The media's going to be SHOCKED when Bill and Hillary Clinton go up on stage...

[Bicoastal]

...and give the kindest, warmest, most gracious and complimentary speeches in convention history to the presumptive nominee.

But at least they've made sure people around the country will be watching...:)

[Egnever]

1. I expect you are right

I am praying you are in fact.

[jakem]

2. i hope you are right.

in feeling, as well as word.

[mkultra]

3. i look forward to it

Its my greatest hope that they bring their very best to support this candidate. They have done so much for us in the past it would be a shame for them to alienate themselves over a bitter primary.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Next thing you know, there will be gambling in this establishment

[WeDidIt]

5. Damend straight

Obama AND Hiollary are playing the media with as much effectiveness as Obama played them over his Veep pick.

[countingbluecars]

6. I sure hope so. n/t

[BOSSHOG]

7. No doubt about it!!!

Obama will be the second best speaker at the convention.

[movonne]

26. I think Kennedy will be right on top too...

[BOSSHOG]

32. I think Senator Kennedy will bring down the roof tonight

[Lucinda]

8. They will either use it to point out how "badly the've been treated" or make up "hidden meaning"

designed to magically signal the Clinton armies.
Either of which is intended to sow discord in the party. And it will work with boards like this.

[LisaM]

30. Or people will be quick to find hidden meaning where there isn't any. n/t

[Lucinda]

33. Yup.

[pecwae]

47. Are code words involved? nt

[Alter Ego]

9. I hope to god you're right

because I want to see Wolf Blitzer piss himself live on air when he discovers that Hillary Clinton has STOLEN HIS FUCKING MILKSHAKE AND DRANK IT.

[gateley]

10. It'll be great -- they're both such inspirational speakers! nt

[olkaz]

11. I think it's a sad state of affairs when that sort of statement could garner attention.

But the Clintons have done little to quelch this sort of thinking. Oh well.

[salonghorn70]

12. Media Won't Be Surprised.

The Media knows that Senator Clinton and President Clinton will do that. It is the Clinton haters on DU and the Obama haters on DU who will be surprised. Hopefully, the hate directed against Hillary and Bill will go away after those speeches. Hopefully, any hate directed against Obama by some Clinton supporters will go away after those speeches.

[leftynyc]

16. Anyone who is still bashing Hillary

ain't nothing but a puke troll. I will stand by that statement until the election.

[polichick]

13. Kind of a big leap from not even being able to say that Obama is ready for the job.

[carlotta]

14. ahem

Biden said that.

[polichick]

17. I'm not talking about during the primaries - but Bill's recent comments.

[ronnykmarshall]

48. carlotta ... don't even bother

That one will bash the Clinton's regardless. It's like Torrettes Syndrome.

[leftynyc]

15. Are you speaking about Sen Biden?

No? Silly me.

[polichick]

18. Biden wasn't selfish enough to say such a thing about our nominee...

Which is why he could be considered for veep.

[leftynyc]

24. Really????

What about these choice quotes - right out of a mccains new ad

BIDEN says " Obama NOT ready to serve as president, not a job for ON THE JOB TRAINING", but..."would be HONORED to run WITH John McCAIN"

http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=758411

Honestly, this was all over the place this weekend? Where have you been?

[polichick]

27. Hate to burst your bubble, but Obama wasn't our nominee then.

[leftynyc]

28. Oh - it's just the timing

I'm sure the people watching those mccain ads are really concerned about the "when" it was said. Keep up the Clinton hate, sorry to interrupt.

[polichick]

29. You must be new to elections - once the nominee is chosen, Dems get behind him...

...which is what Biden did ~ and the Clintons did NOT.

[leftynyc]

34. Where has Hillary Clinton

not been behind the nominee? Please provide a link where she is quoted (don't bother me with surrogates or unnamed sources). And, of course, you realize he's not actually the nominee until the roll call vote, aren't you. He's the presumptive nominee - I suspect you're the one who is new to elections to get that wrong.

[optimisticin08]

19. That doesnt matter to me

What matters to me is what they do after the convention and i doubt it will be more than token support.

[blondeatlast]

20. Once again, the m$m is being humiliated--and they are doing it to themselves. nt

[endthewar]

21. MSM is setting the bar very low for them

[DevonRex]

22. They're gonna be devastated, heh heh. They want division so

they can boost ratings.

Well, just too damn bad. :)

[Booster]

23. It would be in their best interests to do this. If they do anything

else, they can kiss their respective popularities goodbye. Especially Bill. He's beginning to even grate on the Dems very last nerve and that can't help either one of them in the future.

[Peregrine Took]

25. I agree - they will want to smooth all ruffled feathers and make nice-nice

with everyone. Its the sensible and practical thing to do.

[SuperTrouper]

31. Not only that, they need to blast McCain vicious-and-ruthlessly

they need to reject, denounce, and put distance between themselves and McCain. Hillary needs to attack McCain with all her vigor for using her image in his negative ads. The nation needs to see this!

[izzybeans]

35. It will be a huge story.

...one they are trying desperately to contrive (the media that is).

[goclark]

36. Can't wait to see that event take place

I will be happily surprised and thrilled for our Party.

[samsingh]

37. i hope so

[ronnykmarshall]

38. But I'm SURE there will be something WRONG ...

I'm sure all those that screeched in here "I'M NOT GOING TO WATCH THEM" will be watching and checking EVERY move they make. And of course will come in here an throw a shit fit.

[biscotti]

39. I caught a snip of MSNBC a couple of hours ago

and Chuck Todd was talking to Brian Williams who asked him about the riff between O & H.C. He said, he thought it was the product of all the main stream media types all being in the Denver Bubble and that's all each other are talking about. That he doesn't think it actually exists.
Later I tuned in Blomberg and they were running a clip of Hillary looking great and sounding gracious asking her supporters to rally around Obama, that he represents everything her campaign was trying to achieve. She received a huge round of applause. It's amazing that it is not being shown on the channels.
That might prove Todd's theory. They can fill more time babbling about a condition that doesn't really exist.

[otohara]

40. I'm Not So Sure

she still calls Sen. Obama her opponent.

[invictus]

41. Let's hope she doesn't call Obama "my opponent.." n/t

[FatDave]

42. What I'd like to hear Bill say:

"This guy is the real deal, and he's unstoppable. We threw everything we could at him, and we could not take him down. If he can survive two Clinton's campaigning, he can survive any attack the republicans can muster up."

[StevieM]

43. In other words, in order to please you he must validate your preferred narrative of history so that

you can keep on being righteous.

Nothing you just asked of him would win over any voters....it would just make you feel good. I don't agree with your condescending statements about them throwing everything they could at him, or how amazing it is to survive "two Clintons campaigning." In fact, I find they way you identify the Clintons as interchangeable, and an amorphous creature, to be degrading and insulting.

But, of course, that's part of why you say stuff like that. You're not making an honest assessment of what it would take assist Barack's candidacy. You're looking to continue the process of affirming your status as the good guy and the Clintons' status as (at least) the former bad guys, seeking forgiveness and redemption.

That's why Obamites are so upset about the Convention--not because the Clintons are being given anything unusually grand. But because Hillary's place of honor at the Convention contradicts their narrative about a disgraceful campaign that has left its candidate in disrepute and desperately seeking forgiveness. Instead she is being treated like a superstar whose campaign is a cherished part of Democratic Party history.

I can assure you...that statement you just asked for would do NOTHING to win over Clinton voters to Obama's side--it would simply make some Obama voters feel good. And he already has their support. Now he needs to win over more Clinton (and Edwards) voters, and yes, he does have to work to do it--he isn't simply entitled to them, if they are registered Democrats. Every vote must be earned.

For whatever it's worth, Hillary convinced me to vote for Obama.

Steve

[FatDave]

45. Dude, I just thought it would be a good thing to say all around.

No need to fly off the fuckin' handle.

[Zavulon]

44. If it's anything like Hillary's campaign "suspension" speech,

it'll be much more about herself than about Obama.

[ronnykmarshall]

49. Uh ... her suspension speech was also for her supporters

and the people that worked hard on her campaign.

What don't you get the fuck over it?

Thank god the democrats are not reflective of the bitter fucking asshole in here.

[biscotti]

46. Cspan 1 just showed the speech that I saw a snip of earlier.

She was speaking to the New York Delegation. Great speech.
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