Conservatives launch TV attack ad on Dean

[joefree1]

Conservatives launch TV attack ad on Dean

By Ralph Z. Hallow
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A conservative advocacy group will begin running a TV ad in Iowa against Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean, in a move questioned by some of President Bush's supporters.
The Club for Growth Political Action Committee said the 30-second spot against the former Vermont governor will begin running in Des Moines today — two weeks before the Iowa Democratic caucuses.
In the ad, a farmer says he thinks that "Howard Dean should take his tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading ..." before the farmer's wife then finishes the sentence: "... Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show back to Vermont, where it belongs."
More ...
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040105-103754-1355r.htm

Where they find a real farmer? Right before his farm got auctioned to the Corporate farms? Please, please let this ad get some media attention. And not just from the Moonie Times.


Images from Dean Rocks the House of Blues, Hollywood
From wtmusic http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=919849
From Joefree1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=921300

On edit: Do you think some farmers might not like to be stereo typed as the inbred rednecks this ad portrays?

[POed_Ex_Repub]

1. Oooooh, my, my, my...

Dean will be up another 5% after this one.

[FrenchieCat]

2. Which is what

the repugs are banking on!

[Forkboy]

9. sheesh

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[sandnsea]

24. My thoughts exactly, and...

I'm reading Madelaine Albright's book. She worked on the Muskie campaign and during a dinner fundraiser all sorts of unordered items showed up. Flowers, limousines, pizzas, even magicians. They thought it was Mondale but years later she learned it was Nixon. They absolutely do play with each other's campaigns in order to get the candidate they think would be easiest to beat.

[dave29]

46. because they will

run screamin' for the hills if Clark starts rising in the polls. :eyes:

Try to think of the ways they will attack him. Just try it. There's a couple, I assure you. He just hasn't earned the right for them to be scared of him yet.

When you are ready to be on the front lines of the political battlefield against Republicans and their agenda, please feel free to join. We're enlisting. Until then, by all means, continue your sabotage, and see where it gets you.

[TLM]

49. Nope the repukes are counting on

A candidate with no campaign skill, no record, and who wants to make the campaign about defense and security.

[dobak]

5. It will help Dean....

at least with liberals. Which is what the caucus us all about.

[blm]

3. Stephen Moore helping his old CATO buddy out again.

Attack Dean so the base comes to his defense.

[wtmusic]

12. No, you've got it all wrong

The strategy is this: Attack Dean so the base comes to his defense, so the RNC redoubles its efforts, so Clark takes the nomination, so the RNC can use the Clark line, 'Bush has a great team', so 2004 is * in a landslide!

Why didn't I think of that :silly:

[Cheswick2.0]

26. now if someone would just attack Kerry, huh?

With all his inside connections can't Kerry arrange to get attacked?

[HFishbine]

34. Liberals and farmers, take note

The six previous posts fail to condemn the ads for stereotyping liberals and farmers.

[TLM]

50. So does the same apply to others who attack Dean?

Are the kerry supporters here attacking Dean to help the republicans?

[emanymton]

4. Let The Music Play.

Sounds like a scene from "Green Acres."

I'd laugh but there are many in USA who believe the "hick" farmer exist. Where is Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor when we need them?

[isbister]

6. Borrow, tax and spend republicans

* Overall discretionary spending: 2001 $664 billion; 2002 $735 billion; 2003 $846 billion; 2004 $873 billion.

* Overall discretionary spending increase under Bush, 2002 through 2004: $209 billion, or 10.5 percent annually.

* Overall discretionary spending increase under Clinton, 1994 through 2001: $141 billion, or 3.4 percent annually.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/01/05/national1441EST0604.DTL&type=printable

[madfloridian]

7. They don't need to launch attack ads.

Let them save their money. All they have to do is come here. Certain anti-Dean folks are doing all the work for them right here.
This is actually no worse than another site with the initials FR, when it comes to Dean.

[blm]

13. Here...just so you feel better

when you realize that Dean got plenty of hits in first and the GOP loved it.

USA Today, April 28, 2003

>>>>
"Until now, the competition has been relatively harmonious, at least for public consumption, with the exception of Dean. His attacks on fellow Democrats have been so cutting that sometimes the Republican National Committee e-mails them to party members. "Gephardt Plan: 'Pie-In-The-Sky Radical Revamping' " was the headline on one last week, quoting Dean.

Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri have been Dean targets in recent weeks. But Dean has reserved his sharpest thrusts for Kerry, repeatedly accusing him of selling out Democratic principles. The two men are virtually tied for the lead in polls in New Hampshire, which holds the critically important first primary election."
>>>>>
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-28-dem-words_x.htm

[joefree1]

15. Yeap, that's politics

But when DUers do personal smears on the candidates or their supporters thats out of line.

I especially hate when someone calls a Candidate a liar!

I don't care who their candidate is. Either someone is ABB or they should head over to Freeperville.

Course folks, some of these jerks are from Freeperville.

[mouse7]

21. That article is quoting a GOP e-mail, not Dean

Dean didn't say that headline about Gephardt, the GOP e-mail did, see...

"His attacks on fellow Democrats have been so cutting that sometimes the Republican National Committee e-mails them to party members."

This means the REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE sent an email to it's members.

"Gephardt Plan: 'Pie-In-The-Sky Radical Revamping' " was the headline on one last week, quoting Dean."

That means the author of the GOP e-mail wrote the headline, not Dean. It never says what Dean actually said... only that a Dean quote was included in the GOP e-mail. Pardon me if I do not take the word of the GOP on what was said and what wasn't.

I said it and thanked you when you found a good source for Dean supporting Biden-Lugar. I'll say it if the source is good. This one isn't.

[blm]

25. That wasn't the point, though, was it?

The article was talking about Dean attacking the others EARLY and doing so relentlessly.

Dean sowing discord.

[Cheswick2.0]

27. Kerry was free to do the right thing

He didn't and he got called on it.

[blm]

28. What are you talking about?

Are you trying to suggest that Kerry NEVER should have reciprocated Dean's attacks?

If Kerry was wrong to reciprocate after months of attacks by Dean, then was Dean wrong for initiating and perpetuauting attacks? What kind of blatant double standard is that?

[KaraokeKarlton]

35. Boo

Fucking Hoo. :eyes:

[wtmusic]

8. Hilarious...from 'bring him on' to 'make him go away'

'pubs are pissing their pants. Most enjoyable.

btw joe everytime you post my link I have to go take a look at those two ladies from house of blues (sigh)

[joefree1]

14. Hey now

Your wife read DU?

[wtmusic]

16. Er, no

thank you dear, may I have another?

:spank:

[janx]

10. This ad is going to anger a lot of Iowans and Iowa farmers.

But Rove et al. are too stupid to realize it. They have no respect for people.

[JasonDeter]

11. republicans must really think Iowans are stupid.

Lets see if the media picks up on this lying hypocricy of the republican party antics. Plausible deniability of the republican leadership will not fly here.
sarcasm on.
And lets see if bushshite will condemn it, since he supposedly broght civility back to politics.
sarcasm off.

[specimenfred1984]

17. Don't Tell Iowa Cons That Lattes Have Iowa Cowsmilk in Them

and that by bashing coffee drinkers they are killing their own livelyhoods.

Repubs even hate coffee, you can't get much more hateful than that. Or maybe they can, they do afterall hate clean air!

[frogbison]

18. Will have to see it to believe it

They (The Club for Growth Political Action Committee) can't be that stupid, can they?

Stop me from celebrating now, if this is Republicanism.

[ShimokitaJer]

42. I don't buy it either

It looks like a parody ad one of us DUers would make. I can't believe anyone stupid enough to think that ad would be a good idea.

[Eric J in MN]

19. The Republicans who supported Arnold Schwartzenegger in spite

The Republicans who supported Arnold Schwartzenegger in spite of his social policy positions are calling Democrats "Hollywood-loving."

[Bombtrack]

20. maybe they'd like to be stereotyped as confederate flag waving

pickup truck driving rednecks. Oh wait, Only the SOUTHERN whites are the racists one's, right doctor Dean?

This is probably meant to rile up the Dean-supporters and raise more cash for Dean, which is what happened with the Gillespie/Vermont trip. The Dean campaign even said that they loved when that happened.

[jcgadfly]

29. I love the way people spin that quote out of context.

Gee, how dare Dean want to be the president for all the people?

The quote:

"I intend to talk about race during this election in the South. The Republicans have been talking about it since 1968 in order to divide us, and I'm going to bring us together. Because you know what? White folks in the South who drive pickup trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back ought to be voting with us because their kids don't have health insurance either, and their kids need better schools too."

So "white folks in the South who drive pickup trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back" shouldn't have health and education concerns.

At least Dean acknowledges they exist.

[Bombtrack]

30. he said it dozens of times, in different contexts

.

[jcgadfly]

33. Please provide one

Better yet, deny the main thrust of the argument.

Dean acknowledges that there are white guys in the south who have Confederate flag stickers on their trucks. The other candidates dismiss these actual people as a "stereotype".

How can the other candidates claim to want to be president for all the people when they deny a group of them exist?

[HFishbine]

36. Chirp, chirp, chirp.... (nt)

[Hep]

43. To think that Dean stereotyped the way you allege

gives us insight as to how YOU view the south.

[dave29]

47. So, let them do it

they'll really wish they hadn't. That is, unless you guys stay home on election day if Dean is the nominee.

[maddezmom]

22. ACK!

this is only the beginning for all our candidates.

[BootinUp]

31. What are they thinking?

Its still early primary season! Well if they want to waste their money go ahead. But I really don't see the point.

Like democratic primary voters are going to take heed from a RW screed. /sarcasm (Hey that rhymes.) :)

[KaraokeKarlton]

32. Oh Goody! Looks like Bush is going to run like Dwyer did

It's going to get nasty from the right...and Dean will just keep telling them the truth.

How obvious is it that they don't have anything to honestly criticize Dean on? If this is the best they can do, Bush had best start packing his bags now! :D

[Stuckinthebush]

37. Wait just a gosh-darned minute!

I thought that the GOP wanted Dean to win the nomination? Why would they spend money for an ad during the Democratic caucus season in Iowa? Why does this help them if they want Dean? Shouldn't they be attacking Gephardt instead with their ad money? Wouldn't this be the better tack at ensuring a Dean win.....

Oh...hang on...I just thought of something...

They don't want Dean to win the frickin' nomination!

Those sneaky GOP fellas!

[SeattleRob]

38. remember...

The Republicans are spending money on attack ads before any primary or Iowa caucus votes have been cast because they think Dean will be the easiest candidate for Bush to defeat.

Isn't it becoming obvious to even the most avid Dean critics that the Republicans are worried about Dean?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

39. Double Win for the Conservatives

1) They get their attack ad out there and in the minds of the moderates and Republicans in the event Dean is the nominee.

2) By attacking Dean, they increase the chances that Dean is the nominee, which is their wet dream. This is because every anti-Dean attack ad the conservatives air results in more Dean money and a hardening of support for Dean, by both his already-existing supporters and other angry undecided Democrats.

DTH

[RetroLounge]

41. Which will lead to Dean winning the GE too!

"2) By attacking Dean, they increase the chances that Dean is the nominee, which is their wet dream. This is because every anti-Dean attack ad the conservatives air results in more Dean money and a hardening of support for Dean, by both his already-existing supporters and other angry undecided Democrats."

You have NOTHING to support this but conjecture.

If they want Dean, then I say, Bring 'Em On!

He'll Spank the CHimp all over the stage in any debate.

[blm]

44. Glad others see it.

You can tell the longtime Bush machine watchers. We can smell the manipulation from miles away.

[maddezmom]

40. kick

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. More (inadvertent) help to the Dean campaign from the Republicans.

You can't buy publicity this good....

[w4rma]

48. Wow. Now THAT is an insulting ad, to farmers and Vermonters.

<sarcasm>Bush is a uniter, not a divider!</sarcasm>

[adamrsilva]

51. GOP strategists admitted they were perplexed by this

They might want to call off the dogs now they know Dean's just 5 pts behind Bush. Ads like this will only insure he is the nominee!

[bain_sidhe]

52. "Ads like this will only insure he is the nominee!"

Duh.