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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:43 PM
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Enough Of The "Blame Hillary" Posts already...
Look, we all knew this was going to happen. All of us knew it.

There is nothing that can be accomplished now for blaming Hillary for the tactics and words she chose to use.

All this Hillary bashing is just going to encourage more of her supporters to either not turn out at all, or worse... vote for McLame out of sheer bitterness.

Yes, I used the "b" word, because that is what it is.

So just leaver her and them alone. Enough is enough. We have more important things to focus on... Like getting our nominee elected.

Obama/Biden 08!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:45 PM
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1. what is HRC being blamed for?
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:47 PM
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2. Turn on the TV...
...or just read some threads in here. Don't really think I need to spell it out for you. Do I?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 04:48 PM
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3. her loyalist are making a scene in front of fox news
she should be blamed.

(I don't have tv, I saw a thread here that said pumas were doing their thing).
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:16 PM
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5. PUMAS are NOT "her loyalists" by any means.
Haven't you read about the background of these people? They identify themselves as independents, or (at best) people who sometimes have voted Democratic. These are people who MAY have voted in the Democratic primary (since there was no contest in the Republican) -- but they are sticking around now only to disrupt the Democratic party. And too many gullible Democrats are being taken in by them.

Remember when Limbaugh was urging his supporters to wreck havoc in the Democratic primaries? Many of them are still around, and they're called PUMAS.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:19 PM
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7. The kittyculters stopped being Hillary loyalists when Hillary endorsed Obama.
But the words and actions of OTHER shit-for-brains DLC'ers (Rendell/Carville/Wolfson/Begala/etc) definitely aren't discouraging them.

So calling them DLC loyalists would be accurate enough.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:13 PM
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4. And she is RIGHT that if she had won,
there would be plenty of disenchanted Obama supporters as well, and a breach that would need to be healed. Also, the Rethugs would be using Obama's statements against her in the general campaign.

That's just the way it works in any election.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:42 PM
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9. What statements would those have been?
I don't remember him praising McCain and bashing Hillary.

This wasn't a "blame Obama" thread, so don't think for one minute you get to go "there" without a challenge.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:46 PM
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11. He said she was likeable enough
and that periodically when she was feeling down, she would say things that she didn't mean. The nerve of that man.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:29 PM
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13. For example, they pretended that Clinton had insulted Martin Luther King
Edited on Mon Aug-25-08 09:31 PM by pnwmom
when Clinton talked about how politicians had helped to secure civil rights for minority Americans.

And they accused Hillary of "playing the gender card" when she talked about meeting women who were excited about having the first woman President.

If Hillary were the nominee instead of Barack, McCain would be reaching out to African Americans, saying they had been disrespected by the Democrats. And McCain would be accusing Hillary of playing the gender card.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:38 PM
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14. Absolutely.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:39 PM
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15. And???
So... When did he say the McCain would make a better president than her?

yeah... that's what I thought.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:45 PM
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16. Hillary did not say that McCain would make a better president, but Obama did say that Hillary was
Edited on Mon Aug-25-08 09:47 PM by StevieM
the status quo, Bush/Cheney lite, the "master of the broken system," and fundamentally incapable of bringing change to Washington.

Steve
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:05 PM
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18. Way to practice what you preach in your OP!
*golf clap*
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:23 PM
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19. I found that puzzling, too. n/t
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tbayum Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:17 PM
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6. 100% agree
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:54 PM
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20. Fuck You 100%. N/T
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:19 PM
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8. These people are not and never were HRC supporters or Democrats
for that matter. This has every last indication of being a well organized Repig dirty trick orchestrated by KKKarl or one of his operatives. That is all
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:43 PM
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10. Naw, we need one more. n/t
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 05:47 PM
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12. I blame Canada personally.
;)
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 09:50 PM
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17. There is nothing to blame her for--her "tactics and words" were not dishonorable and I am proud
to be associated with Hillary's campaign. Supporting her candidacy, and volunteering for her, was one of the greatest honors of my life.

Oh, and she convinced me to vote for Obama, for whatever its worth.

Steve
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