Look, I already know two people voting for McCain after today

[dubeskin]

They were swayed by Obama last night. They were going to give him serious thought. They've been Democrats their entire lives, and supported Hillary in the primary. When she dropped out, they were pretty bitter.

Honestly, I think from a logical stand point and looking at how well they may "jive" together, it was a stupid choice for McCain. But I definitely think that it will get more votes than we're all claiming right now.

They were also both women.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. So two?

[MichiganVote]

2. Time will tell. It may early yet for some voters.

[StrongBad]

3. Look, I already know two people voting for Obama after today

There, your anecdotal evidence has been given as much consideration as mine.

[tekisui]

4. They sound stupid. Two very stupid people.

[1corona4u]

32. Yeah, and there are a LOT of stupid people in this country

Just look at the last 8 years. How ANYONE could even consider a repuke is BEYOND my scope of understanding. Folks, we are in BIG trouble if this shitbag duo gets elected. We need to get EVERYONE on board. Youth, elderly, everyone.

WE HAVE TO WIN THIS. HAVE TO.

[ryanmuegge]

5. Well, they're ignorant, childish fucks then.

[Neecy]

6. oh, please

Democrats all their lives, and they're voting for this viciously anti-woman woman?

[ecstatic]

7. what made them democrats? The economy? Civil rights? WHAT?

[OwnedByFerrets]

8. If they are voting for McSame because his vp is

female, they are just fucking stupid.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. I cannot in good faith believe a progressive or even a moderate Dem Hillary supporter

would go for Palin. Tell your friends that if they must vote non-dem, the Greens have TWO women on the ticket and they are not anti-choice either. (And if they say they won't then I think that is the nail in the coffin on the question of how progressive they are.)

It's bad enough they are playing cut off my nose to spite my own face; but in this case they are cutting off the noses of all women. x(

[Left Is Write]

I can't either. I also can't believe that "lifelong" Democrats

are going to jump ship because McCain picked a woman, especially considering how she is the antithesis of Democratic Party beliefs.

[GreenPartyVoter]

36. Yep. Something stinks here.

[billyoc]

10. Hope they like burkas and chastity belts.

[greguganus]

11. That's it. It's over! n/t

[KittyWampus]

12. they were swayed by Obama last night, then swayed by Palin today? LOL!

I call bullshit.

[LSK]

13. ask them why they have been Democrats????

There is NOTHING Democratic in this woman's policies.

[grantcart]

14. give it 72 hours

[ShadesOfGrey]

39. Exactly... wait until they hear her stance on the issues.

She's to the right of Bush. She's a fundie weirdo!

[and-justice-for-all]

15. HRC did not "drop out", she lost...nt

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

34. The off-topic gratuity of this urgent addition earns a well-deserved ignore

[Gabi Hayes]

41. OP: ''When she dropped out, they were pretty bitter.''

read much?

[iconicgnom]

16. They sound like total airheads to me.

[ErinBerin84]

17. wow, sounds like they are easily swayed.

[melody]

18. Oh, we'll lose the idiot vote, no question

But if you honestly think women in any large number are going to vote for this cookie, you don't know
many women.

[Josh]

50. Best line of the day!

Made me laugh out loud. :) Still chuckling from the phrasing. "Oh, we'll lose the idiot vote, no question." Just great. Thanks for that. :)

[eshfemme]

19. Wow, if they were swayed away from Obama after that speech with a measly Palin

then I worry about them. Any critic of Hillary can still admit that Palin does NOT compare well with her and she's basically aiming to get a freebie w/o much acknowledgment of Hillary's own accomplishments.

[RichGirl]

20. Geez!!!

I was an avid Hillary supporter. I was excited at the possibility of having a woman. But, bottom line, the well-being of my family comes first and that is what determines my vote. And the well-being of my country.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can sacrifice their families and this country out of loyalty to Hillary or the need to have a vagina in the white house.

Sadly, there is rampant stupidity in this country.

[still_one]

27. They obviously have no idea where Hillary stood on the issues, because if they did

they wouldn't be making that choice

[still_one]

21. No abortion, even in cases of rape incest, and the life of the mother

healthcare, you are on your own
screw social security
you can count on judges like scalia and thomas, and there will most likely be up to 3 vacancies

and you tell me they were Clinton supporters? Do they even have any idea where Clinton stands on the issues?

[Kdillard]

22. Do they have a clue how anti woman she is and how totally

unqualified she is for the job of vice president?

[Thrill]

23. Democrats never win the idiot vote

[H2O Man]

24. gosh

[Upton]

25. Your pals are selfish idiots

Palin is so anti abortion she doesn't even believe in an exception for rape or incest. Tell them that.

[1corona4u]

26. YEAH SO, Obama picked up FOUR of my friends last night.

AND, they were all women.

[helderheid]

28. Outlaw abortion in ALL circumstances.

Palin wants to do so.

[ellie]

29. What woman in her right

mind would vote for someone who is going to force them to carry their rapist's baby? The key word being force. She is a disgusting pig and McSame has lost his fucking mind.

[kennetha]

46. That would be working class Catholic women

who are economic populists, often, but socially conservative. They swing back and forth between us and the Repugnants. They voted for Hillary in places like Pennsylvania and Ohio and helped her carry those states. McCain isn't counting on this pick to help him pick off progressive, socially liberal, prochoice women.

Do you know that while John Kerry carried single woman by a large margin in 2004, King George Bush II carried married women by a largish margin and married with children by an even larger margin. It's these women that McCain is going for. And he doesn't have to move huge majorities of these woman from our side to his. Probably shifting the numbers by, say, 10% would pay big dividends for him.

[spanone]

30. if any person is that stupid....let them go...this lady is absolutely pro life for all occasions

even for saving the life of the mother......fuck her and anyone who would supposedly vote democrat otherwise....i don't buy it.

[Motown_Johnny]

31. We must hope that they will change their minds once they are exposed to Palin's beliefs

[PermanentRevolution]

33. I suspect the net gain will be negligible

Some may swing to McCain because of this, some may swing to Obama, but overall, I don't think it drastically affects the voter dynamics. It's still all gonna be about higher turnout.

[Ichingcarpenter]

35. My Goodness....... I'm scared and concerned now...

[WeDidIt]

37. mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them

[A-Schwarzenegger]

38. That's the most beautiful short story I've ever heard.

[WinkyDink]

40. "They were also both women." And now they are....?

[stillcool]

42. ah..two more low information voters..

that don't give a shit about this country or the American people. Good for them!!

[Zenmaster]

43. No they aren't women. They're dumbshits

[renie408]

44. That might last until they find out things like...Palin is rabidly anti abortion and pro drilling in

ANWAR. No REAL Democrat will vote for McCain because of this woman.

[Orangepeel]

45. They're bullshitting you. They would never have voted for Obama.

And, if they were, then all we have to do is have the most yard signs outside of their polling places on voting day. They seem to be easily swayed by recent information.

Excuse me for being flippant, but there's nothing else to do. The Obama campaign shouldn't spend time and energy trying to persuade people like that. It's a waste of good time and energy.

[mokawanis]

47. exactly

anyone who flips their vote on such a small mount of info is an idiotic voter.

[BlueIdaho]

48. Women candidates are not interchangeable.

Palin is the exact opposite of Hillary Clinton - Radically anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-labor, pro-creation science and the list goes on and on.

If the only criteria you are looking at is a lack of a Y chromosome you are not to be taken seriously.

[kennetha]

51. Yeah but Hillary won a fair number of votes

in rural Appalachia where lots of people -- men and women -- hold at least some of those stands. They didn't vote for her on the basis of those social issues that you name. They voted for her because of her perceived economic populism. Same with many catholic working class whites.

For SOME of those constituencies being anti-abortion or at least not strongly prochoice is a plus. Not all voters who lean in favor of abortion are single issues voters. That's why Catholics form a large portion of the swing voters from election to election.

[Number23]

49. You are absurdly correct

But I definitely think that it will get more votes than we're all claiming right now.

Anyone who thinks McCain picking Palin was anything other than sheer brilliance is either fooling themself or a fool. This is a pro-life, pro-gun, conservative Alpha Female of the highest order. And the fact that she's cute as a button damn sure doesn't hurt.

All of those conservatives who were going to hold their stomachs and/or noses and vote for McCain in November will be running to the polls now. This quote from Free Republic sums up the sentiment nicely:

"I never thought I’d be saying this for a McCain campaign... but get your wallets out people. It’s as simple as that. This choice was made to put you on the bus. We are way past a token nod to the conservatives, he just jumped in with both feet." from - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2070563/posts

The good thing is that Palin's glaring lack of experience will take much of the luster off of the "Is Obama experienced enough?" crowd. And I have no doubt that the Obama camp already has a detailed list of points to go after with Palin. But to deny that McCain's choice was anything other than a rare stroke of genius from a foolish, floundering campaign is just plain dishonest.

[Coexist]

52. two republican women I work with were furious! at McCain for this

I doubt they will be voting at all now.

[mitchum]

53. Apparently, you know some stupid women

[washingdem]

54. Can you please tell your friends that she said Hillary was "whining" in the primaries? Cause she did

[flpoljunkie]

55. Hillary needs to say more than her initial ambiguous statement.

[MadrasT]

56. A real Democrat would never vote for McCain.

End of story.

That being said, the quantity of people who may have a voter registration card that says Democrat and will now vote for McCain because of Palin remains may be difficult to get a handle on.

My head wants to tell me it can't be very many. But my gut tells me there are also whole bunch of shallow, low-information type people out there.

[Lost-in-FL]

57. Cause they don't know her.

I know of at least two Republicans at work voting for Obama.