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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:22 PM
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The whole pregnancy thang and what it says about Palin;s character.
Honestly, I'm not sure what to believe about these pregnant/not-pregnant rumors. But I do think we have some very clear evidence about Ms. Palin's character either way.

If you believe that the baby is her daughter's child, and she is trying to pass him off as her own this shows her character as flawed. She has lied and lied big. More than that she has asked other people to lie for her own interests, and heaven only knows what kind of pressure she would need to apply to accomplish this.

On the other hand, if you believe the baby is hers as she has stated publicly, then she has shown poor judgment to the point of extreme selfishness. She has put her unborn child at risk by making some very unwise and self serving choices when he was at his most vulnerable point. Here's another point that I haven't seen discussed: What about her daughter Bristol? Obviously the family has had to have heard of these rumors, and I would wager they are very upsetting to the girl. In my opinion, the responsible thing for Palin to do as a mother is to take whatever actions are necessary to put these rumors to rest. The fact that she has ignored them and not come to the defense of her daughter speaks volumes about her lack of character. In my opinion either way you look at it, the woman is behaving as a narcissist.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:30 PM
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1. Good points all.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:34 PM
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2. KO mentioned in passing (Friday?) that she is breast feeding --
I cannot find anything to confirm this other than "forums" that pop up on a google search for the words breast feeding Palin.

If she is indeed breast feeding - she is the Mom and a terrifically irresponsible one at that.

Either way - a lose lose for RNC. Either a liar or a BAD MOTHER.

They could spin the lie ala "She wants to protect her daughter and LOVES Trig and God's Will") - but they cannot spin the recklessness of her behavior going to Houston at 36 weeks and then taking time to finish her speech to make her an "energy expert" before heading home for 11 hours AFTER amniotic leakage to deliver.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:38 PM
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3. Well, I breastfed my adopted daughter...
and she has Down syndrome just like the littlest Palin, so that in and of itself isn't proof that she's the mama.

But I do agree about the recklessness being a very tough thing to rationalize.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:52 PM
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5. How did you lactate without actually giving birth?
I asked my new Mom Daughter-in-Law -who just gave birth at 39 and she said it wasn't possible as far as she knew.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:58 PM
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7. It definitely is possible!
I had given birth and breastfed my two oldest daughters, so my system knew what to do. Once I had a little one suckling again, I started to produce breastmilk very quickly. She was completely breastfed for her whole first year of life:) As for women who have never breastfed previously, it's more difficult but not unheard of. I have an friend who adopted a little guy and she was able to breastfeed as well. I do believe that her physician prescribed some kind of medication for her at the start, but I'm not sure about that.

Historically women have often fed children that aren't their own, even if they aren't lactating at the time. In fact a grandmother taking over for an ill or deceased daughter/mother was a scenario I have heard described more than once.

So there ya go... more than you wanted to know, right?;)
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 06:34 PM
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9. Thanks for the info
Also verified by a subsequent google search. Good for you -- possibly not good for Palin, if indeed, she is fabricating the situation to the extent of inducing lactation for the coverup.

If the baby is Down's - may have a bit of trouble "latching on" -- but then, maybe not Down's -- but half Inuit with the epithelial eye folds. Giving the appearance of Down's to a Caucasian viewer.

So the gossip continues -- to the Palin family's detriment.

I do not wish negativity on her daughter or possible grandson -- BUT the "family values" crowd needs to start major rationalizing now.

And McCain needs to come to grips with the consequences of pandering for electoral gain without considering the fate of America if he leaves the scene due to melanoma or something else.

So at the very least - she is irresponsible -- and so is he.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 06:43 PM
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10. You are most welcome:)
Honestly, I feel very sorry for all of her children. It seems she is most likely to act in ways that benefit herself even when it hurts her children... and as a parent, that kind of behavior is just way beyond my comprehension.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:52 PM
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6. Is there a source for the details of the flight and all that aspect
I am not familiar with that stuff.

As far as the breastfeeding, how does Olberman know, that's just probably the official statement from the campaign to appeal to progressives. Republicans usually use formula.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 06:03 PM
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8. I'm sorry, I don't have any links for that.
But there is a proliferation of posts on the subject, so a little digging should yield some if you're interested.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 05:50 PM
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4. WHat about the father of the baby
If it is not hers, the father isn't even going to be known as the father, ever.
Is that right? Sounds illegal.

If it is hers - what mother goes to work after 3 days! My wife couldn't get up for 3 days. Plus this is important bonding time.

And being that thin, there is no way you have a baby with no bump. 300 pound women, maybe, but not a swimsuit model figure.

Have there been any bump photos produced that could further her case? (I am not up on the details of this scandal)
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 06:47 PM
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11. Good points... either way this story needs to get more attention
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