I can't stand it.

[Plaid Adder]

My partner really wants to watch Palin's speech, so I tried. I did try. I sat through the governor of Hawaii's embarrassing attempts to make lemonade out of the lemon of Palin's lack of career. Guiliani we got through via generous use of the mute button. But once Palin started in on the "small town" stuff, I just had to leave.

I can't stand another three months of suspense as I wait to find out just how stupid people can be. Just how many Americans there are who still eat this folksy homespun small town girl crap up and start feeling like all you need to steer America through a century that is already eating us alive is the plain-spoken Christian wisdom of your small town. For Christ's sake, hasn't the past 8 years taught us that a modest intelligence unsullied by experience or curiosity but well-inspired by right-wing Christian arrogance is the last fucking thing you want squatting in the White House when the shit hits the fan?

AUGH!!!

Yes, because that's what we need, another person near the levers of power who professes to believe that everything you need to know about governing the most dangerous nation in the world is to be found in the hearts of 9000 of your neighbors. No, we don't need more "small town" thinking in the White House, it's the last fucking thing we need. But that doesn't matter; all that matter is how many other people in this country swell with pride as they listen to this tripe thinking, yes, a good-hearted small town down home hockey mom with God on her side, how could we do better?

@#$!!!!!!

Yeah, it's a bad speech. Gov. of Hawaii's was bad too. No, she is not an inspiring speaker. Yes, it's ludicrous that all of a sudden the test for whether you're qualified to be President is whether you've ever been a small-town mayor--even though as I recall their candidate doesn't have any "executive experience" either. Yeah, by all the laws of everything this VP pick should be a failure and this convention should sink the ticket.

But then there's that law that says, bad rhetoric works on people who want it to work on them. And really on election day all that matter is how many people still want to feel that glow and pull that stinking lever.

:argh:

Is it over yet?

:argh: :argh: :argh:

The Plaid Adder

[dolo amber]

1. Did you hear?

John McCain was a POW! :o

[Mad_Dem_X]

2. She was absolutely VILE.

Disrespecting Obama at every turn, condescending, smug, nasty.

I hope Biden tears her to shreds in the debate.

[elzenmahn]

13. What her tone will do...

...is only further delineate the gulf of difference between the Dems and the RepubliCANTS. Obama's "high road" approach is serving to make that difference obvious, and considering the reaction to his speech, far more people are connecting to that than this swill.

That being said, don't underestimate your opponent. She demonstrated that she is an attack dog, a take-no-prisoners pol like Bushiebaby, an approach that served her quite well up in AK (perhaps until now.) She understands Machiavellian tactics, and won't be afraid to use them. Don't take her lightly for the next few months.

It should also be said that the Repubs might be gambling on the same strategy that got Bushiebaby into office - lower the expectations. Biden is expected to do well in his debate with Mrs. Palin, but winning the debate against Biden is not the goal for Sarah - all she has to do is "hold her own", and not gaffe. It worked against Gore and against Kerry. Let's see if it works now - hoping that Biden understands this strategy, I think he has simply too much saavy for her.

The RepubliCANTS might be jumping for joy now, but they are running plays from a playbook that might have worked up until the '04 election - fear'n'smear'n'hate. This is '08 - the times are different, the political dynamic is different. I highly doubt it will work this time.

[Labors of Hercules]

31. It had better fucking well NOT work this time.

If it does, I'm going to Afghanistan.

[Ikonoklast]

32. But who has she really ever come up against?

Alaska is, population-wise, a very small pond. Not exactly the big leagues, political-wise.

And she already showed that she can fuck that up, big time.


There are some big, big sharks out there, with nasty sharp teeth.

She'll find out how far the down-home, good 'ol gal bullshit goes, very, very soon.

[drm604]

3. I tried to listen.

I could only hang on for a couple of minutes then I had to change the channel. Otherwise I might have injured either the TV or myself. :banghead:

[krabigirl]

5. I couldn't. My husband had it on, and I told him to change the channel, or the TV would break. hehe

I seriously can't listen to her.

[rhett o rick]

4. There are a lot of Americans that are just plain stupid. They can't help it with our

education system and our media that is strictly right wing propaganda. The big money is working for fascism and I believe they have the momentum. Obama may get elected but he will be fighting the neocon-fascist that have unlimited financial resources.

I predict that we will have to get to the depression state before the gullibles in this nation start to figure it out.

[yardwork]

6. It's on.

That was the worst thing I've ever witnessed. Vile. Hateful. Hatefilled. Full of lies. Making fun of Obama's community service. Pretending that she cares about special needs people. Parading her children for political gain. Her children looked terrified up there.

It made me feel sick. I feel as if I just watched a snuff film.

It was that bad. I'm going to donate to Barack Obama now.

[bedazzled]

35. i think this convention is scarier than any horror film i've ever seen

i know exactly how you feel...

i feel for her children. guess palin considers
them a small sacrifice for power.

[yardwork]

7. It's on.

That was the worst thing I've ever witnessed. Vile. Hateful. Hatefilled. Full of lies. Making fun of Obama's community service. Pretending that she cares about special needs people. Parading her children for political gain. Her children looked terrified up there.

It made me feel sick. I feel as if I just watched a snuff film.

It was that bad. I'm going to donate to Barack Obama now.

[NatBurner]

9. this sums it up perfectly:

"I feel as if I just watched a snuff film."

ditto.

"It was that bad. I'm going to donate to Barack Obama now."

and ditto.

[rucognizant]

11. I watched on CNN & MSNBC, while livebloggin with mudflat.wordpress/ out of Wasilla AK.

They had a radio to listen to , and people all over the world joined in wee small hours with support for us Obama. people!
Her own sister said she was thick skinned..............
THe crowd response was "mob like" but MUCH SMALLER THAN THE DEM CROWD!
ANd they all kept passing the special needs baby!

[Hissyspit]

8. Giuliani was disingenuous and, believe it or not, brought up 9/11.

[drm604]

12. No... Really?

Giuliani brought up 9/11? Who would have guessed he'd do that? :sarcasm:
:puke:

[Hissyspit]

10. dupe

[Ajaye]

14. Good. She just energized the base. OUR BASE

Obama lost some financial support and some enthusiasm over stuff like FISA etc. She has now brought all that support back to us.

We cannot underestimate this woman or this party. The pundits/msm are eating her up, the base LOVES her and if the mushy middle equate "toughness" and "likeability" and the ability to read a scripted speech with conviction with readiness to lead...she will gain much more credibility than she deserves. I think she has a presence we cannot deny. She has polish, she has "grit," she can work a line and work her personal appeal and story. We have to do everything in our power to let our mushy middle/independent friends know how EXTREME her views are and remind them how much of a lightweight she is.

We have to challenge people who are leaning that way, even though they don't like Bush...what change does this ticket represent? What reform? How do they exemplify the ability to "work well with others?" They keep talking about change...what CHANGE!? And what "victory" in Iraq?


Go KO! Just called her Tracy Flick and Delores Umbrage! What do you really think Keith! Gotta love him. Thank God we have him and Rachel. Sometimes when the msm is kissing ass, I turn to KO and RM and think...okay, I'm not completely nuts, they do agree with me!

[Dr.Phool]

15. On a cheerier note.

You actually only have to endure two months to find out how stupid people can be.

[bettyellen]

16. "modest intelligence unsullied by experience or curiosity " - I'm going to memorize that

and repeat it often over the next nine weeks. thank you!

[iamjoy]

17. I Feel Sick Too

Watching Romney, Giuliani and Palin I got this feeling that well, if McSame wins, I won't really have a country. It's how I've felt for the past 8 years, watching this just heightened it. I could go on and on, but there's little point.

Nasty pieces of work.

[recovering democrat]

18. Lies or Operational Security?

I am going to have to find one of those rubber bricks that I had a few years back so I can throw it at the TV when I hear mess like this speech again. Otherwise, I may damage my TV.

I just have to pay attention. She is dangerous. Like her earlier announcement, this mother of a soldier just again compromised operational security by re-stating her son's alleged upcoming deployment date. Of all the things wrong with what she says, this cannot be ignored and is not silly. Military members and families know full well that you do NOT give out such information publicly and it is illegal to do so. Why is she an exception? What is the reason this is ignored along with all her other lies and misleading statements? I keep seeing military vets in the audience cheering for McCain and for her. They know better too. Palin may just be lying or exaggerating to keep using "911" as a political issues as the Republicans keep doing, but for her to be stupid enough to state his supposed deployment date is dangerous for her son and his military brothers.

Okay, rant over. Going to go buy the rubber brick tomorrow. I can't stand it either.

[Skittles]

19. you want I should kick your partner's ass, Plaid Adder?

wanting to watch Palin's speech? I'm itching to kick ass.

[Plaid Adder]

27. No, it's not like that. She wanted to know the enemy.

It's not like she was enjoying it. She's just stronger than I am about some things.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[kath]

20. Good post. A quibble - she's not about "plain-spoken Christian wisdom" - she's tied to the

Dominionist movement, and those are some scary,scary sumbitches. See the thread "Sarah Palin: Dominionist Stalking Horse?" for some good links. We need to know who we're fighting against. It's very serious. These people are actually praying for God to smite McCain so that Palin, one of their own, can hold the reins of power. :scared: :scared:

[Miss Authoritiva]

21. Mixed reviews from me.

The speechwriters gave her a well-crafted speech to deliver that featured some well-pointed barbs and taunts for the RNC audience to respond to. Palin delivered it well, especially considering her lack of inexperience in giving a speech to both a large live audience and a television audience.

That being said, I thought the speech clearly crossed the line into genuine snottiness at times. Not that geniune snottiness is never used in political speeches, but I thought it was inappropriate in the VP acceptance speech. Some of the passages would have been better suited to, say, Giuliani.

I also was surprised that Palin used the since debunked line about saying "no thanks to the bridge to nowhere" -- it has been well established that the earmark for the bridge had been scuttled <b>before</b> Palin was even sworn in as governor.

[Third Doctor]

22. I found out

how dumb sections of the american public were four years ago. I hate the suspense too and knowing that the fundies like this person really makes me apprehensive.

[FrenchieCat]

24. That's what makes her dangerous; she repeats the lies even after

they have been debunked.

In terms of her familiarity with television, she was a television anchor.

[SeattleGirl]

23. You should have heard the stream of cursing coming out of my mouth

after that bile she spewed tonight.

I watched, but I had it on closed captioning, because her voice just grates on me like Bush's and McSame's.

There are not enough words in the world, though, that can adequately describe the absolute disgust I felt after hearing that gawdawful dreck.

[Mz Pip]

25. I had class tonight

Mr Pip lasted 30 seconds into it so I onkly have DU to fill me in. I'm glad Mr Pip turned it off after 30 seconds. I really love my nice new flat screen TV and would hate to see it shattered by one of Mr Pip's shoes.

Fortunately I have the perspective of my 31 year old son who says that most moderates and independents will see this for what it is - ridiculous.

I love your post. You nailed it. This speech must have been like one of those "nostalgic" emails than paints the past as some idyllic reality we shouldd all wish to return to. Small town values. Sounds like a 50s Twilight Zone.

We aren't going back to that. And "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" was a movie, not a documentary.

[Cary]

26. I struggled to listen too and it was my wife, too, who wanted to watch

I had to walk out of the room several times and I still feel like shit. I'm having a hard time getting any work done this morning.

I'm also wondering how rightists succeed. Is it going to make one bit of difference to them whether the president or vice president looks like this or that, or has done that or the other thing? We have a clear difference between the parties, and their party is clearly going to continue doing what it has done over the past 8 years. What goes through peoples' minds when they ignore this obvious fact and focus instead on superficial factors or ideological abstractions?

Does it mean anything at all that 80% want change?

I don't understand this and the stupidity behind it is bothering me.

[tomreedtoon]

28. Get used to the pain. She's going to be President.

After Obama is assassinated, after McCain wins and dies of a heart attack, the GOP will trumpet that they, not the "traitorous" Democrats, have the first woman President. And even if Obama isn't killed, which is unlikely, most of this country still is planning to vote Republican. No matter how bad McCain and his heir apparent is, check the electoral map; it's still mostly red. Yes, still red. Now.

If you want to smash someone, Adder, I suggest you smash your local right-wing evangelist. It'll make you feel better when the Westboro Baptist Church provides the invocation at Palin's inauguration.

[marshall]

29. Isn't HI governor Linda Lingle a closeted lesbian?

That's what I was hearing when I lived there.

[chappydog26]

30. All alone in a sea of Palin lovers

I watched Palin's speech up until she said something to the effect of "Obama says he is "fighting" for us; let me introduce you to someone who actually fought for us." That was enough of that. I got up and left the room in disgust. McCain's a POW? OMG I had no idea :crazy: She said absolutely nothing about what the Repubs are gonna do for our country. It was the poorest, most juvenile speech I've ever suffered through. Then I went to my college classes this morning, and all anyone talked about was how great she was, she brought tears to their eyes, the Dems have no chance, blah blah blah. I feel so alone here in a sea of Palin lovers!

[BallardWA]

33. Is it possible that she is the false prophet?

I'm not big on Christianity, and consider all organized religion dangerous, but I remember my Sunday schooling. Since these folks seem to have a direct line to the Almighty, perhaps they had better pull their ballooning heads out of their arses and understand that by deifying this woman they are tempting their Lord. The punishment for that is disaster, according to the Bible.
Just sayin'...

[The Wizard]

34. What vile scumbags

walk among us. Is Palin Eva Braun's illegitimate daughter? Ghouliani looks like Nosferatu. Lieberman is just plain slimy. Huckabee and Romney lied without compunction, McCane's sidekick, Dancing Queen Lindsey Graham, is the reason Log Cabin Republicans hide their faces, and the Bush cartel committed treason.
Just wondering if Sarah has a stained blue dress.

[jonestonesusa]

36. Great post - captures my feelings exactly.

It's insulting and morally bankrupt for the Republicans to keep nominating candidates who are unprepared for office, to be president for all of us. As much as one can say that Obama is "inexperienced," his career includes high levels of professional accomplishment in every arena he has worked in - law school, as an organizer, as a state senator and U.S. senator, as a presidential candidate who has won broad support from all quarters of the country and defeated a well-funded primary opponent. All the while, Obama made history as the first African American to gain a genuine chance at the presidency - much for him to be proud of and for us to support.

So who do we get from the Republicans, besides the last man standing, McCain, on the top of the ticket, with a mostly pro-Bush voting record? We get a small-town crony who tries to intimidate the librarian into banning books, supports hunting from airplanes, preaches abstinence to everyone else's kids while her teen child gets pregnant (and just as Republicans said about African American kids, taxpayers will be picking up the medical bills), opposes public assistance for other unwed mothers, takes earmark money and lies about it later...need we go on?

This ticket must be defeated so that the grown-ups of America can take power back. It's that simple.

[trackfan]

37. Excellent. n/t