Clark on Hardball now!

[laruemtt]

[maddezmom]

1. keep us posted :)

[One Taste]

2. Clark said war in Iraq was

purely political.

[wyldwolf]

3. Kickin' ass already!

Just called Rove out!

[laruemtt]

4. chris m: are you saying bush traded american lives for

electoral votes?

Clark: ultimately it was all passsed through a political prism.

[wyldwolf]

5. Just said Cheney has called a lot of the shots in Bush admin...

...said Cheney is "cagey."

[One Taste]

6. Clark doing a great job

not letting Matthews talk over him.:)

[maddezmom]

8. that is one hard job, too.

[Cannikin]

11. Wow! He did a great job on how he'd go after Osama.

I have to admit, he has impressed me tonight.

[Kahuna]

101. In fact, Clark talked over tweety.

Sweeeeeeet! :D

[Democrats unite]

7. Tweaty is getting pissed because...

He can't put words in Wesley Clarks mouth!

[wyldwolf]

9. Just said Bush let bin Laden escape!

[maddezmom]

13. what was the Tweets response?

[Democrats unite]

17. Commercial break!

eom

[laruemtt]

10. tweety is almost respectful!

for tweety anyway. he's attacking very faintly, for him.

[karlschneider]

12. Holding his own pretty well so far. Tweety tried to get nasty but he's a

dumb turd tonite. ;-)

[scubadude]

14. Face it everybody, Clark ROCKS!

He is our best chance in my opinion to wrest the Presidency away from the Republicans.

Ron

[Jack_Dawson]

18. Clark is IT people

I know we all have our loyalties, but damned if we don't all know in the back of our minds that Rove and Bush would shit a collective brick if General Clark was the nominee.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. I almost fainted!

Tweety was actually NICE? Clark looks great and doing beautifully!

Go Wes! So far so good!

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Tweety's HONORED

to have him on?? He should be! :bounce:

[One Taste]

19. Clark said while he was in Europe during Clinton impeachment

that our allies were seeing an orgy of unproductive behavior (paraphrased). :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. GREAT phrase!

an orgy of unproductive behavior. Classic Clark! He's so eloquent. :)

[Hamlette]

91. better....

orgy of self destructive behavior

[wyldwolf]

20. WHOA! Just pushed the book "Hunting Of The President"

[Clark4VotingRights]

77. He mentioned the Hunting of the President?!

Wow, and Gene Lyons was interviewed on Buzzflash a couple of
months back, since he's an expert on radical right smear tactics,
describing the smears they'd use against General Clark.

Now Scaife is really gonna be infuriated at Clark.
Of course Scaife is chronically infuriated at Dems.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. On Clinton scandal.

He didn't think he should be impeached. Any # of ways that could have been handle. The world was seeing the US in a bad light. NOT a high matter of state.

"Look at what went on." He's talking about Conason's book.."The Hunting of a President" GREAT BOOK!

[laruemtt]

22. said they've been trying to

destroy Clinton since 1989. wants to get beyond this and help america with its problems. can't be the greatest nation if we don't pull together.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. He's not following

Governor Dean's campaign!!!! Hahahahhahahahah! Good one, Wes! :7

[Cannikin]

25. Woo hooo!!!! I'm really impressed...

This is the first time my eyes have strayed from Dean.

I loved the way he would not submit to Chris's attempt to make a laughing stock of him by the 'vast right-wing conspiracy' bait that he dangled. Clark just gave him a look and kept on speaking. He avoided the BS. And dodged the attempt to be dragged into the Dean religion thing. THATS the kind of campaign I want. No mud slung. No BS.

Be afraid Bush. Be very afraid.

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. Clark is never baited by

that crap. He takes the high road every time. He's just amazing! :)

[Jack_Dawson]

32. It's OK to stray from Dean

Many have gone before you...

www.ex-deaniacsforclark.com

[DoveTurnedHawk]

49. Thanks! One Thing Clark Excels at Is Handling the Media and Wingnuts

I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at Clark!

:toast:

DTH

[leftchick]

52. and "handling" the media in 2004 for Democrats is....

CRITICAL!!!!! Go General! :)

[maryallen]

89. Way to go, Wes!

He didn't fall for that ole ploy about the OTHER CANDIDATES'campaign/character/personality/clothes, etc.

All Democratic candidates should use this type of rebuttal:
Refuse to talk about anyone else.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. Tweety told him

he's running a GREAT campaign and HE thinks Clark is the one to beat Dean!! WooHoo!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

28. Shut Up! No Way!

He really said that? Wow, I'm honestly shocked!

Chris Matthews is actually right about something! ;-)

DTH

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. I SWEAR!!!

HE DID! :bounce: Tweety was actually NICE! Holy crap. Something's going on. Tweety actually said...and I quote..."General, I'm HONORED to have you on the show." I kid you not! :7

[oasis]

27. So much for Dean's Gore/ Bradley endorsement. Clark is a one man army

[Killarney]

29. Clinton's penis, Clinton's penis...

Why does everything always have to come down to Clinton's penis?

For God's sake! When will the media get over it? He got a blow job. He lied about it. He is not running for president this year so shut up and get over it! Let this year's candidates talk about themselves rather than Clinton's penis.

Argh. :mad: :argh: :grr:

[Cannikin]

35. A caller railed Rush today telling him to GET OVER his Clinton 'anger'

It was great. He lost it. Wouldnt let her talk, and eventually hung up...

[Jack_Dawson]

38. Really? What did the caller say?

How did he respond? What makes you think he lost it?

[Cannikin]

48. She called and said that Rush was a hipocrite....

Saying he always says that we are the hate filled ones, then she kept giving him examples of his Clinton hang-up. Rush kept interupting her, and when she would try to continue, he would say 'See you people dont listen'. But she continued on, telling him to let go of all of this hate he has for Clinton.."Its always Clintons fault with you! Clinton's done this..and that" And when she started to go into how his whole show is set up that way..he got loud and angry and basicaly said some things so completely opposite of how he treats people on his show, that I've considered subsribing to the site just to be able to hear it again and give it to you more accurately! It was great. The last 15 minutes of the show.

Jack Dawson......interesting name. Surely not taken from the lead character in Titanic?

[Clark Can WIN]

84. I've never been able to tolerate listening to him

long enough. I really admire people that can. "Know thy enemy" and all that stuff but my blood pressure starts to go up and :smoke:........:mad: .............:nuke:.......... I'm screaming at the radio barely missing little old ladies in the crosswalk.

[Jack_Dawson]

99. Why...of course not!

:-)

[Leilani]

31. Wes takes Control

He does not allow anyone to intimidate him, media included.

Clark/Bush debate? Priceless!!!

[Jack_Dawson]

36. I would almost feel sorry for chimpy

in a debate against General Clark.

On second thought...nahhhhhh

[Kayla]

78. I am drooling

to see W debate Clark.

Talk about nothing but blank looks, squirmy mouth gestures; like dueling with an unarmed man!

[PatGund]

100. Wouldn't feel sorry at all

Matter of fact, I think they should place that debate on Pay Per View as the smackdown it would become.

[FrenchieCat]

33. Boy....

I don't think that Clark can do better than this. Hello blind people.....please start to see!

[Cannikin]

37. He was pretty well spoken also...

It will be interesting to see how the media manages to spin the sound bytes. Aside from the whole white water/watergate thing...but that was no biggie

[BootinUp]

39. Clark did very well

Started a little slow, but then got going quickly. Hammered the Rove-Cheney-Bush Triangle and irresponsible foreign policy. Talked about the campaign strategy a little. Then Tweety had to go after the Clinton angle. Talk about a sideshow, lets rehash the impeachment. Just the same I believe most Americans agree with Clark. He said it was not a high state matter, Clinton could have been censured. Any number of ways to handle it. Then Tweety has to ask again! Just wants to hear Clark say it again.

Basically this will help Clark with democrats, let them see he his a genuine liberal. I thought it was a great performance by Clark.

[maddezmom]

40. Thanks fellow DU'ers and Clark supporters

sounds like Wes was on top of his game once again. :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. The man has yet to fail us.

He was excellent and I am still in shock that Tweety was so nice, but THRILLED that he was.

[TacticalPeek]

41. He carved up Cheney and the boy in high style.

Yummy.

Said that Cheney 'put his thumb on the scale' to get Rumsfield as SecDef, then they ganged up on the fortunate son to push neo-conjob. And since the current occupier of the Oval Office has no personal natsec experience or strong beliefs, he was an easy mark for the old men.

As Tweety put it, Cheney has more 'political acumen' than his ward.


I doubt that any reporters will notice that Clark has challenged the integrity of the current Prez/VP intercourse as a threat to our political system. 'Course, I'd love to be proven wrong about the lovely SCLM.

[Kayla]

80. Yeah, and Clark

emphasized how important it is to have a pres w/foreign policy exp. because look how Chimpy doesn't know which group of his advisors he should go with; that has caused big mistakes yada yada. Clark is the man!!!

[HFishbine]

42. Can a Dean guy get a word in around here?

Great job, General.

[BootinUp]

44. Word

Every good attack on Bush should be commended!

[in_cog_ni_to]

45. Thanks, HFishbine!

He WAS great!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

46. Thanks! And Cheers to Dean for His Huerta and Chavez Endorsements!

Those are great voices for La Raza!

:toast:

DTH

[NV1962]

47. Much appreciated!

Thanks - honest.

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

51. Clark did well, and I'm not in the Clark camp by any means

Matthews has seemed to be particularly giddy lately. I think he really LOVES this stuff. Anyway, Clark certainly appealed to the established wing of our party without alienating the more progressives.

[xultar]

73. Thanks for the good word. But we call him General Smackdown! nt

[Clark4VotingRights]

96. General Smackdown, I like that!

General Smackdown is giving the media whores a major smackdown.

[retyred]

79. Thank You

retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[KittyWampus]

86. Holy Carp! HFishbine Compliments The General!

Yowza... must of been good. And I made it a priority to go to the meet up tonight (1.5 hour drive).

[TacticalPeek]

50. Tweety's replaying Clark's Cheney critique for the political discussion.

Heh heh.

:evilgrin:

[TacticalPeek]

53. Now Howard Fineman is saying that Dean's polls show

Clark in second in NH. Sez Dean camp is leaking it now to pre-dampen the surprise.

Nevertheless: WOOOHOOO!

:)

[in_cog_ni_to]

55. Hello!

Here we go! This is going to be SO much FUN!!!! :bounce::bounce:

[Turbineguy]

54. Well, I like to think

I'm something of a judge of horse flesh and I think Laura Ingraham looks better than Annie Coulter!

Sorry, no insult meant to horses! Or those who make glue!

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. LOL!

ANY-THING looks better than Ann Coulter! :evilgrin:

[kentuck]

56. Can a Kerry guy get a word in here?

Great job General! :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. Thanks, Kentuck! n/t

[Cannikin]

59. I missed the discussion after Clarks interview......and a question...

Anything interesting in the discussion?


And also, can someone point me to information on his position on gay-rights is?

[Jerseycoa]

62. Here you go :)

http://www.glbtforclark.org/files/HRCQ_Questionnaire_Final.doc

http://clark04.com/issues/glbt/

http://clark04.com/articles/013/

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. Sure can.

Here's a few links for you.

http://clark04.com/articles/013/

http://clark04.com/issues/glbt/

And here's a link to all the issues.

http://clark04.com/issues/

For the following roundtable discussion following the interview, the BEST thing to come out of that was the fact that the Dean campaign said today that Clark is now in 2nd place in NH polls! WooHoo! :bounce:

[Jerseycoa]

63. Thanks for saying

:hi:

[xultar]

74. Thanks for the good word. I'm glad Clark did well and that you noticed

Yea Hoo

[retyred]

81. Thank You Too!

retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[jpgpenn]

60. Did anyone see the look of Fear in Matthews eyes ...

When Clark mentioned Rove? It looked like he shit himself. These reporter types are in total fear of this Nazi egghead!

[Cannikin]

61. AAAHHHH! I missed the Rove part too!

[jpgpenn]

64. it should air again tonight

if i'm not mistaken.

[in_cog_ni_to]

68. Hardball repeats at 10:00 P.M. Central Time. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

66. They dicussed the

"New" polls that show Dean closest to beating Bush......

Fineman almost laugh when asked about it....

The only guy that seemed to think the polls were BS was....I forgot his name...but he was the only actual Democrat on the panel.....Laura Ingram and Fineman were the other two.

[BootinUp]

67. Yea I think the adrenaline

was rising in ol tweety, he kept asking Clark to repeat himself, just to hear it again...Then he would ask it a different way, and Clark would pass, and tweety sez "I think you just did!" (say that)

It was a riot.

[in_cog_ni_to]

70. I'll watch again tonight.

I was listening and typing...I MISSED that. I'll pay closer attention tonight when it repeats.

[Cocoa]

69. Tweety disputes Clark's point about the impeachment

not when Clark is there, but behind his back, after the interview, with his panel.

The panel, of course, thinks Clark was way off about the impeachment, but then again, they were PART of it.

O'Donnel was way off about Clark supporters not caring about the impeachment. He said Dean and maybe Kucinich are the "Bush is an idiot" candidate. No way! Everyone except for Lieberman are competing for the enormous "Bush is an idiot" vote.

And it's NOT the same as in 2000, as they're saying. Now the dems have PROOF he's an idiot, they have quotes and video and the consequences of his idiocy. Back then it was just speculation.

[in_cog_ni_to]

71. Tweety is OBSESSED with Clinton!

He always brings him up. How long has the man been out of office? Sheesh! Give it a rest, Tweety! :grr:

[Kayla]

82. Nah, Tweety is OBSESSED with sex

because the media told him it was what matters - NOT. And Clark told him what matters alright!!!

[BootinUp]

72. Clark can still get some

Bush is an idiot votes for sure. But then again don't underestimate the number of stupid Americans that don't have a clue whats going on, gone on. There are many many idiots that think chimpy is a hero. That is why Dean will have a hard time getting the final knock out.

[JNelson6563]

75. A nice love-fest thread

Can you imagine us Dean supporters being allowed the same?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=804726

Hell no!

Glad you got a taste of rejoicing in your candidate without actually having to have to set up camp elsewhere to avoid flames. I can only imagine, as a Dean supporter, what a luxury that must be.

Of course I suspect after the primaries I won't have to imagine anymore. ;-)

Julie

[DoveTurnedHawk]

76. Please Spare Us the Self-Pity, Julie

My Ignore list is already a mile long, filled with Dean supporters who do little but post snide comments in Clark threads. That few if any happened to find this thread is mere happenstance.

Oh, and here's a nice Dean celebratory thread for you, posted earlier today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=67261

Even the one "marginal" comment is not tearing Dean down, but pointing out that Bush can speak decent Spanish.

DTH

[JNelson6563]

97. Wow DTH, you surprise me

I should think you of all people might see that this thread is what DU should look like. All the time.

You know, a place where Democrats can come and talk about their politics without suffering attack all the time.

As for your ignore list (nevermind your snide remarks) DTH, do you think that Dean supporters are going to watch Dean be bashed all day long, put up with incredibly self-righteous remarks from the supporters who can't even praise their own candidates without bashing Dean--all in silence?

Hey, whatever, if you all approve of such, perhaps I am in the wrong place. At least until say, mid March or so...

Julie

On edit: DTH, if you want to impress me (not to mention everyone on this board--and I'll bet you do! Here's a thread search for ya, find me a thread where Dean supporters have discussed Dean without plenty of bashing. No, really, try it....just one.

[retyred]

83. It really "Was" great

Thank you for asking!


retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[Name removed]

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[Jerseycoa]

92. You'll get deleted for that

That's what they do.

[JNelson6563]

98. oooh.....

*gulp* Oh No!! Not your ignore list!!

Go threaten someone else. I couldn't care less what you think of me.

Ye who likes to dish it out but cannot take it....

Julie

[grasswire]

85. the panel was a bit glum later

Tweety replayed the bit about Cheeney and the bit about impeachment. Laura Ingraham expressed astonishment that Clark would want to go down "that" road, bringing up the VRWC. She muttered something about dragging in Molly Ivins, Joe Conason, Gene Lyons, Michael Moore.

Fineman thought that impeachment was a losing issue for Clark. O'Donnell said it resonates with the Dem base.

Ingraham was dour. Fineman was dour. O'Donnell didn't smile or sparkle.

[RafterMan]

88. If you missed it...

... you can find it online at

http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html

Enjoy!

[in_cog_ni_to]

90. The Clark interview on MSNBC will repeat at 10:00 P.M. Central Time

Just in case someone who missed it would like to watch. :)

[MidwestMomma]

93. Matthews said Clark was running a great campaign!

Is it just me, or does Tweety seem to have a soft spot for the General? Thought Clark did great tonight. I liked how when Tweety was trying to go on and on and on and on about Clinton that Clark kept stating what HIS campaign was about until Tweety gave up.

On a side note....listening to more Hardball. Tweety just criticized the administration, I swear. Am I in bizarro world?

[Bucky]

94. Well, we're quite the little Clark orgy tonight ain't we folks?

Go Wes!


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[eileen_d]

95. Kick for those that missed it

Thanks for the play-by-play, folks.

I like this Clark fellow!