Palin "pregnancy" story as worthless as bill getting a bj in white house.

[george_maniakes]

Palin has an even better reason for lying, its her fucking kid for crying out loud. Doesnt make what she did right, but fucking around with trivial shit like this when there is so much more out there to fight with is a waste of time and resources.

[yardwork]

1. Insurance fraud. Falsifying birth certificates. Lying to the public as governor.

Taking a child away from his true mother. Hypocrisy. I could go on...

[KittyWampus]

17. yeah, you're going to prove all that on the internets. The mediawhores will jump right on it too

making her seem more sympathetic, focusing on something personal rather than political. I could go on...

but the stupidity of obsessing over something you can't ever prove is absurd.

[SoCalDem]

20. Call Dan Rather... maybe he's got John Edwards' phone number

:rofl:

[Thothmes]

37. Sorta looms up there with perjury to prevent the truth

coming out about a blow job?

[avaistheone1]

38. Those of us who fight for the rights of teens to basic access to health and sexuality info and

services would disagree. This issues is important.

If you have a fundamentalist mother who is lying about her teenage daughter's pregnancy while on the other hand supporting an agenda of abstinence only education...the republican have a BIG problem with political and social dimensions.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Sure, george

:rofl:

[marylanddem]

3. Lots of people seem interested in squashing this story. n/t

[tekisui]

7. Lots and lots of people.

If there is nothing there, there is nothing to worry about.

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. The stories have gotten over 4,000 diggs on their site

Don't forget who watches and uses diggs on their sites, like the BBC and others.

[KittyWampus]

18. lots of fools think it's got "legs" and is more important than Palin's ACTUAL RECORD.

do you even know anything about her tenure as govt official in Alaska?

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. Those records are also getting legs too

Quit your whining.

[11 Bravo]

4. I seem to remember an impeachment. It didn't seem "trivial" at the time.

[ecstatic]

5. Too bad "worthless" stories work nt

[krawhitham]

6. The BJ is what cost Gore the WH

It would not have been close enough to steal Florida

[Catch22Dem]

8. Uh...Bill's BJ cost us the presidency in 2000

Had it not been for that bullshit story, the election wouldn't have been NEARLY close enough to steal.

[Virginia Dare]

36. I seem to remember 100 million being spent on an investigation..

trivial. Right. The OP is in the twilight zone.

[True_Blue]

9. I think we should be hammering on the ethics charges

I think Americans will be a lot more concerned about her abuse of power as Gov.

[seabeyond]

10. then she should not have taken vp position where it would come out exposing her KID

to national humiliation

pretty she thing for her to do to her KID. a simple no thank you and let the kid not face this would be more in line to what a parent protecting HER kid would do

[No Elephants]

11. Why on earth would you assume she did any of that for her daughter?

[Ernesto-Che-Guevara]

12. I disagree

Clinton didn't go around pretending to be a moral God. Palin and conservatives do, and if she really faked a pregnancy, their hypocrisy has to be pointed out. It's the way i see it.

[RichGirl]

13. I thought this too.

But...there's something that totally doesn't make sense. Like Clinton, this is not about the daughter, that's none of our business. It's about the LYING.

There is just NO WAY any responsible woman would get on a plane AFTER her water broke. When there is no water, the baby is immediately at risk. Even a healthy, full term baby would suffer with the lack of water.

Instead of discussing it here...we need to send our concerns to all media outlets and INSIST they get DOCTORS to comment on this. NO DOCTOR is going to say it was okay to do that. Any doctor would have talked her out of it and told her she was putting her baby at huge risk.

On this board this story sounds petty. So send it to the media.

[Window]

14. Agree.

[Leftist Agitator]

15. "Palin has an even better reason for lying"

Yeah, her fucking political career.

"But it'z for teh CHILDRENS!!! OH NOES!!!"

:eyes:

[Quixote1818]

21. No Kidding. What odd reasoning from the OP. nt

[george_maniakes]

26. A mother trying to protect her child is something a lot of people can sympathize with.

Doesnt matter that thats probably not the reason. Hell, john mccain picked palin for vice president, where the fuck is the sense in that?

Do not put obama in a position where he is criticizing the palin familys decisions like that, unless there is one hell of a smoking gun ( palin on video screaming "im not jeopardizing my political career cause you got pregnant!" or something like that)

[NightWatcher]

16. but the bj story WORKED for them. got bill impeached didnt it?

[george_maniakes]

19. Obama should not be put in a position where he has to explain why he's interested in palins family

affairs. Obama is NOT just like any other politician, he's trying to be better than that. Palin's record is chock full of things to go after (agreeing with obama's energy plan, teaching creationism in schools, What global warming?, whats a shiite?) and all those things matter, whereas palin having some sort of wierd ass family problems with an underage pregnancy does not.

[Raine]

22. It's a BIG story that people are interested in

I also post on a TV Discussion board (not political) and those people are all over it, VERY interested. This thing has legs and hopefully will be the undoing of shoot em up Sarah.

[JVS]

23. They got a lot of mileage out of that story

[Jade Fox]

25. We have the right to ask if "Abstinence Only" sex ed failed in her family

since she would force it on the rest of us.

Since Fundamentalists like Palin aren't trying to take away your access to birth control and abortion, you don't care. Women do.

[george_maniakes]

27. You just posted two great reasons to fight her on.

"Since Fundamentalists like Palin aren't trying to take away your access to birth control and abortion, you don't care. Women do."

Fight her on that. Not "Is that down syndrome child yours or your daughters?".

[Jade Fox]

28. You miss my point about "abstinence only" sex ed....

and whether or not it failed in her family with her teen-aged daughter, and Palin covered it up. As a scenario, it's not as far-fetched as it may sound. It used to happen a lot.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6848571&mesg_id=6848571

[george_maniakes]

31. I see your point, but at the end of the day, she can just say "private family matter", the palin

family circles the wagons, and you have a palin on tv holding a young down syndrome child asking "why does obama want to destroy our family?" Yes, the republican party is full of shit when it comes to family values, but what does obama get out of this "Aha! See , she might have tried to cover up that her teenage daughter was pregnant". There are too many escape routes on that issue, and with everything else going wrong in the states, focusing on this issue seems absurd. I'm not saying don't throw a log on the fire, i'm just saying don't make it anywhere near an important arguement obama has to win. If he points out
"Whats wrong with the palin family?", backing out of that if it goes bad, or nowhere which is just as bad, will be harsh.

[phleshdef]

30. If its true, its worth a mint if it helps keep John McCain out of the Whitehouse

I'm not saying that I believe that the baby was really her daughters. However, if it were true, I think its extremely important to know what kind of person might be in a position to take over the country, if needed. Someone who would go to that length to keep people from knowing she had a pregnant teenage daughter would arguably go to great lengths to protect other secrets that she would not want the American people to know about.

One of the biggest problems (among thousands) that I have with the Bush administration is their policies of secrecy and anti-transparent government. If the potential vice president operates in that same vein for her own interests, then its something the American people SHOULD know about and SHOULD care about.

Its a question of character and integrity. If her daughter were pregnant, the only rational reasons that someone would go to such great lengths to cover it up would be political in nature. You can then draw the conclusion that if Sarah Palin would engage in such a huge act of deception for political reasons, then her character and integrity have much to be questioned.

[bobd0]

32. Bill Clinton faced impeachment over "trivial shit"

Should Palin and the Republicans get off the hook for "trivial shit" when Democratic leaders face trial for same? I think not. Trivial shit is all the American people understand or are interested in. It's what they base their votes on. This story is picking up steam and I say, "Bring it on!" until we have "Mission Accomplished!"

[bobd0]

33. Bill Clinton faced impeachment over "trivial shit"

DP

Got an error message and wound up with two posts for one click!

[vaberella]

34. Exactly. Moving on. Let's focus on the facts, enough to there to ruin her. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

35. Worthless. Right.

no political implication whatsoever. Whatever. Bye....:hi:

[JVS]

39. This thread makes baby Otto von Bismarck cry.

I can't believe how many people are denying the most advantageously milked scandal of the last 30 years.

Realpolitik: you're doing it wrong!