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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:42 PM
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I am seriously DEPRESSED
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:43 PM by TheCoxwain
Obama makes the most profound speech made by any politician in the past 60 years ... and the news cycle is dominated by a VP choice pick ..


My stomach is churning and I Physically feel sick.


Someone pours his heart and soul to raise the sheer quality of the debate .. and the other side turns it into ...." Hey Look Me ... and my pretty VP"

NYTIMES/CNN front pages are full of the VP news. Not one serious analysis of the policy implications.


THIS IS AN INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE ....... WHAT THE FUCK DOES THE MEDIA WANT? .... DUMB US DOWN TO THE POINT THAT WE ALL BECOME SHEEP AND MULE WHO CAN BE GOADED INTO A DIRECTION THEIR OWNERS WANT US TO GO !!!

This is an unspeakable tragedy unfolding in front of our eyes.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:43 PM
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1. That's politics. But don't worry, this weekend will be dedicated to Gustav. nt
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
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7. Yeah .. and ... isn't that right?
I mean ... that's about life and death.

This election is - in a way, about life and death too, of course.

But it'll still be there after Gustav.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:46 PM
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11. I guess it's right...
Though covering Gustav is going to do little to prevent it. Though covering stories like Darfur potentially could. But that's our media! :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:44 PM
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2. Oh brother
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:44 PM
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3. Not only does the media want that.
It's what the ownership society masters have been paying for a decade and more now.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:44 PM
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4. I just felt the same way.. Its depressing how crazy this is. Its such a stunt.. to try
and steal away from our moment. McCain is a jealous old man.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:44 PM
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5. Umm, I actually think the Veep story is bigger news than Obama's speech
I just wish they would focus more on the Obama story because its better for us.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
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6. Turn off your TV and go take a walk
Seriously, sometimes people take television way too, uh, seriously.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
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8. Lie
You're not depressed.

You're transparent.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
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9. 38 million people watched the speech
Honestly, they cable networks have been talking as much about Gustav as they have Palin over the last couple hours.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:51 PM
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23. Bingo
it was seen
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:00 PM
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31. Ditto that Bingo
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
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10. No, actually that's the GOP gearing up for war......
A good many of us knew it was coming.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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12. keep your eyes on the prize
think of the day in January 2003, only five months from now when the Tyrant Bush leaves office, Obama is sworn in and the renewal and rebuilding begin.
And one can only hope, the criminals who brought us to this dark place are brought to justice.

there's a lotta work ahead but it'll be worth it and the goal today is more clearly attainable than anytime in the past eight years.
Me, I'm feeling almost giddy.

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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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13. Exactly as they planned it.
The repukes are a lot of things, but politically stupid is (for the MOST part) not one of them.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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14. We all expected this exact situation to occur in the media. Don't worry, though.
The speech will not be forgotten by those who saw it and it was covered very nicely by many major papers.

And then, too, there are the debates, where we should clean up handily as long as Obama and Biden are careful not to give the media anything to spin. (Sighing/checking watch etc)
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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15. that is why we have to get out and vote and let our collective voices be heard
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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16. You are correct. I personally believe it is too late to put the genie back in the bottle. We now
live in a world controlled by big business. They dumb it down and spoonfeed it to the hungry public. (see OJ trial, Jonbenet, missing blonde in Aruba etc. etc. etc.) Once they got control of the media, game over. If they ever get the net, well think about it. Downright scary.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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17. I still see lots of news both ways.
Plus remember, we just had 4 big days of all Dems all the time and McCain made his choice on a Friday when people don't really give a shit. Biden didn't get Obama a big lift over the weekend either, but these last four days were great. Next week, they'll have to follow a great four days, with a party bereft of talent, a tired hack as a candidate and all they'll have is hate and fear. Plus, Gustav will be in the news. We can take a few headlines on a Friday when millions of people watched The Big O do his thing last night. People don;t need a newscycle to interpret what they saw with their own eyes and heard with their own ears last night.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:48 PM
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18. Snap out of it and send this to EVERYONE on your email list:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:48 PM
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19. Cheer up.
McLame made a big mistake today. And all we missed about the DNC coverage was the part where the corporate-owned pundits spend 3 days telling a gullible public what to think about Obama's speech.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:49 PM
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20. I am not at all surprised - most people's microsecond attention span and the 24 hr MSM
cycle is quite a lot to feed.

Don't worry - the Historic moment of last night will live on once the dust settles, and McCain/Palin will be an asterisk in history once election day comes and goes and Obama/Biden lead the country for the next 8 years!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:50 PM
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21. This selection will not help McCain!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:51 PM
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22. Well, look at it this way maybe......
.... all McCain had left, was doin something as bizarre and desperate as this.


It's kind of like a child who cannot compete with the other one who just showed how outstanding they were- he has to resort to this kind of stunt, to get the attention he so desperately craves.


He is a bit like Cain, to Obama's Abel. He cannot stand being ourside the spotlight.


Even if he's seen as the sad loser he really is.


:hug:
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:59 PM
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30. Thanks so much
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:59 PM by TheCoxwain
I feel there are smart people in the world with the right intentions.

But why does the Media not live up to its responsibility? why do they act like Insecure Juveniles? They all chase ratings - I get it.

But even during a profound moment like this -- there is no stepping back and trying to figure out "What just happened"


It is like a proverb my college dorm mate used to refer to ..."CASTING PEARLS BEFORE SWINES" .. Not of much use ...

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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:52 PM
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24. ...
:hug:


Everything will be OK.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:53 PM
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25. The good news it that this isnt positive news for McCain.
And many people watched the speech live last night, so no need to have every talking head analyze it.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:54 PM
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26. Well then... lets change the subject !
I thought last night was fantastic !!!!!
An extraordinary event that will live on in our hearts
and memories as long as we live. And I believe
future generations will look back and see
this was the moment when WE said "Enough"
and then together, we changed the world.
YES WE CAN !!!!!
YES WE WILL !!!!!
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:55 PM
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27. it's the way the game is played. You must be young
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:58 PM by Fluffdaddy
No matter who the VP was it would changed the news cycle. one upmanship, that the way the game is played
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:57 PM
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28. Why do you think McLame did this?
News cycles are a fickle thing.

The sensationalism -- and that's what it is -- will wear off. Something else will catch their fancy and the herd will move on.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:58 PM
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29. DEAL.
That's how this game is played.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:06 PM
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32. It's way past time that the people break the chains of the corporate MSM
It's way past time for people to wake up and realize that the corporate MSM will do what's in the interest of the corporate owners, and will only do what's in the interest of "the people" or "the country" if there's an advantage in it.

So long as the majority of people allow themselves to be trained and conditioned to react on cue to the daily headlines of the MSM, to the daily "pundits" the MSM promotes - whether with outrage or not - that will be as long as the corporate MSM calls all the shots. Because that will be as long as the corporate MSM has complete control of the political narrative -- and complete control over the minds of the people.

Nobody expects a dog to meow like a cat. The idea is nonsense. So why do people insist on expecting the corporate MSM to act any differently in future than they have in the past? It isn't just the Iraq war that the corporate MSM trained and conditioned the people to support, to cheer for and feel elated about. The corporate MSM has trained and conditioned the people to nearly 100% of the political narrative in "the west", and to be oblivious to and be frightened of every other idea. The corporate MSM has taken advantage of the fear and laziness of people, who don't just allow others to do their thinking for them, but *want* others to do their thinking for them - because that way it feels both easiest and safest. To echo the narrative of the corporate media, taking the same shallow opinions pro or con the totally artificial issues of the MSM narrative, is to live in an ever changing but secure little bubble. Outrage over the issue of the day changes to outrage over the issue of the next day, the earlier day all but forgotten, and by the time the new outrage of week 2 gets the slavish MSM addict going, the outrages of week 1 are totally forgotten. "nobody's interested in yesterday's news." Same with the excitement of week 1, passing over to the excitement of week 2, last week's excitement totally forgotten. How can this work? Because MSM addicts don't think for themselves. They don't express their own opinions, they express the various opinions of paid-for "pundits", and the battery of MSM political hucksters.

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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:13 PM
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33. I'll be interested to see who gets the lead story on the news
I still think it's gotta be Obama. What kills me is that the journalists THEMSELVES were saying "We just heard the best political speech ever last night and here we are talking about Sarah Palin. Oh well." Do they not have any choice, exercise any judgment at all ...no, that was a dumb question, I guess, as I have seen the answer played out sickeningly for many years.
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:16 PM
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34. PERK UP!!!!
This is probably even better. 38 million viewers (and not couting CSPAN or PBS) got to watch that speech last night. It was MAGNIFICENT and any fool with a brain could see that. It gets to stand unscathed and in all of its glory. No monday morning quarterback critique by the idiots at Fox.


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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:23 PM
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35. Are you surprised?
Seems to me to be pretty predictable behavior from the pundits. Don't sweat it, the battle continues.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:27 PM
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36. 38 million Americans watched last night! Only political junkies have watched today's coverage...
There is NOTHING to be depressed right now. Obama rawked the house yesterday. Word of mouth will take care of the rest. Next week, after the newness wears off, the Palin pick will look very different.

I can't wait to compare Biden's speech with hers!
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