Confusing Polls, now Bush beats Dean by 14?

[ringmastery]

The day before Gallup had Bush only beating Dean by 5.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential%20Contenders_January%202004.htm

In the first Rasmussen Reports' general election survey of 2004, the President leads Howard Dean by a 51% to 37% margin. The Republican holds an even larger lead against other potential Democratic challengers.

However, when paired against a generic Democrat, Bush leads by a much narrower 5-point margin, 47% to 42%.

When paired against any of the Democratic contenders, the President is favored by 50% or 51% of those surveyed. Other than Howard Dean, all of the Democratic contenders attract between 29% of the vote (Edwards) and 34% of the vote (Lieberman).

[Dems Will Win]

1. Scott Rasmussen is a Republican hack - his polls are all RW

Set that poll on ignore!

[joefree1]

2. Zing

OK, someone turn out the lights. Wonder what's happening in the lounge.


Images from Dean Rocks the House of Blues, Hollywood
From wtmusic http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=919849
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[windansea]

3. check this

In the most recent NH poll (a real one, by American Research Group) that pitted Democrats versus Bush:

- Kerry and Lieberman both lose to Bush by 15%
- Clark and Gephardt lose by 19%
- Howard Dean by loses 25%.

[JI7]

4. that rasputin poll is not reliable, it was HORRIBLE in 2000

i remember this poll from 2000 and it is NOT reliable. i can't remember exactly what but their methods used for getting the data makes it less reliable. i would advise all on here to ignore this poll.

[AP]

5. A couple days ago, I scanned a post by someone claiming they had

evidence that the WashPost was push-polling for Dean. They'd ask a series of quesitons only about Dean, and then ask who the person preferred.

I'd love to see the entire list of questions asked in any poll which has Dean matching up well against Bush.

I really think the media is worried that voters are catching on to the fact that Dean might not match-up well against Bush and would like to get some polls out that show him closer than he is.

Of course, I'm also open to the possibility that the gap is honestly closing just because the media ONLY talks about Dean. However, I am so convinced that Bush would be able to demolish Dean if Dean gets the nomination. So even if Dean did get close, I'm pretty sure the gap would open wide if he got nominated.

[joefree1]

6. Hello, this is a polster for Faux news

"Rasmussen on Fox--Scott Rasmussen is a frequent guest analyst on the Fox News Channel. His next appearance is scheduled for Monday, January 5, at 2:35 pm Eastern Time."

[teryang]

7. Sunday night CNN interviewed pollster

...who said Dean v. Bush was too close to call. I believe it was 51 to 46 (Bush/Dean) with a 3.5 margin of error.

Yes the results of this poll were posted by Dems will win on the other thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=68713