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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:13 AM Original message |
Estrich Claims Kerry Wanted to Hammer Smear Immediately. Advised Not To. |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think DemStrategist was badgered out of here |
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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. DemStrategist Dissappeared when new poll numbers started coming out. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 07:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. he told us that he wasn't a member of the campaign. get off of his back |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Is the coordination between the DNC and the campaign that chaotic? |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Who are you to judge? An expert or what? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. since they so often immediately go after, that makes sense |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. Reference? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. You want a discussion based on facts? But it's so easy to make stuff up. |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. So what's the Judo and Chess way of dealing with it? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. They have to do it NOW and it has to be sustained and brutal |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Judo and Chess... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. I don't trust Susan Estrich |
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DieboldMustDie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Uh! You mean Dukakis? |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 04:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. The problem was that |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. Kerry apparently is an armchair strategist! How DARE he?? |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 04:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Kerry and Clinton - both "hand wringing armchair strategists?" |
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WiseMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
7. Lot of the folk in the Campaign are from the crew Estrich's ran in |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 04:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Some of your comments are the worst nightmares of many Democrats |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. You said it, Democrat. Our worst scenario for some of us. |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. right on democat! this is EXACTLY what the other side has been |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. Who Does Estrich Claim Advised Him Not To? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Did it even happen? |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. If you read half as well as you did political analyisis, |
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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I did not study "DemStrategist." I read a couple of his posts that |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I see. |
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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Why are you so angry that I post the Estrich statement? Are you |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. You didn't post any statement from Estrich. |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 04:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Maybe she/he's sick of being insulted for suggesting there was a mistake? |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Starting hysterical, |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I'd say at least one or two a day |
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jackstraw45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
12. DemStrategist said he DIDN'T work for the Kerry campaign |
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oldtime dfl_er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. with the Repug convention... |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Brit Hume just led Faux News with a story on the Swift Boat guys |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. Estrich is the last person who should claim expertise... |
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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. She was just reporting what she had heard when the smear began. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Where did she supposedly make this claim? Did it happen? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
26. Deleted message |
WiseMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Sorry, who is UTUSN? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
28. I Have To Take My Mom To A Doctor's Appointment |
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lottie244 (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. If Kerry can't control his own campaign...why would he make a good Pres? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. It is a republican lie to say that Kerry can't control his campaign |
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WiseMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I suspect a great campaigner would not make a great president |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. I agree with you. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. DID ESTRICH REALLY CLAIM THAT? |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Exactly! |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Sad to say, I saw it too. Explaining to Brit Hume events immediately |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. If Bush wins it would be "illegitimate"? Winning means everything! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. These Races Have A Dynamic All Their Own |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. i don't think you'll ever get any link, reference, or context..... |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Here is a link to someone who says it was from Brit Hume |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Not spread apathy.....just light fires under Kerry's Campaign so |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. thank you koko01.......... |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
48. Estrich's Dem credentials have eroded considerably since Fox has put |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
50. Rebut this |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. If this is true, I'm kind of relieved |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. If this is the case |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Keep in mind Kerry may have demoted some people |
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misterphelps (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-30-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. Does this mean they'll actually fight from now on? |
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