What will you do if Bush is re-elected?

[leftyandproud]

[freetobegay]

1. Other

Continue to fight!

[Javaman]

34. Democratic Liberation Front...

DLF!! Lives forever!!! That's of course we are once again treated like a 3rd world country with fixed elections.

[ronnykmarshall]

47. Daaaammmmmmn right!

[noahmijo]

2. I REFUSE to leave

I will fight these bastards to the bitter end. Americans don't run when their country is being hijacked. We take a stand and take it back.

[Placebo]

3. DAMN STRAIGHT!

The fight doesn't end here, whether we win or lose this Presidential election.

[Seabiscuit]

38. You took the words right out of my mouth:

DAMNED STRAIGHT!

[VOX]

19. Freakin'-aye, noahmijo! We take this fight into the streets, if necessary.

We do not let * off the hook for one goddamn thing -- no right-wing judges, no goodies for his corporate buddies, no more war -- he will have to answer for everything. There will be a **lot** of people hitting the streets.

Canada's too cold, New Zealand's too far -- this is our HOME, damn it. No one tells us to run.

No one. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[blondeatlast]

26. I'll be right beside you. They can't take my country away.

Lefties Love America!

[Claire Beth]

54. nuff said!

:yourock:

[Inland]

4. Gut it out with my fellow Americans, even the idiots that voted for him

[Minimus]

5. Watch in dismay

as our country continues to falter, and say I told you so to anyone who voted for him. Yet I will still try to do my part in my little corner of the world to make things better.

[Norquist Nemesis]

51. Welcome to DU, cliberty!

:hi: Glad to have you aboard! :toast:

[Comicstripper]

56. Welcome

Keep fighting the good fight.

[noahmijo]

6. If anything THEY are the ones that should be packing their bags

Sooner or later the neo con movement will be destroyed it's already slowly happening. Americans aren't willing to continue having to deal with a right wing fundie run America, it's not in our nature to tolerate these people if you can call them that.

[Seabiscuit]

40. No, you can't call them that (people):

You can call them Chimp, Shrub, KKK Karl, freepazoids, whatever. But you cannot even compare them to "people", much less call them "people.
:)

[Pallas180]

7. I hear there are 1 million Americans living in Mexico already

ai yi yi, chihuahua, this lil yappy doggy follows me wher'er I go.

[canuckybee]

8. don't slam me for this

but it is one of the reasons I will remain just American resident. And when the time comes that I could apply for citizenship, I will opt to keep my Canadian citizenship. I can easily foresee a day when I might want to leave. Never thought I would say that, but it is true.

[UdoKier]

9. I will make preparations to leave.

It will be the last straw for me.

I'm fed up with it all.

If I can't get into Vancouver, BC, We'll go back to Japan. My wife & Kids are Japanese citizens, I can do my job for the same money there, but the cost of living is lower (Yes, it really is, outside Tokyo and Osaka) There is national healthcare, and it's not a surveillance state.

I don't want to, but if my country picks Bush after his trail of failures and atrocities, it doesn't want the likes of me.

[bigtree]

10. blame the lefties for their grousing pessimism

and continue to fight.

just kidding about the lefties. :D

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. Stay and fight nt

[mumon]

12. Bush wasn't elected in the first place

He was selected.

This is his first *election.*

[depakid]

13. I'm out- no question about it

That's one reason I went back to grad school- to acquire credentials and skills that will be in demand abroad.

[UTUSN]

14. Here's a Scary Look at What It Would Be Like

*******QUOTE*******
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/25/bush_second_term/index.html
And you thought his first term was a nightmare
What Bush has planned for America if he wins.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Charles Tiefer

Aug. 25, 2004 | .... Under Bush's slogan of an "ownership society," the Republicans intend a long-term effort, using changes in Medicare, Social Security and taxes to pit better-off and worse-off Democrats against each other, offering all-but-irresistible incentives for some to desert the others -- and any progressive national coalition. .... . A second-term Bush agenda will constantly impale Democrats on the dilemma of abandoning their poorer, sicker, older and minority groups, or seeing their better-off, healthier and younger members lured off to the other party. If it sounds like a political nightmare for the Democrats, that's because that's what it is planned to be. ....

********UNQUOTE*******

[leftyandproud]

23. oh shit..

yep...thats gonna happen. He will use his budget deficit as an excuse to kill any hope for socialist/progressive policies in the future.

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

15. My husband is a Brit

and we are bailing out of here and going to England. He can't accept this country as a home if Bush is elected (I refuse to say "re") and I don't blame him.

We have already started making plans just in case.

[eleny]

16. I'd rather fight than switch

[mvd]

17. A retreat

And watch what is going on here. If Bush gets a lot of flak, I'll come back down and fight. If the people continue to be fooled, I'll stay in my new country (probably Canada.)

[devinsgram]

18. I refuse to even let that be an option.

[VOX]

20. There you go!!!

:thumbsup: :toast:

[The Hair in my Nose]

21. I'll stay...

... and work on the Kucinich in 2008 campaign. A couple more expansionist wars (likely entailing a draft) and folks will give peace a chance.

[Raenelle]

22. Nihilism, cynicism, rejection of worldly illusions--I haven't decided yet.

[spanone]

24. HELL NO, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blondeatlast]

25. I'll stay and fight back with everything I have.

I'm a 40-something soccer mom type with a 7 year old.

This is MY country, not theirs. And it's 200 million other people's not unlike me.

[imax2268]

27. fight'em...

whatever it takes...I'm staying to fight for this country...get it away from the crooks...

[Name removed]

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[leftyandproud]

29. don't speak that way about your fellow DU'ers..

A lot of them just can't take it...16 of the last 24 years have been GOP dominated...another Bush term will make it 20 years of GOP control. At this point, if he wins, recovering anything will be hopeless.

[AmerDem]

30. you have a guilty conscience?

I never heard any mention of DUer's

LOL,the PC bus continues to roll!:bounce: :kick:

[AmerDem]

32. __

[Zhade]

37. You back-handed several on the thread who mentioned leaving.

Just because you didn't mention their (easy to read on the thread) names, doesn't mean you didn't insult them.

[AmerDem]

44. for you , I take that as a yes!

no sense in me repeating my opinion because the whining by the original poster got deleted!


God Bless America!

[Arkana]

31. I will do nothing of the sort

I'll stay and fight the good fight. Shrub and his cronies aren't gonna scare me out of my own country.

[Name removed]

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[LibertyorDeath]

35. If Idiot Son is RE-SELECTED Hang on cause it's gonna be a WILD RIDE

[Cha]

36. I say.."What is bush going to

do when he comes in second?"

[Seabiscuit]

42. I'll tell you what he CAN do...

He can go Cheney himself.

[eridani]

39. Please think of Shirin Ebadi

You know--the feminist human rights lawyer in Iran who got a Nobel Peace Prize. Iran is a place where girls are still horribly killed for being 'impure,' and it is a totally rotten place to be a feminist human rights lawyer. Yet she is not leaving, because it is her place. We aren't even close to being that badly off, so quit being such wussies.

[Seabiscuit]

41. I'll even join an armed revolution if necessary

and pick up a gun for the first time in my life. It's the Constitutional thing to do. Festering Fascism cannot allowed to rule America.

[louis c]

43. I will be in the same position as my grandfather was

in 1929.

He too supported a Catholic in 1928. Although his family had to suffer during that period, he had the pleasure of telling all his asshole friends that he was right.

You see, he voted for Al Smith, and they supported Herbert Hoover.

My father had that pleasure in 1973, during the Nixon-Agnew trials. Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts.

Although it will be small consolation to face that fact, at least I want to be here to rub their faces in the shit for the years ahead.

[The Straight Story]

45. Stay and make money off it :)

Bush and crew will need someone watching them and recording things, and it can be put into book form, internet pages, mass mailings, etc. I was not geared up last time around, but have learned a lot since then.

After Day 1, monitor and keep any and all information and analyze it to the hilt. From a data base of information (and my server for that is a quad sun with 180 gigs of space and 2 gig ram) to recording all I can on how the news covers and reports. Every press release, every statement, every order, and so on will be recorded and analyzed.

Before the next election I will publish my research, and use the money to get a real person in office. And to be honest, I will do the same with Kerry as well - so that next election I will have the undistorted truth to show those sick freaks when they start pulling crap.

Run? Move? Hell no. Make money off it and use it to unseat the freaks. Many gave their lives for the America we know and love, and I will be damned if I turn and run. The least I could do is dig in and fight the local battles, keep people informed, and stay on top of things.

My new massive server setup will be ready by Jan. I am converting a 4' standard 19" rack into a retro system - ie, I am putting a large set of faceplates on it with dip swithes, dials, etc, and will mount all my computers and drives inside (about 10 computers running solaris, aix, linux, windows, xandros, and an old trs-80 for fun).My core data base server will use about 80gig, and I will add more to that quickly (about 100 gig for oracle and 100 gig for mssql, all scsi drives).

It's purposes will be politics, number theory, electronics, programming and some other hobbies I have. We can take what we have learned over the last few years and apply it. What do we wish we had done that we did not? For me it has been not grabbing and analyzing data sooner, something which I can change.

If Kerry gets in and starts going off on a tangent and obeying the elitists, we can call him on it as well. It is our job to watch the people we hire, even if we like them. One of our big assets is taking raw information and boiling that down to a simple to use and understand fact sheet for people to see and use.

Look at all the research people have done on BBV, 9/11, bushisms, and so forth. Imagine if we started on day one and had a plan and kept to it. Running is not an option, it is admitting defeat and giving the person we want in office one less vote next go around. Start planning now for a bush win, if he loses then use those plans to keep data/timelines/quotes/etc on all our other elected folks so we can continue to move things along in the right direction (from congress to courts, from the faa to the cia, from the parks depts to the hhs there is a massive amount of data out there).

go right now to http://www.google.com/unclesam
type some things in. Search by PDF file type some too. So much data there it is unreal (that search site uses government sites in it's search, from military to whitehouse and lots of places in between). Let's hold our people accountable - all of them.

Give up? Hell no. I am fighting until I live up to the name that so many died to defend, the label we call American. They can steal votes, and elections now, but there is no way in hell they will get me to leave while I still have a way to fight and get the message out.

We owe it to our kids, to the poor, to those down trodden to use our skills and abilities to keep those running things under a microscope and in the news (even if we have to make our own news sites).

Surrender and move my ass. I will when they pull my cold dead fingers from my keyboard. Bring it on. My/our intellect versus bush/pubbies. We may lose a battle, we might get upset, but we don't ever give up or let up. If Christians can rise from an obscure sect in Israel to a world religion while facing down the roman empire, then there is no reason we cannot rise up in the face of our foes and get our message heard and convert people to a better way of life here in the US.

You always lose when you give up the fight after a loss or two.

One thing we do need is a system of our own checks and balances. We don't want to become like the enemy and put out BS attacks. Keep em honest, real, and endorse those that have facts and not speculation behind them. Don't give them an inch or an centimeter or room to worm out of the things we will bring to light. If you have a wild conspiracy theory, question it yourself from all angles and analyze it to death. Seek truth and not mud, as truth will stand when the rains come down from the other side.

If bush wins, it is showtime for us. From the ashes of a loss a new leader may well emerge who, with our abilities, can turn the dark into light for the many needing hope. Defeat sucks, but it is a lesson from which we can learn and sharpen the swords of battle. Fear will cause the weak to hide and look for a safer place, but the strong will work hard to erase that fear and take away that which causes it completely.

We can win. We may not now (though i think we will). Until you are dead though you still have battle left within you, pick up the flag and raise it high so that those who oppress you will see that you carry on. Across the land the voices will raise, the people will be heard, and they will know that we the people are not defeated, that we cannot be trampled on because we will always rise from that field and keep marching on.

Kerry is but a man who hopes to help progress our ideals on, but even without him we can march those ideas across the fields to battle. We will only lose when we decide to give up.

[SayitAintSo]

46. Cry ....

:cry:

[leftyandproud]

48. and leave, right? ;)

[SayitAintSo]

57. No ...

What's your problem....

[noonwitch]

49. Work for Hillary or Edwards in 2008

What else can one do?

[marlakay]

50. Ask Michael Moore if I can travel with him!!

He would be pissed and I would want to be right there with him!!

[JohnKleeb]

52. Why would I fucking leave

This is my fucking country as much as it is anyone's. This is the land of fucking Roosevelt, Kennedy, Lincoln, etc, I am not gonna let them take over.

[AspenRose]

53. O Canada....(?)

Got friends and family there...who knows?

[Entente]

55. Work on getting Bush impeached

It will be my only choice left. I might leave the country til I can stomach being surrounded by Bush's voters. Yuck!!!

[Buck Rabbit]

58. Lease my house, spend a 3 year vacation in ...........

Margarita-ville and come back hungover but ready for a good fight in 2008. Hopefully, I'll be sober enough in 2006 to remember to send in my Oregon vote by mail ballots.

[ezekiel333]

59. Support and Defend

the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC!

[murray hill farm]

60. Will wonder then...

Where are all those whacko survival militants that hate the govt...and when will they start the overtrow this one before it is too late for the world....at least they are..or were..organized to do just that thing.

[ezekiel333]

61. They work for W now

His brand of madness is very appealing to the fringe.