Sick and tired of DUers complaining about Obama NOT fight back! HE IS!!!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

I'm sick and tired of hearing that Obama is not fighting back. HE IS!! The media is NOT showing his town halls and speeches. He is kicking ass during these town halls and other appearances. Only C-SPAN is showing them. Biden is out there giving them hell as well.

The Powers that Be in the media are giving us--even in the so-called 'liberal press'--the *false* impression that he's not fighting back. Stop believing this shit and get out and do your part!!!

Canvass. Phonebank. Register new voters. Donate more. Talk to friends and family who live in swing states.

DO YOUR PART AND STOP BITCHING ABOUT WHAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS AND IS NOT DOING!!!

[wicket]

1. Thank-you!!!!

Well said. :kick:

[liberalmuse]

2. Absolutely, and the MSM is ominously silent.

Both Obama and Biden are fighting back, but the MSM will not show this. It is clear who the corporate media prefers to have in power. I'm going to continue to donate and volunteer, and to turn off the right wing spin, and go where we can get coverage (Olbermann, Maddow, Maher, The Daily Show and The Colbert Report).

[butterfly77]

33. He had a lot of good soundbites this past week but,,

the media cuts them off midstream and just like this morning they go get a assholes like Harold Washington to criticize him when he doesn't know what in the hell he is talking about. Ford sat on morning joe this morning making excuses for the republicons and saying " with all due respect to ms.palin" and went on and on about what Obama needs to do when this ass couldn't win his own election.

Then to top it off Pat Buchanan made him shut his damn mouth when they were speaking about the war and he said something relating to Ford being a warmonger because he voted for the war too..Ford sat their looking like a fool..The media go gets weak ass pundits like Ford and act like he is working on the obama campaign as a strategist.

[rockymountaindem]

3. Well if it's not in the media then it may as well not be happening

Where are the vicious attack ads? If the media won't pay attention, we should use the large advantage we have in fundraising to put some devastating attacks out there ourselves.

[budkin]

4. OBAMA NEEDS GOOD SOUND BITES!

Wake up people... it's the only thing that average people in this country hear and can process. He's going on and on in this super calm voice talking talking talking but he needs to call the Repukes out on what they are doing... call them LIARS for fuck's sake. Don't pull a John Kerry Obama. For the love of God don't blow this!

[sandnsea]

7. You think he suddenly doesn't have good sound bites?

After having great sound bites and speeches for years - he suddenly doesn't have them anymore??

It's the media fuckwit. Wake Up.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

17. See, this is what I'm talking about!

Obama *did* use the word LIAR. He has been calling them liars. In fact today he told reporters that McSame's latest attack ad was chock full of lies. He has been using the word LIE, but again, the media is NOT reporting it. We have to get our news elsewhere.

You're right about one thing: in Obama's ads, he needs to use actual sound bites from John McCain himself. He did that for "The Same" ad, but he needs to do the same for ALL the ads. There is a long list of John McCain's flip-flops straight from his mouth. Glen Greenwald has done a fantastic job at putting together this montage of McSame flip-flops. Why not use some of this footage in Obama ads?

Apart from that, looks like he's coming out swinging. And who's to say that he won't do the things that we are talking about. Surprisingly it's still early and they could be saving the coup de tat for later.

[sandnsea]

5. Same thing happened to Kerry

We need to be the media. Also - please post the good quotes because you'd be surprised how many "political junkies" won't turn on CSpan because it's too cerebral.

[Johonny]

9. I agree

Kerry did fight back, but the MSM ignored him. Dems get brief air time then the MSM spends hours on pointless right wing talking points.

[PuppyBismark]

6. I am canvassing and the Obama Campaign Must Start Fighting Back

Yesterday I canvassed a Columbus, OH suburb. Discussions with independents just brought home the need for the Obama Campaign to get off their no-negative trend. These people are watching for him to get a backbone and have not seen it. If the campaign does not "take off the gloves" we are sunk. And these people have IQ's above a 100. They are independent and are concerned that BO does not have the back bone to face the world. This is based in part by the way they see this campaign not attacking McBush or Palin.

I would love it if we did not have to do this, but we do. Time is running out. The debates are not going to be enough.

Sunday showed me we need CHANGE in how we are campaigning.

[bridgit]

13. republicans are playing to win it, Obama is going to have to break a sweat...

[treestar]

22. My condolences. I hate that kind of thinking

It sort of reverses vice into a virtue. Because someone is not nasty they are not tough. That makes a virtue of being nasty.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. You should be talking to those Independents and explaining to them that

Obama IS fighting back but the media is preoccupied with The Puppet and won't show Obama/Biden town halls. This is so frustrating to me.

Tell them to watch for the debates as well. I still think that Obama and Biden are going to bury McSame and The Puppet!

[PuppyBismark]

30. That is exactly what I was telling them, but ..........

My point was that this is where many independents are. If you can guarantee me that enough Obama volunteers will show up at each and every independent door then I will not be worried. Not going to happen!

So, then there is work to be done on the message going out to the country and there is room for improvement.

High minded principles are great, but this is a war and we cannot lose it. We need to use all the weapons available. When we make clear the lies McBush is generating, the solution needs to be presented too.

The independent voters seem agree with our issues for the most part, but they also need to see that we are strong.

It does not help that the congress keeps caving into the GOP. We understand the the math in the Senate, but now is the time to make a stand. For example, now is the time to force the GOP to vote on children's health care.

ENOUGH! It was said at the convention, but since then, what?

[TuxedoKat]

29. Please send an email to the Obama Campaign re same.

I just did. If the media is not showing his responses Barack needs to spend more money on ads or something.

[asjr]

8. I don't know if telling all of you this

will help, but just a few minutes ago I looked out the back door and saw several white-tail deer grazing in the back yard. The acorns and hickory nuts are starting to fall and they are feasting on what little is on the ground right now. And they are beautiful! And over in the next field are several beautiful quarter horses grazing. The sky is beautiful. A nice breeze is blowing. The cat and dog are lying down in the grass together sleeping. And all of a sudden Satchmo was singing What a Wonderful World in my head. I now have my optimism back and this time I will not let go of it.

[azmouse]

16. That's beautiful!

Wish I could see that.

[asjr]

27. It really helped me. I had forgotten

to look at the beauty surrounding me and obviously I missed that.

[chicagoexpat]

10. Right, instead of whining about things you can't change...

get down to your local campaign office and start registering voters, stuffing envelopes, calling people.

That is, IF you actually want to affect the election.

[gravity]

11. They need to do some advertising

get the media's attention and change the discourse of the race

[treestar]

20. didn't the Obama campaign have more $$ than McChimp's?

In which case, it wuold be sensible to hold all the ads till towards the end. That swing vote is so dumb that they won't remember who to vote for! They say they are voting McChimp today when polled. But the slightest wind could get them to change their minds. So douse them with ads right near the election.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. That's what I'm thinking is happening. Folks, 2 months is a lifetime in the world of politics

I'm thinking Obama is holding back until we get closer into the election. While he is fighting back now and the media refuses to show him, I really think that he's saving a coup de tat until the last few weeks, or at least until the debates.

[Overseas]

12. Another part of the RNC bag of tricks -- Demoralize Dems by lack of coverage

They do the one line coverage -- "Obama had a town hall in Fairfield today." Not showing his specific plans or comment clips. McSame has an event and here's a little clip of McZombie saying we need alternative energy. Or Obama wants to raise your taxes.

You are right and I succumb to that as well. Even after all these years. It appears as though Obama hasn't been hitting back and yet, regionally, in his meetings with voters, he speaks very strongly against the Republican administration. And his campaign runs its ads in a strategic, localized manner as well. That may be one of the few ways a campaign can cut through the pro-Republican propaganda the consolidated corporate media run.

Person to person, on the ground, talking locally and online. Maybe that's how we can get past the very pro-Republican media.

[rvablue]

14. This is my theory...

Although I probably shouldn't post it here, in fear that Repub. trolls will read it!

I think Obama and Biden are keeping calm, lowering expectations a bit and laughing off the lies McCain and Palin are telling because they are laying in wait for the debates.

One temper eruption from McCain and one major gaffe by Palin during the debates and this thing is a done deal.

It's a tiny bit of a gamble, because it could go too far, especially with the cable brainwashing, but this is how I believe they are going about it and I think it's brilliant.

[azmouse]

15. And this SHOULD be the message that is all over DU!

If so many here thought they could influence the media by having a million posts about McCain's VP choice, why don't they get that they could ALSO influence the media by posting non-stop about Obama's speeches and how he is kicking ass.

Talk about Obama and Biden til it helps and stop the gawd damn constant whining!!!


GObama!! GoBiden!!

[treestar]

24. good point, and now they are on you tube and can be spread

The right wing media need not have so much control.

[BuyingThyme]

18. There's no reason he should have to fight back.

He should be controlling the fight. The truth is on his side.

People are waiting for him to lead, but he's refusing to do so.

The turning point was when he voted for the anti-FISA bill. It was a golden opportunity to show leadership. He disappointed everybody.

Then he staged a low-information convention which left McCain to set the tone for the race.

If Obama doesn't step up and show leadership now, he will only look desperate in the end.

[qwlauren35]

19. REMINDER - ***WE*** are the Campaign Strategy!!!

Obama has said over and over that it is up to ***US*** to win the election. The way to combat the smears is by ***US*** taking them on and having the conversations with people that help them see past Rovian smears.

What if he did run the ads? What if he did get into the media? Are you really believing that it wouldn't be spun back on him as "angry black man"????

My favorite is Obama's town hall message: "THEY must think YOU'RE STUPID". Risky. Then, the media spins it into: "Obama says YOU'RE STUPID"... Sound bites can back fire.

[Dawgs]

21. "The media is NOT showing his town halls and speeches"

Ah, the Kerry "fighting back" strategy.

Amazing how all of these posts look so similar to the ones we saw in 2004. Haven't we learned our lesson yet?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

26. Explain, please. Is it not true?

[loyalsister]

23. There is a lot of media advocacy

in the anti McCain\Palin direction.
Why not some massive pro Obama\Biden media advocacy?

As a matter of fact, every time he has come to my state it has been covered by local news stations and local papers with reasonable fairness. The same goes for McCain.

People act like 24 hour news is the only news there is. Do a thorough inventory. Most of my family will not see most of this coverage because they do not get cable and not not such political junkies that they will look it up.

I think we need to break with some assumptions here. It would really provide a different perspective on how polls and elections are viewed .

[bdamomma]

31. right on, both Obama and Biden are out there educating the

masses.

[SeaLyons]

32. I think Obama is fighting back,

but I have heard him laugh about their lies, and he needs to take them very seriously, and be very stern when relating the lies and debunking them. Just mho.