Pipeline Widow: The Case Todd Palin is Not Trig Palin's Dad

[demobabe]

There is a HUGE cultural gap that folks in the Lower 48 do not understand: the whole Alaska Pipeline Culture. Todd Palin works a lucrative job on the North Slope which requires him to work one week on, one week off. Simply put, he's hundreds of miles away from his wife and family for a good majority of the time.

In Alaska there is a term that was coined back in the 70s, "Pipeline Widow," for the spouses left behind by pipeline workers. There are travel booths set up on the North Slope where a worker can go and get a plane ticket to anywhere in the world, and when the pipeliners were making $200 per hour, they'd travel the world on their time off. I won't elaborate on some of the behaviors only to say that this strained arrangement frequently broke up marriages and families.

Sometimes the strain is too much on the spouse who isn't working on the Pipeline. I've heard of cases where the man came home only to find the locks changed on his own house with his replacement now living with his soon to be ex-wife.

Where I'm going with this is that the initial concern is that Bristol was Trig's mom, but now we need to ask the question: who is Trig's dad?

Mainstream reporters swamped the McCain/Palin campaign with requests for paternity tests and proof that Sarah Palin was the child's mother, which they've absolutely refused to provide.

To quote a right-wing mainstay, "If you have nothing to hide, why don't you show the proof?"

Is Sarah Palin hiding the true identity of the father of her fifth child, perhaps even from her own husband?

On Edit from Rambo Liberal, this quote from CBS:

"John McCain’s campaign threatened legal action against the National Enquirer today for running a story about McCain’s running mate, Sarah Palin, allegedly having an affair with her husband’s business partner."

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml


Other tidbits have been surfacing to suggest Sarah and Todd's relationship might be a more open marriage than your standard Christian arrangement. Note this quote from an AP article:

"Palin told The Associated Press that she and her husband, Todd, made a bet on whether Murkowski would run. If the governor says he'll enter the race, Palin has to get the Big Dipper tattooed on her ankle. If Murkowski says no, Todd gets a wedding ring inked on his finger."

Why on EARTH would she make that statement about her long time husband? What is going on with these people? There is something fishy going on here, and I think we deserve an answer since the McCain/Palin campaign has been so defensive of these issues, even going as far to cancel public appearances on normally Republican friendly TV shows like the Larry King Show.

Clearly they are hiding something, or else they wouldn't be so defensive with the media, angrily chastising them the way they have.

[Vinca]

1. Let's not go there - there's so much else. nt

[Prefer]

2. What about the issues?

the economy? the war?

[LaurenG]

3. Right - and who cares, under law the child is Palins. How low are we going to take this?

:shrug:

[symbolman]

6. Yeah

who cares if they are a couple of sluts, no biggie, it's not like they are Hyper Christians fucking everyone anyway, cutting off FUNDS for UNWED Mothers, and she did that "personally"..

[LaurenG]

10. LOL I hear you and I understand you are angry.

I hadn't seen the National Enquirer news on this when I wrote that. OMFG - :rofl:

She has a boatload of "vettin" to talk through now!

[symbolman]

20. Awww

I was only funnin' you :)

I didn't know about the Enquirer until a few minutes ago, so you beat me..

is she even going to GIVE the SPEECH?

What's the POINT? :)

[LaurenG]

22. I don't know but this is getting to be a hell of a circus

I heard the Enquirer has had "vetters" up there since the announcement. This could be fun just to watch the hypocrites talk their way out of that one. The media owes us since they failed to do their jobs over the last 8 years. - sad that the enquirer is the one to force them.

[demobabe]

21. I hadn't seen the National Enquirer news when I wrote this

Stranger and stranger....

[RagAss]

12. Until we reveal that she shot herself to win the Purple Heart.

that's how low !!!!!

[LaurenG]

14. Well I don't think you're too far off. Though the names may have changed

and circumstances a bit different, you may have hit the nail on the head.

[corkhead]

4. maybe this explains it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6905645&mesg_id=6905645
:tinfoilhat:

[vaberella]

5. Two things...I think this is outlandish and desperate. Secondly, that's just sleazy shit to do. n/t

[symbolman]

7. You are calling the WRONG person Sleazy

take a look at the CANDIDATES, not a DU'r..

idiots.

[vaberella]

52. Oy...

My post wasn't calling the DU'er sleazy. She's just repeating the rumored news that's being spread like hot cakes.

My post is on the story itself and that it's sleazy and we shouldnt' focus our attention on it so much, but focus on the issues. So far every story that has come out about Palin is not necessarily untrue but there's a "fall guy/girl" ---> Of course this is relating to the cleaned up stories. This new one is going into a direction that is truly reprehensible.

Maybe it's because I was an Edwards supporter who didn't think his private life had anything to do with his professional career. I realize to some that is more important than not. However, I would like to hold that up to anyone.

I'm just not on this band wagon, although other Edwards fans probably are revelling in this. But once again, I wasn't calling the DU'er sleazy.

[Wapsie B]

8. Now this is what I'm talking about!

If you talk the talk, you damn well better walk the walk.

[Life Long Dem]

9. Todd saw to Trig over McSame's VP choice in which Palin was with Brit and Larry over Tom

Or something like that. :sarcasm:

[Name removed]

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[Bucky]

13. Are you insane? Obviously the post of a disruptor.

Get your head right or get over to Freep Republic, where this anti-woman trash and slash politics belong.

[demobabe]

25. Hi bucky, no, I'm not a disruptor

I've been in the trenches on the liberal side for years and years, have an interesting resume in that regard. I've posted on your threads, too. You didn't call me a disruptor then.

National Enquirer is reporting some interesting things, read up... peace.

[No Elephants]

15. Confused. Most neo fundies I know think tattoos are against the Bible.

[951-Riverside]

16. or maybe he is

think for a moment then... :puke:

[demobabe]

19. Like I said, then they have nothing to hide. Right?

I have no problems whatsoever with being wrong about all of this. All they have to do is show me the proof.

[Bombtrack]

17. This kind of empty bullshit speculation thread can or will be our downfall

not kicked and not reccomended.

[RamboLiberal]

18. CBS just blogged the Story and National Review has it up

ST. PAUL, MINN.) – John McCain’s campaign threatened legal action against the National Enquirer today for running a story about McCain’s running mate, Sarah Palin, allegedly having an affair with her husband’s business partner.

“The smearing of the Palin family must end. The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Gov. Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie,” said McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt.

“The efforts of the media and tabloids to destroy this fine and accomplished public servant are a disgrace. The American people will reject it.”

The Enquirer also alleges that Palin unjustly fired a public safety official while she was governor of Alaska, but the story is based entirely on unnamed sources. The Enquirer has also paid sources in the past to speak with them, something mainstream media outlets do not do.

“Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin look forward to discussing the issues that Americans care about, fixing broken government, creating jobs, making our country energy independent and securing the peace for the next generation by bringing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a victorious end,” said Schmidt.

“Legal action will be considered with regard to this disgraceful smear.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

[demobabe]

23. Well, maybe if it's that guy's kid instead of Todd's...

...they'll applaud her for keeping the child - I can see it happening.

[GoesTo11]

32. Legal action will be "considered"?? Just considered? Them's weasel words.

If someone printed a false story about me having an affair, there wouldn't be any consider about it. I'd sue they ass.

Maybe that's just me.

[demobabe]

34. Exactly.

[TexasObserver]

38. I would LOVE to see that. This threat shows how little McCain understands lawsuits.

Please, please file suit against the Enquirer!!

That is a blank check to conduct court ordered discovery into EVERY issue that is connected to the case, including the medical records that might reveal the truth. One cannot file a lawsuit claiming damage to their reputation without subjecting themselves to the search for the truth, from their own records.

[demobabe]

40. Now THAT would be beautiful!

I guarantee there would be a paternity test ordered then! :popcorn:

[slackmaster]

24. Another decoy, folks

Don't waste ammunition on it.

[demobabe]

26. How would you know?

This is a serious question. They are hiding something, and the question is worth asking.

[slackmaster]

28. I suspect it is a decoy because of the unusual number of "stories" that have turned out to be BS

1. Some kind of sordid story gets "leaked".

2. LW blogs vomit all over themselves.

3. Story turns out to be bogus.

Over and over and over.

[demobabe]

27. It's also interesting to note that she hid her pregnancy for SEVEN months

Sure, there are other reasons this could be, but it is still suspect...

[Arkansas Granny]

29. You are making a story out of nothing but conjecture. Unless you have some

facts to back up these accusations, they would be better left alone. National Enquirer is not what I would consider a reliable source.

[demobabe]

31. Prove to me Todd Palin is the father.

They refuse to show a birth certificate or produce a paternity test. They have nothing to hide, right? Then it shouldn't be a problem.

[Arkansas Granny]

46. You're the one hawking the story. Prove to me that he's not.

[demobabe]

48. No, you go first.

Please :)

[Beacool]

30. Who cares!!!!!!!!

Enough already!!! There's plenty on Palin's conservative views to attack her on, there's no need to delve into her bedroom.

This is starting to turn into a sexist attack on the woman and it may backfire. Women are women first and party affiliation comes second or lower down the line. I remember when the media viciously attacked Hillary between the IA and NH primaries, even Republican women were rooting for her to win the NH primary. The sexist attacks were that rampant by the media and the LW blogs. I see the same thing now being done to Palin.

Stick to the issues, her marriage and her kids are none of anybody's business.

[demobabe]

33. Typically I wouldn't care, except...

We're dealing with the party that makes these kinds of things routine issues when they happen to Democrats and also make laws that affect your own personal behavior.

Believe me, if Repugs continue holding office, they'll have no problem legislating what goes on in your bedroom. You have to hold them to their own standards, or else YOU could be toast.

Makes sense to live and let live, but Republicans don't adhere to this idea... you are far too civil and rational. :)

[Beacool]

42. I just don't like women to be attacked in sexist terms.

Even women who I don't agree with politically or want anywhere near the Oval office. I hated what was done to Hillary and, because I'm not a hypocrite, I don't like what I see is being done to Palin either. I don't find it amusing to question whether she could perform the job while taking care of a baby with disabilities and a pregnant daughter. Would anybody dream of asking similar questions if she were a man? Hell, no!!!

Feminism is something that applies to ALL women, not just the ones we like.

[Shakespeare]

37. How is it sexist?

Was it sexist when the Enquirer reported on Edwards' affair?

This is ALL fair game, and ALL deserves coverage.

[sniffa]

41. Who are you responding to?

Is it one of the dead-ender, Victims?

[Beacool]

43. Many of the attacks on Palin are sexist.

I don't want the woman to become our next VP, but I refuse to bash her on a personal level. I didn't like it when it was done to Hillary and I don't like it being done to Palin or any other woman, for that matter. I'm not a feminist just to stand up for the women I like, that's way too easy.

[Beacool]

44. Many of the attacks on Palin are sexist.

I don't want the woman to become our next VP, but I refuse to bash her on a personal level. I didn't like it when it was done to Hillary and I don't like it being done to Palin or any other woman, for that matter. I'm not a feminist just to stand up for the women I like, that's way too easy.

[Beacool]

45. Oops, sorry for the double post.

:eyes:

[demobabe]

47. Personal attack does not equal sexist attack

Mixing way too many things here. Enjoy some humor:

[Beacool]

49. Wow, they do look alike.

Thanks!!

:hi:

[demobabe]

50. I died laughing when I saw it...

...amazing, huh? :D

[Shakespeare]

51. Example, please.

Until you can offer a specific example of a sexist attack on Palin, your accusation is baseless.

Going after her for various scandals, including those within her family, are NOT sexist. That's just plain old politics. And considering the hypocrisy of the right wing, we need to be going after them HARD.

[TrogL]

35. Do we have a photograph of the business partner?

[demobabe]

36. Good question... I want to see it, too.

[demobabe]

39. Where is the birth certificate? Why is there no record of birth at MatSu?

Andrew Sullivan had posted the hospital birth records where Trig was born. No baby recofd matched Trig on the day he was born. What is going on here?

[demobabe]

53. Jake Tapper: Is the McCain Camp Spreading Smears in the Name of Fighting Them?

Obviously, they want to rally voters behind her. But are they doing Palin a service?

"Members of this campaign went to off-the-record lunches with reporters today," Schmidt told Katie Couric, Tuesday, according to Politico, "and they were asked if she would do paternity tests to prove paternity for her last child. Smear after smear after smear, and it's disgraceful and it's wrong. And the American people are going to reject it overwhelmingly when they see her."

First, that's an intriguing definition of off-the-record, but second, what a reporter asks is not the same thing as what a reporter reports. It could be argued that Schmidt, raising the notion of paternity on national TV, did far more to spread that unpleasantness to millions of voters than anything anyone in the mainstream media did.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/is-the-mccain-c.html