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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:08 PM
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The Palin Pick Frightens Me
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 10:46 PM by demwing
because I didn't believe McCain was that stupid!

Maybe McCain knows his ass is fried on a stick, and so he wanted to nominate ANY female possible as a hail mary move, or maybe he has something insidious planned against Obama - something thats a complete deal breaker for the Dems.

OMG - what if there's video of Obama and Osamma laughing and burning an American flag while simultaneously having sex with 144, 13 year old virgin....boys.

But that would be buffoonery. I mean....please.

This is either the most ridiculous political move of our generation, or we have some worrying to do. :sarcasm:

Edited to add the sarcasm tag, for those who didn't catch it, and to clean up my point, which may have gotten muddled by the fact that McCain's pick has really left my head spinning a bit, and made me wonder "WTF? Will the next few months be that easy?"
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:11 PM
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1. I Vote for Ridiculous
The GOP is playing poker with a pair of 2's. They don't know when to fold.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:11 PM
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2. You don't have to be stupid per se to try a Hail Mary pass . . .
just desperate. After Wednesday and Thursday, they were desperate.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:30 PM
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9. Clearly desperate.
Sometimes desperation makes people brave. Sometimes it makes them stupid.


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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:30 PM
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18. Grover Norquist says (I know, I know) that choices that come as a surprise . . .
Are seldom wise. He got that one right. (To be fair, he goes on to say that he considers this choice to be both.)
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:13 PM
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3. Ridiculous
But I'm not surprised. The Repukes have no regard for the office of the President or Vice President, at least now they've been reduced to showing their disregard out in the open.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:14 PM
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4. Find that video? Any guy who can stay up that long should
be supreme leader.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:49 PM
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14. That video exists
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 10:49 PM by demwing
only in the feverish dreams of the GOP faithful who are watching any chance for their party to snag the presidency sink faster and dirtier than the Exxon Valdez.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:16 PM
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5. The pick was forced on him. He has no control over anything
If they win they are going to force his ass out of there in 2 months. Palin and Jindal are Rove's people. They are puppets. Cheney will be running the show with Palin as President. You should be Frightened.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:17 PM
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6. You would've found a reason to be frightened no matter who he picked...
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:24 PM
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7. And if you send me an email address
I'll draw you a picture in response. Does every sarcastic statement have to have the sarcasm tag attached for you?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:28 PM
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8. Dan Qauyle beat Lloyd Bentsen. Sometimes a pick is just so stupid
that people think there must be more to it than what they see.

Also, low expectations often lead to those expectations being exceeded. Maybe she's stronger than we expect. She wouldn't have to be good with the expectations people are setting for her. She would just have to be able to speak clear sentences, and by today's standards, she'd be over-qualified.

It's a good pick for McCain in some ways, but it also says something very interesting about our chances in November. It's a good pick for McCain because it gives a lot of people (not all of them women) who are angry at Obama over Clinton (and one would presume they are also angry now at Clinton for backing Obama so wholeheartedly) an additional excuse to vote for McCain. No, not many are going to say "Hey, if I can't vote for Clinton, I'll vote for the first woman I can find." What they might be likely to say is "If Obama is going to stab us in the back like this (not saying he did, just saying that's how some are going to see it. Some people don't let things go.), we are going to show him what a mistake he made by crossing us. I was going to vote for a minor party, but that wouldn't hurt Obama enough. Now that McCain has chosen a woman, I can send a clear message to Obama that he can't ignore me, and vote for McCain." No, it makes no sense, given Palin's opposition to everything that could have made a person support Clinton in the first place, but you know there are some who will feel that way.

It's also a good pick over the experience issue. If Obama or Biden attack her as inexperienced, the return comments will be "She's got as much high-level experience as Obama, and she's been an executive, so her experience is more relevant." Yes, we can argue that Obama has a law degree and was a local politician in a district with probably as many people as Palin has seen in her entire life, but that will sound elitist to some. And Obama and Biden have to avoid seeming sexist in attacking her, or they will anger more of those who think Obama ran a sexist campaign. It's a decent little trap that McCain has set, in other words.

But the bigger picture is this: McCain's internal polling must show that he's a goner. Otherwise he'd have picked someone who strengthened his experience and gravitas, and set him up as the mature, sober candidate, against the "celebrity" he has been trying to turn Obama into. Picking Palin (who I think we are underestimating, but who is still not in the big leagues) shows desperation, and a need to shake things up. McCain's numbers show that he's loosing, that he can't shake Bush, and that his only chance is to do something drastic.

And that's good news for us. Because while Palin is "something drastic," she's also a swing for the bleachers in the bottom of the ninth. And McCain ain't Kirk Gibson.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:32 PM
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10. Quayle didn't beat Bentsen. Bush Sr. beat Dukakis.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:59 PM
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15. You know what I mean.
We had the better VP, everyone knew we had the better VP by a long ways, and Quayle still wound up VP. I just get nervous when I hear Democrats sounding like they think we can't lose. Or when Democrats think that voters will choose the right candidate. Ronald Reagan, two Bushes, and Dan Quayle as VP just proves to me that we should have a war faces on until the final nail is in their coffin, and their is no way for SCOTUS to steal it.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:32 PM
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11. ugh
the reference to baseball reminds me of *. :(
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:01 PM
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16. Sorry.
I should have asked if anyone was eating, first. :(
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:34 PM
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12. I Look Forward to the VP Debates
with great anticipation :)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:35 PM
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13. Me, too. That's why I posted this
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:06 PM
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17. THIS Palin Pic doesn't frighten me


I'm sorry Senator McCain, did you say "celebrity?"
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