There has never been a bigger intellectual mismatch for the Presidency/VP

[Zenmaster]

Seriously consider...

Biden, 3 undergraduate degrees and Law School degree.
Obama, President of Harvard Law Review.

vs.

McCain, bottom 1% of his class, undergraduate only
Palin, journalism degree from the University of Idaho


Its even sadder if you consider spouses, (Michelle Obama, Harvard grad, Jill Biden PHD vs. Todd Palin & Cindy McCain).

Yes, I know this is the type of thing that the campaigns and surrogates shouldn't be bringing up, as it reinforces the "Elite" shit, but you know I actually like my government leaders to be at least as smart and educated as myself. Call me crazy.

The whole celebration of ignorance thing that half of this country has going on is seriously sickening & disturbing.

[Debau2005]

1. I said the same thing

when fundie family members were loving Bush because they could have a beer with him, he was "just like them." I want someone better educated, and more knowledgeable about world affairs then I, not the guy I can have a beer with.

[Sensitivity]

2. Cindy has a MA fro USC. Odd one out.

[Capn Sunshine]

16. IN What?

Beer distribution ?

[orwell]

3. Rent the movie...

...Idiocracy. That will tell you where this is all headed.

[livetohike]

4. I want someone smarter than me for President/VP. I can't

believe the media isn't hyping this education gap.

We've had a C student for eight years. We desperately need someone with the knowledge and thought processes to get this country on the right track.

[noel711]

5. Now stop yer talkin' like an elitist...

You know that in American ANYONE can be president!

(grin)

[smoogatz]

6. I don't know: how about Adlai Stevenson and Eisenhower?

And we all know how that one went. Twice. Or Gore and Bush, ferchrissake. Or anybody and Bush. About half the country don't care if the president is a moron or not: it's about tribal identity, and wanting to teach the "other side" a lesson.

[Zenmaster]

13. At least Bush had Cheney on the ticket. An asshole, but not an idiot.

At least not on the level of the McCain/Palin ticket.

To be honest, I believe that Bush is likely more intellegent than McCain.

[smoogatz]

15. I disagree. Cheney is a colossal idiot, of the most dangerous kind.

He's a rabid ideologue who thinks he's smarter than the rest of us, but is in fact both dishonest and wrong about everything. Cheney is a complete moron, as far as I can tell.

[izquierdista]

14. Eisenhower was an Einstein

In comparison to Dubya, Alzheimer Gonzalez, McCain, or Palin.

But how to teach the stupid half of the populace to distinguish smart people who will help them from smart people who will use them (Rove, Gramm, Cheney, etc.)?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

7. That's a credential mismatch. The intellectual mismatch is real, but transcripts don't prove it

Credentials are a tool for when you have no other information. My appraisal of Obama's intellect, for instance, is based entirely on hearing and reading his words, not on his academic record.

Conflating credentials and ability is, in fact, elitist.

Joe Biden's academic record is nothing spectacular, but he's a very, very bright guy.

The Chimperor went to better schools than Biden.

[NC_Nurse]

8. I'm with you, but we're in the minority.

Intelligent people are not popular with the rest of our society - don't ask me why.

[mod mom]

9. you forgot that Palin's undergraduate degree included 6 colleges in 6 years.

doesn't that count for something? :sarcasm:

on edit 6 colleges not 6:

Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin seems to have switched colleges at least six times in six years, including two stints at the University of Idaho before graduating from there in 1987.

By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS
Associated Press Writer
SPOKANE, Wash. —
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin seems to have switched colleges at least six times in six years, including two stints at the University of Idaho before graduating from there in 1987.

Federal privacy laws prohibit the schools from disclosing her grades, and none of the schools contacted by The Associated Press could say why she transferred. There was no indication any were contacted as part of the background investigation of Palin by presidential candidate John McCain's campaign.

"Our office was not contacted by anyone," said Tania Thompson, spokeswoman for the University of Idaho in Moscow.

Palin, the governor of Alaska, was born in Idaho. Her family moved when she was only a few months old to Alaska, where she was raised.

According to a biography - "Sarah" by Kaylene Johnson - Palin and three friends went to the University of Hawaii at Hilo after graduation from high school in Alaska in 1982. But they left after a few weeks because of the constant rain there, the book said.

-snip

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008158681_apcvnpalineducation.html

[Qutzupalotl]

10. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room"

then I'm a fucking elitist!

[HereSince1628]

11. I haven't seen Palin spit for emphasis. I have no reason to believe she does

of course I haven't known of her for very long.

Ever notice how important anti-intellectualism is to validating being uneducated as well as to the maintenance of authoritarian rule? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, the GOP? It's human nature, not chance, that puts Cheney and Palin in the same party. Authoritarianism appeals to both the proletariat and the ruling elite.

[Mike Daniels]

12. The RW "anti-elitist" morons realize that the founding fathers were "the elite" don't they?

Lawyers, merchants, doctors, etc.

They were highly educated, cultured and sophisticated. They had high level schooling and they were educated above and beyond the normal "joe" in the street.

They were not ordinary and it was through them that we managed to survive our early days as a nation.

Yet, if the were alive today the Palins and Limbaughs would dismiss them at being "elitist" and "snobs" because they aren't "plain folk".

It's amazing what's happened over the years.

[Median Democrat]

17. Not Good - See Warning Signs of Facism

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