDR
That's what we're throwing away when we throw away John Kerry. And he can actually get elected. The things people say sometimes are just unbelievable to me.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:53 PM
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11. Kerry's spreading SOMETHING, and it aint a populist message
More like manure.

John Kerry is a from-way-back corporatist tax shelter seeking good ol boy, who likes to pretend he is a vanguard of the common people. It washes with some, but as his polling indicates, not everyone is so dumb anymore.

I think Teresa needs to step up and tell her husband it's time to break down the gazebo - that party just isn't getting off the ground.


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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:33 PM
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23. All you are spreading are smears and invective.
I agree with you about one thing, SOMEONE is stinking up the place with a bunch of crap.

Do you agree or disagree with Kerry's proposals?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 05:39 PM
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25. Why are you pretending you have something that you don't from 1983?
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 05:43 PM by blm
When Kerry found out the advice he got from a financial manager wasn't as ethical as he liked, he took a loss to get out of it. He also later supported legislation to regulate those areas that had been unregulated before then and cause that flow of money offshore.

He did the right thing and learned about corporate tax shelters and has been fighting to close those loopholes ever since. He also learned about how money is laundered and was able to uncover BCCI thanks to his doggedness on banking fraud and tax evasion schemes.

Your smear to distract from Dean's longtime corporatism just proves how ethical Kerry really is.

Sorry you support a corporatist, but pretending Kerry is one doesn't change Dean's record as governor.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:08 PM
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32. Admit your boy is a corporatist tax shelter seeker
Which I proved he was. Come on, confession is good for the soul.

John Kerry is a dyed in the wool corporate elitist, who gold-dug two, TWO rich wives. Between them, he got nervous with his money (not having a sugar mamma at the time) and frantically sought out an offshore tax shelter. He got advice that it might blowback on his future political aspirations and he closed that one down - but it doesn't eliminate the fact that he sought one to begin with.

That is the behavior of corporatists. Republican style corporatists.

If that's upsetting to you, I understand. But wouldn't you rather know the truth about John Kerry now, rather than learning it if by some galactic stretch he got a grab at supreme executive power?

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:19 PM
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33. All you proved is that you are not willing to back up your false charges.
Your smears are disgusting, duplicitous, disingenuous, and dreadfully poorly written as well.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:27 PM
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35. Kerry ethically undid what a finance mgr. advised. Exactly what he should
have done. 1983. Kerry then helped push regulations onto those areas that were unregulated.

Sorry Dean's lifelong corporatism is so upsetting to you that you smear others to release your pent up outrage.

Gee, I wouldn't know what to do if I had to hold all that outrage I have for corporatists like Dean who favored big business over the citizens throughout his governorship. That must really suck.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:17 PM
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34. INFORMATIVE* ORIGINAL MESSAGE*KICK
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